Breaching area 51

Sorry, haven't any of you read the first post?

Why are you taking the time to tell someone they couldn't breach Area 51, when that is precisely what they've stated in the first place.

If the first post was edited after the original than please disregard what I say.

If not, then I'm afraid most of you have made complete fools of yourselves.

Imagine if I said I have an apple & then several people got on their high horses & said...

"No. You are wrong. You have an apple."

Read what it says, please, for goodness sake.

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
ARE YOU INSANE. Think about it, they will use deadly force to keep you away.

Agreed. I doubt you be fortunate enough to get hit with a rubber bullet. Think about it, your talking about a military BASE. Fort Knox is in the middle of a base. You wouldn't try to infiltrate knox, would you?

When they say lethal force authorised, they mean it.

People either dont know exactly what the base is like or just think its a cool idea.

[edit on 8-6-2008 by alienstar]

You could paint yourself brown, and move slowly, very slowly across the desert. Once inside the base, quickly wash off. Then just walk normally around the base, probably anyone working in the base would assume you were just another worker too if you are in there.

You cant move around slowly lol...there is motion sensors all over.Just walk around base?You dont have clearance u arent getting inside any place.You know a little card used to scan???

Originally posted by alienstar
You cant move around slowly lol...there is motion sensors all over.Just walk around base?You dont have clearance u arent getting inside any place.You know a little card used to scan???

Do you know this for a fact, have you ever been there and know there are cards used to scan? From what I've seen of Aerial photos of the base, it's quite open and lots of buildings are above ground.

That would be blatantly idiotic to just think you can cover yourself with brown paint to even come up with that idea.Then to think your going to spend 2 months crawling outside the base because you have at least 15 miles to cover from the road signs to the point of building.Then your either get caught up the motion dectors,the dogs,the helicopters or shot just for being stupid.And of all your going to just leisurely stroll in the base with no security clearance and like they wouldnt know you dont belong there?Ok your going to wash off the paint or mud right?What you gonna use there jet fuel you find?Yeah there is tons of portable outhouses!!Wow you do that,and come back on here and tell me your story.Nah youll be either locked up for this stunt or much worse shot by thier guards.

Originally posted by alienstar
That would be blatantly idiotic to just think you can cover yourself with brown paint to even come up with that idea.

Well it doesn't have to be brown paint, can just be brown clothing like army camo that they use in Iraq. Then just tan your face.

Originally posted by alienstar
Then to think your going to spend 2 months crawling outside the base because you have at least 15 miles to cover from the road signs to the point of building.

Hey I didn't say it would be easy, just that it would be possible.

Originally posted by alienstar
Then your either get caught up the motion dectors,the dogs,the helicopters or shot just for being stupid.

Since you've never been there do you have any evidence motion detectors, dogs, helicopters, or anything else are actually there waiting for you?

Originally posted by alienstar
And of all your going to just leisurely stroll in the base with no security clearance and like they wouldnt know you dont belong there?

One time I went into the teacher's lounge at my college and no one suspected a thing. The other professors thought I was a professor. I had a lanyard hanging from my neck, but it only had my driver's license in it, not a student/faculty ID, LOL. They didn't even bother looking at in in detail, they just saw it hanging from my neck and thought it was official.

Originally posted by alienstar
Ok your going to wash off the paint or mud right?What you gonna use there jet fuel you find?Yeah there is tons of portable outhouses!!

Carry a canteen with you and use that to wash off. See, sometimes the simplest solutions are right in front of your eyes.

I posted this in the last "Use a lot of people to crash the gates thread located HERE.

Just so you know, the mods decided it was attempted recruitment for illegal activities as well as discussion of illegal activities, both against the T&C's.


Headline, " Dozens Killed in Domestic Terrorist Attack"

Approximately 45 people were killed yesterday in what appears to be an attempt by domestic terrorists to overrun a top-secret military installation. Exact numbers were difficult to confirm due to military restrictions.
At approx. 7am yesterday, about 500 people attempted to invade a restricted military installation around the area of Groom Lake. Security personnel and sophisticated sensors detected them before they were in visual range, and moved to intercept them. After the terrorists repeatedly ignored orders to stop as well as several warning shots, security personnel at the base were forced to open fire on the mob, killing about 45 people and wounding about 120. The rest surrendered and are currently being transported to a military installation in Cuba for questioning.
The domestic terrorists were traced back to an internet discussion forum, AboveTopSecret, where it was discovered that site was used to recruit people into this terrorist organization. The site has been shut down and a complete list of its members was given to military officials. When the White House learned of this fact, the President immediately signed into law an emergency order that places huge restrictions and heavy regulations on the internet.
Many high-level govt officials are arguing that this is one more reason we need warrant-less searches and heavier government oversight on the civilian population.






.......Thats if it even makes the papers.........

Wow first i would never speak about trying to sneak in area 51,its just stupid.2 i cant stop others from doing so.3 i dont blame the mods here for thinking and enforcing if that happens.

The odds of infiltrating Area 51 successfully are close to zero. Instead of breaking in, wouldn't it be possible to camp out for a few nights or perhaps a week on the nearest mountain top with a powerful telescope? Why hasn't someone tried this? Do you think the base's security force would somehow realize that you are spying on their activities?

Lets say someone was caught outside of the base zooming in with a powerful telescope. Could you be arrested or have your telescope confiscated?

I know that there are some members on ATS who have camped out there before so I think it'd be a really amazing idea if next tiem they went they camped out with a telescope or something.

[edit on 9-6-2008 by Stonefree386]

reply to post by Stonefree386


People been camping out on the moutains for decades now.Once you could seen pretty close within 15 miles of base but the government purchased freedom ridge.Now they moved stuff to tikaboo peak,i think thats like 25 miles from base.You need a huge telescope to view properly.Its not illegal to view with optics outside the base or with a commerical satellite.Some of the new sat pics get close.

www.dreamlandresort.com...

[edit on 9-6-2008 by alienstar]

reply to post by Ihavenoidea


As a matter of fact, you all are over thinking this situation way too far. If one wants to get into a "secret place" they must first keep in mind, the best secrets are those out in the open. "Perhaps" The answers you seek are right in front of you. Be patient, if they wished to show you... then you would know. some things are beyond the comprehention or the mere human mind -those raised knowing nothing of the facility- No more needs to be said. Be cautious of what you seek.. you never know what you will find.

I flew over once on google earth . From that I figured it would be a real drag to walk/run in. I'd rather take a big red shiny and exciting horse and leave it at the entrance.

Originally posted by PokeyJoe
There is no possible way that anyone who is not supposed to be there can get in. Period. End of discussion.

Thank you very much, not just for revealing your authority on this forum, but for providing your valuable and in depth knowledge to this thread. We will now refer to you for approval on any and all events relating to top security bases.

Wow, first off from the closest entry point it is still almost 3-5 miles to anything of interest. If you are that fast then you already know what is inside there. How easy would it be for a couple of moderately trained snipers to pick off all 100 runners? Not to mention that anything that can be thought up for a breach has already been planed for. Trying to sneak onto a military controlled base is pointless and very very deadly.

Seriously though, I know these threads are easy to ignore (I have done that successfully whilst bitting my lip), but repeated beyond extinction threads of the same pathetic magnitude should surely be placed in BTS - there is nothing here but a conglomerate of kiddies, instead of building action man figures or learning to play soccer (the USA suck at soccer) when school is out, are in fact discussing something that is highly illegal - (edit)

Come on folks - I will tell you what will happen to your grand plans:

Dragonfly machine / bird with camera - shot down
Remote controlled vehicle - shot down
Remote viewing - shot down (or unable to pass the electromagnetic field) - or shot down
Masses of people charging the fields - shot down
Car with genius driver / controller / robot - shot down
Pigeons with camera (covered under birds) - shot down again
Space ship designed by kids - shot down

Then where would your parents be - a son zapped by a lazer outside of Area 51. A son so silly that his only quest in life was ...

They have lazers??? Can I play???

Seriously, come on folks ... enjoy life, don't plan coup d'etat's with your own protection force.

My bad.

Breifne

[edit on 27-6-2008 by Breifne]

reply to post by Breifne


I went into Area51. You should see the base McDonalds underground. Incredible fries. Cooked with nuclear power. No wait...thats how you get in...through the McDonalds DELIVERY TRUCK!! (slaps forehead) Why didnt I think of this EARLIER????!!

reply to post by NightVision


Area 51 drive through - wow.

Yeh, mines an alien shake, lear burger and lazar fries.

I could make a fortune with than concept.

Your still not getting in though.

Breifne.

I won’t say how i know this, because nobody will believe me..... but trust me.... I can say the following:

1) From either entrance from 375 it takes approx 15-20 min to get to the 1st checkpoint. So they know you're coming many at least 10 min. before you get there. (ive driven on the road many times. Not going to say why. But you cannot drive 100 MPH on these roads. Even though they are very good as far as gravel roads go)
2) as you are driving up the roads to the 1st checkpoints, long range cameras scan the vehicle for heat signatures, and get a “body count” of how many occupants are in the vehicle. Its not always possible at this range to get license plate data. But sometimes they try. All data is liked to all base security. They also have long range microphones which is used to hear conversations of campers and hikers. However it is not used for vehicles (for obvious reasons as the sound of gravel makes it difficult to hear conversations) although Checkpoints uses it as the vehicle approaches the security areas. I was told that the microphones can travel up to 10 miles through desert as there is not a great deal of ambient noise. (other than wind hitting objects on the ground)
3) The 1st checkpoint is in charge of performing the following tasks: they confirm the vehicle information (such as license plate, and how many occupants are in the vehicle. Also they check the vehicle for any items such as weapons, and electronic devices) if the guest passes 1st checkpoint, they are granted access to checkpoint 2
4) Once they pass checkpoint #1, data is sent to all security. Radio communication between checkpoint 1 and checkpoint 2 is noted.
5) Checkpoint 2 starts its procedure for incoming “guest”--- many checks are preformed here. At the 10 min mark, the checkpoint watches for the vehicle. If at the 15 min mark, no vehicle has been deteched at the 2nd checkpoint, a high alert is noted. But this normally never happens, as the video cameras and road sensors detect the vehicle speed. If the vehicle stops between checkpoint 1 and 2, an alert sounds to all 3 checkpoints noting that the vehicle has stopped.
6) Checkpoint 3 is close to the base.
7) The idea of "lock down" does not happen. The base commander and heads of security see people "camping out" and walking around on public land near the base all the time. They have radar and can track thermal body signatures many miles away. They also have long range video (used to track vehicles)
The base is so secure, they don’t need to do "lock down".... because nobody has ever been close enough to see anything. Most of the testing is done at night.

8) they don’t use rubber bullets and water cannons. If you breach the "invisible" fence in the desert, you will get arrested.

9) if you try to storm the gate like an idiot, they will either arrest you, or if they deem you a threat, they will shoot you. Anybody who is out there knows why they are there. You cannot "accidently" drive past any security checkpoint. they make it obvious this is not a good idea. If you chose to “run” the gate with a vehicle, not only could you be shot by checkpoint #1, but before you physically got from the checkpoint 1 to #2, the base would have dispatched a Blackhawk. And at that point, you would not be a happy “camper”