Was This A Message From Extraterrestrials??

It looks slightly different yes excuse me. The chances of somebody knowing about this image sending across the universe and playing along with it just to keep the scent going seems too likely.

If I were part of an alien race I would much rather just communicate to certain beings which have my royal bloodline or much less have what they call "extra terrestrial origin."

reply to post by 12.21.12


Have you posted in the correct thread?

What was that a reply to?

Is 'cryptic' your middle name?

Thanks awfully!

Now Mike.....

Here is a legit concern I have regarding this being man made or not.

I have highlighted areas where I feel this was done by the old rope and board method.

Sorry if it came out like crap(I am on a laptop right now)




That, and the whole thing isn't very square.

I want to believe but this is strong evidence for me to believe otherwise.

The only catch is the encoded message

If they were smart enough to code a crop circle, then why not make the formation square and perfect?

Forgive me if someone has already answered this.

Could it be as simple as upon our message we depicted from which type of device we sent the initial message. Therefore upon their reply they send it to a similar device however their method of messaging is different from ours ie we read it upon a screen or as radio freqencies and they read messages as pictures.

To reply to our message they simply sent a picture back to a similar "Message Sender" that we broadcast from to say "Hey we heard ya"

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Well what do we know about extraterrestial thinking?
The possiblities are, that whoever makes these circles might just be playing with us.

This is all about us being in unchartered territory, we go as we learn the terrain, so to speak.
And it might get, interesting, dangerous, funny and more or less crazy as we go....

Going to have to agree with Imadamnalien...

The corners on it aren't very square, and the middle of the DNA strand isn't symmetrical either...




You would think that this response would be PERFECT if it were from beings that have the technology to not only get to our planet, but to burn images into a crop field.

That being said I do believe some of the LESS extravagant ones ARE real... The ones that have more scientific anomolies....

Originally posted by mikesingh
I tried looking for an electromagnetic connection to this one but haven't found it so far. But here is another which means that it's quite possible that there may be a link. I wonder if any tests were conducted?

Has this magnetic anomaly been formed by pranksters too?
Courtesy: Colin Andrews.

Now thats fascinating!

They recorded a magnetic field fluctuation in a crop field?

That is pretty hardcore evidence right there!

Now seriously, how the heck can a group of hoaxers manipulate a magnetic field?

WOW!

Edit to add:
Also notice the crop circles center ring....The tractors tire tracks are moved to form a completely perfect circle in the middle of the two lanes. You would need help from the farmer to do this....Also why would a farmer destroy his own crop?

I bet this one is aligned to magnetic north, notice how the circles off to the side of the formation aren't lined up with the tractor marks.



[edit on 10-3-2008 by IMAdamnALIEN]

Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by samureyed
Would it be possible for someone to post a few samples of the BEST known man made crop circles so I can see what humans are actually capable of doing with a board and a wire? I have never seen some of the ones posted and it really got my blood flowing.

Hi samureyed! There are a number of sites you could google for complete albums on CCs.

But what you'd probably be more interested in is complex 3D CCs. Here's where the fun really begins. Because it's near impossible for a bunch of school kids to have made these with a shaded torch, a couple of ropes and a few wooden boards! Here's one which resembles a hall way with open doors on the sides!

Cheers!

[edit on 10-3-2008 by mikesingh]

Being an artist myself, well now a tattoo artist, I can tell you that this picture is not as hard to make as it appears. Also jumping to the conclusion that it was just a "bunch of kids" , we have no facts on that.

This was probably done by a bunch od semi skilled artists, first laid out on paper. Measure, then scaled up for the actual circle. Then it's all just done with a length of thin rope to make the circle,other measuring devices (I've never made a crop circle so I don't know how indepth they go with thier tools), but again to the layperson, this above Circle seems extremely hard to produce. Though from an artists p.o.v. It's not very hard at all.

Going back to the original subject though, it is very interesting, but I just don't think any crop circle was genuinely made by an alien, even the most amazingly precise ones. They hold tournaments, and the stuff pro's make will blow your mind.

Not to mention the fact the supposed "reply isn't even close to being square, to me, that most likely happened because these guys were very smart in thier specific fields, as to create the response, but they weren't artists, and most likely only did a few practice circles before putting this out there.

The one prior to that that is supposed to represent the Alien Radio Telescope that recieved then sent the current message was most likely done by artists.

I don't think security around this facility would be that tight, I doubt they can even see 200 yards into the crop, without night vision.

But the biggest Reason I don't think this reply came from Aliens is:

I think they would have just used the transmitter that recieved our message, and sent it back that way. It would be much easier. I just can't see an advanced civilization traveling all those light years to get here just to create an image in a crop field. It makes no sense to me. If they are worried the masses won't get the message if they send it back with the trasmitter, well I'm sure they can think of some more intelligent ways to make sure the entire worlds population recieves the message, and knows it came from aliens. Maybe land some ships in front of the Eiffel tower, White House, Parliment, Giza Plateau and the like, come out, give a wave or two, and then take off again, and leave behind a bunch of replies to our pictorial made on some metal plated squares ect.

But again as usual MikeS, an interesting thread, I had no idea about this message transmitted into space. I was aware of the Golden Record, and Plate sent on Voyager but not this, so the thread definitely deserves a star from me, but as far as the response in the form of a crop Circle, I'd have to save no on that, that it was just a very well thought out hoax.

This is old news albeit very important and significant.

If you have a high speed connection (and a little patience) here's a nice recap of the Chilbolton Event I put together for you guys and gals...

It is a large movie file (65MB) to show details so if you have a slow connection, don't bother trying as you'll be waiting all day!
There is also a link to another movie about the Sri Yantra Enigma that occurred in Oregon in 1990 which you may find interesting as well.

Peace,
~Jammer

I find it rather amusing... wait, let me re-think that -- actually I find it rather unfortunate that so many of you here have been sucked into believing that even some of these landscape pictographs are anything other than man-made artistic expressions albeit, eloquent ones where some, without a doubt, are truly beautiful!

But having said this, there's no doubt what-so-ever in my mind that many of the most impressive pictographs were intentionally created by covert agencies whereby facilitating a "crop" of crop circle artists, at any given time, to follow suit by keeping within the same 'theme' at any given time first initiated by those covert agencies via advanced aerial tech.

So what's the message here?
There is no message because it was only just an experiment with 'advanced technology' on the part of those covert agencies who CUSTOM targeted those messages to fit the latest fad within the latest "New Age" "fad" during the 80's and 90's. Here are the theme's that would show up .. and here is the order from 1st to last:
Sacred Geometry
The genetic code
Electrical circuit symbols (generic even!! lol)
Mathematical constants -- duh.. fractals
Ancient symbols from ancient civilizations... yep, you guessed it -- Mayan!!

You see a pattern here? It's all about Denying Ignorance. Crop Circles are a case in point. Sorry.


[edit on 10-3-2008 by Palasheea]

Originally posted by DancedWithWolves

The code may read: "Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEVE. There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION. [ACK]" [ACK] = request acknowledgment

(Original image copyright 2002: Crop Circle Connection).

I had seen this image before but I did not see the code/message.

Call me crazy if you like, the above one is very interesting for me:

Recently I had a mediation where Spirit showed me a place where I was being offered gifts from a person. I saw myself sitting there looking at the gifts and refusing everyone for reasons. Ethical reasons, for eg: 'how can you offer me a planet, doesn't that belong to everyone?'...

I had had another meditation a short time before where I saw that I had 5 gifts. A necklace (made from rarest crystal), a gold 'slinky' chain that went around my wrist, (it would play like a harp if touched), a rod, a crown and a sword. (they were amazing gifts - not from this world)

I saw the spirit show me that 'a ghost' had taken the gifts from me and the strange thing I thought after was perhaps they were giving gifts that they did not own.

In the second meditation, the 'ghost' offered the gifts back to me, BUT because I wasn't sure if gifts belonged to him, I didn't accept them.

Very strange meditation BUT to see this crop circle has confirmed what I saw.

So, this is quite profound this message, well for me it is anyway.

thanks for posting, great thread



oh and the second line about 'good being out there' is also very timely.

On my meditative travels, I see so much corruption and I remember after one meditation, I came out quite disappointed and thought, is there any good out there?

so yes, I believe this is a message. Maybe it is interpreted differently for each individual.

[edit on 10-3-2008 by Thurisaz]

reply to post by IMAdamnALIENreply to post by noslenwerd


The lines at the edges and the centre not being straight is, I believe an optical illusion. I believe the edges and the centre 'DNA' lines are straight but the warping is caused by two factors...

1... The land is not entirely flat and has slight undulations to it.

2... The original photograph was not taken directly overhead and the perspective has been corrected in Photoshop or similar to give the appearance of being taken overhead.

These two things taken together will make straight lines look wavy or skewed. This image below has totally straight lines on a slightly warped surface. When the angle and perspective is corrected, the lines do not appear straight.

mikey mate you are a paragon of ufology!!

This thread is incredible to me because it is undeniably proof of one of two things:

1. That aliens exist.

2. That humans have extaordinary artistic capability and will go through incredible lengths to research, plan and execute a hoax.

Either possibility is equally interesting!

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What about the apparent track marks left by the devices used to flatten the wheat?

I understand the straight lines being augmented due to the fact it wasn't an overhead shot.

It still looks man made and sloppy in my humble opinion.

Thanks for the reply and the visual.

reply to post by Thurisaz


Thank you for sharing your experience. We must take heed of these types of insights. I found the deciphering of the "cd" in the crop circle quite disturbing as well. I'm glad you turned them down.

The following relates to the OP

I've been stuck on one point I read earlier today while searching information on the Chilbolton Code. One of the reasons SETI gives to dismiss the crop circle is:

"The biochemistry information in the crop circle is the same as the Arecibo message, although the DNA seems to have an extra strand and a somewhat different number of nucleotides. It has also been noted that silicon is now indicated as part of the biological construction kit, although this element, while popular in science fiction, is rather poor at making the complex molecules required for life....

I don't believe we have discussed yet the addition of silicon in the reply code. The response to this dismissal by SETI which I read was illuminating and fascinating. I believe it deserves consideration. The following information regarding Silicon is one of those things that makes you go mmmmm....


Chilbolton Code

There is something about Silicon that is being conveyed in this message. It is not clear at all that Silicon must play a role in the DNA. But it is clear that it plays some important role. Dr. William Levengood, who has pioneered the biochemical assessment techniques that differentiate real crop formations from hoaxes, has found anomalous deposits of Silicon, silicone, and silicates in real crop formations. In one such formation, a layer of extremely pure,
micro-crystalline white silicon was found in an 8"-wide layer 4" under all the affected plants, with no visible soil disturbance to show how the presumed hoaxers put it there. The Silicon was of a purity and crystalline structure that was never seen before. Furthermore, plants that grew in soil containing this white powdery Silicon displayed a 300% to 400% growth in biomass, compared to control plants. The seeds taken from plants that grew in the real formations looked fine, but showed a 40% decrease in seed weight and were dry inside. But, when planted, they germinated and grew tremendously fast, with a deep, lush green color and robust health, compared to control plants.

Mineralogist Sampath Iyengar, a 30-year specialist in clay mineralogy at California's Technology of Materials Laboratory, used X-ray diffraction and a scanning electron microscope to examine specific heat-sensitive clay minerals such as Silicon from crop-formation soils. He discovered a 95%-statistically significant increase in the degree of crystallinity in the circle soils. "I was shocked," he said. "These changes are normally found in sediments buried for thousands and thousands of years under rocks, affected by heat and pressure, and not in surface soils."

The best-known expert in the world on X-ray diffraction analysis of clay minerals is Dr. Robert C. Reynolds Jr., former president of the Clay Minerals Society and emeritus professor of geology and mineralogy at Dartmouth College. He concluded that the intense heat required for the observed changes in crystallinity "would have incinerated any plant material present. In short, I believe that our present knowledge provides no explanation." In fact, a recent study published by a team of scientists and funded by Laurance Rockefeller concludes "it is possible that we are observing the effects of a new or as yet undiscovered energy source."

Blanche McLanahan, whose late husband was researching Silicon biology when he died in 1994, believes that the Visitors may be telling us how to absorb energy from light. In human blood the heme, or iron-based porphyrin, is surrounded by four Nitrogen atoms. "If Silicon replaces the Iron atom," she reports, "it prevents the ferric domain in the Iron atom's m-shell from storing energy. The Silicon would allow our bodies to use the energy of the sun through the principles of photosynthesis, absorbing energy through the cutaneous membrane directly into the blood through the Chloride shift in the capillaries."

Thats one of the weirdest crop formations I've seen yet. right up there with the Mandelbrot. Good job as usual mikesingh

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
mikey mate you are a paragon of ufology!!

This thread is incredible to me because it is undeniably proof of one of two things:

1. That aliens exist.

2. That humans have extaordinary artistic capability and will go through incredible lengths to research, plan and execute a hoax.

Either possibility is equally interesting!

Here's mine:

1) Government covert black projects DO exist.
2) The most "impressive" landscape pictographs were created by covert governmental black project agencies where they then "commissioned", at least indirectly, landscape artists to create additional pictographs after that whereby keeping within what ever "theme" was being used at any given time by those covert agencies.

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Yep, I'm gonna stick with man made too. The only thing that could convince me otherwise would be if the DNA information in the reply was actually feasable.

reply to post by DancedWithWolves


And then this post cropped (pun intended) up. Right on time, Nice one!

I don't think that that was an extraterrestrial message, one of the reasons being that I never saw a crop circle that I did not thought that could be done by humans.

The fact that most people are not capable of doing it does not mean that nobody is.

Also, I think if any extraterrestrial life form with a sufficient technological knowledge would receive that signal they would not go to a different country from where the message was sent to make a clumsy drawing in a field that may have not been noticed.

But if any aliens received that message I wonder what they will answer after the next one...

If you had the chance to send a message into space, what would it be? People in the UK have an opportunity to get their Doritos-sponsored message sent to 47 Ursae Majoris, which is believed to be supporting living organisms – 42 light years away from Earth.

The space commercial is part of Doritos’ “You Make It, We Play It” user-generated-content campaign in the UK. People are being asked to be creative and shoot a 30 second video ad about what they perceive life on earth to be.

The winning ad will lift off into space on June 12 from a 500 MHz Ultra High Frequency Radar from the EISCAT Space Centre in Svalbard, which lies in the Arctic Ocean about midway between northern Norway and the North Pole. The target is a planetary systems surrounding 47 UMa (Ursae Majoris), a star which is believed “to host a habitable zone that could potentially harbor small terrestrial planets and support life as we know it,” researchers from the University of Leicester said.

Source.

Edit: I forgot to say that I did not read the whole thread (I don't have the time for it) so I don't know if someone had already talked about this next message to space.

[edit on 10/3/2008 by ArMaP]

What is really strange is that I have been thinking about this exact topic for a few days. I haven't been on in a week, and though I would do a search once I caught up on old business. And here the thread is.

Kinda creepy on my end. But maybe creepy good...

It proves to me at least a bit more that some sort of nexus is approaching and that humankind is becoming more 'in tune'.

Great Minds?
DocMoreau