There are no Aliens visiting this Earth

A yes an analytical view to cross examine the witnesses of Visitors within ones own moment of time. I have seen much in my state, and I have seen much out of my state that computes just on a different level of accuracy then what is sought.

I know I am a Visitor do you?

Are you an alienated Human or a alienated extraterrestrial?

Or are you just an (energy source) waiting to dive into the next pool of energy or galaxy out there.

I am a (innerbeing) and A (outerbeing). I live inside and outside of this energybeing/earth. But I am whole. Physical and non physical laws.
enjoy.

Originally posted by MrPenny
slightly tolerated foe

You really have a tough time with that respected part, don't ye?

Alas, overeasy may have my number! Jamie Moosing says that..nay, dares anyone to go down to that tree and check for electrogiggical fields. They will find that the reading on their giggical box is just as strong today as it was last week and you can take that to the bank (props to Baretta). In fact, my friend Jamie says there's a winder to the other dimension where the alien beins are.

Just the other day after teaching my psychology class at the University, we saw big UFO's.

[edit on 14-3-2008 by jbondo]

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Okay, I'll respect you now...cause it's late. In the morning though....you know how it is.

I can't even spell electrogiggical.....or can I?

Well, whatever.....Messrs Maussan (sic), et al....they've seen some big'uns....yup....probably told some too.

Originally posted by indierockalien
matter of fact, if there WAS ever a movie made about my experiences, it would go something like this:

"Whoa, that was weird."

THE END

Excellent summary of a 'paranormal' experience.

I understand some people are getting into their years and have had no experience... I wish I could pat them on the back and say it's ok. But never the less, some of us have seen things that constitute a standard UFO or 'E.T.' sighting.

Is it our duty to prove it to people who want neither to believe, nor to investigate the matter? No... we are just normal people who see weird things.

If you ask me, the angry 'show me everything, I demand proof' types are pseudo-skeptics who are sore about never having seen anything with their own eyes.

Again, I wish I could pat them on the back... but I can't.

I am a ray of sunshine dying in the gray. This should prove that I am an alienated human. Actually, I am neither. I am just a human who admits that we are not alone when it comes to intelligent life in the universe. Much like those who are christian with the evidence for God, I cannot prove the existence of aliens. I have faith that it is so and derive my satisfaction from that alone. And much like those who say that they have had visions of God, I have faih that not all those that claim that they have had close encounters of the third kind are hallucinating or strung out on substances. They are not all crackpots with an axe to grind. It all rests on faith.

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All joking aside Wally, you make a good point...after all, you are lemony fresh!

Suffice it to say we can't ignore the overwhelming odds on the possibilities out there. As far as aliens visiting, now that's not so cut and dried. It always all comes back to that realization.

The problem with comparing Christian Faith to belief in alien visitation is simple; Jesus walked the earth and that is fact. Now I'm not claiming that aliens never set foot here, I'm just trying to inject some logical perspective.

aliens do not exist. they are just a hype of science fiction and mythology for everyone to believe. just like big foot.

Originally posted by Wally ConleyI am just a human who admits that we are not alone when it comes to intelligent life in the universe. Much like those who are christian with the evidence for God, I cannot prove the existence of aliens. I have faith that it is so and derive my satisfaction from that alone.

One way to look at your comments is as a 'claim of the paranormal'. Substitute something for 'aliens' that does not hold a "special" significance to you and see how you react.

For instance 'I admit that there are intelligent hamburger people somewhere in the Universe'. Now it sounds vaguely ridiculous - 'who cares?'. And, yet, it's not impossible that this is true.

But back to 'aliens'. What if those aliens are SO different from you and me that we just can't relate to them, or are so repulsed by them that we don't want to interact.

What looks like a 'fun' thing (existence of aliens) could be really boring or irrelevant.

What you might -really- be saying and thinking (and there's nothing wrong with it) is 'I admit there are [really cool, human-looking, or smart, or 'saviors of Earth'] aliens in the Universe [...and I just know they'll come here]

Truth is, they might never come here, might never be able to come here.

Now we're back at the 'so what?' part.

With all the speculative fiction, like the Star Wars sage, and Star Gate stuff in the media, we end up fantasizing. That speculation is always going to have a element of 'fun and interesting' because it's derived in part from TV. Now TV shows are not going to be shown if they aren't attractive on some level - even crappy sci-fi has compelling elements.

And much like those who say that they have had visions of God, I have faih that not all those that claim that they have had close encounters of the third kind are hallucinating or strung out on substances. They are not all crackpots with an axe to grind. It all rests on faith.

Here you're pigeon-holing the possible motives of everyone who has made 'claims of the paranormal'.

There are other 'motives' and 'reasons' that are possibly happening during 'so-called' alien encounters. Many of these reasons could be illusitory, wrong, lies, mis-identifications.

They may not be alien, but just 'mistakes'. Eyewitnesses make mistakes under bad conditions.

What does all this mean? What is my point?

Well, first it's human and fun to speculate. But I'd suggest it's prudent to be cautious about things that may turn out to be a waste of time. Spread your interests between the speculative and the real.

2 cents.

The whole "alien agenda" is a massive government propaganda hoax, designed to cover up the fact that we have incredibly advanced weaponry on the higher levels of government, and also to lead people into the fantasy land of the New Age religion.

All of the main people who have promoted the aliens on earth concept have been high Freemasons and CIA agents: Art Bell, Whitley Strieber, Michael Tsarion, etc.

Also, in the Club of Rome's book, "the First Global Revolution", they speak openly about staging a fake alien invasion as a means to get a global government put together. They have decided to use global warming instead.

Here is some information on the Outlaw Forum about this subject:

www.outlawjournalism.com...

It is widely discussed there, on a bunch of other threads I can't find right now.

(Outlaw is my "home base" forum. Not trying to plug it, it is just where most of my posts reside.)

By the law of averages, shouldn't someone on these boards be an abductee? Anyone out there with a personal insight into this question?

And in saying that, I'm guessing we'd have heard from them by now, but even so .....

Originally posted by tymertz
aliens do not exist. they are just a hype of science fiction and mythology for everyone to believe. just like big foot.

Yeah and this is exactly the same lazy-ass statements made by the OP.... for which I planted a comment that got 5x more star approval...

Bigfoot was made up by science fiction and mythology? That's funny. Last I checked there was no 'science fiction' in the North Americas 300 years ago. Last I checked, 'mythology' did not include thousands of sightings from normal people across all continents. The same thing applies to UFO's... 'science fiction' wasn't even around when UFO's were first recorded.

No, if you ask me, skeptics are simply lazy individuals who spew forth the most trite and un-imaginative explanations possible.

[edit on 21-3-2008 by NewWorldOver]

Originally posted by NewWorldOver
for which I planted a comment that got 5x more star approval...

Big whoopee.....I've seen some incredibly dense posts get stars. For instance, I just starred your above post.....despite what I think about it. Tends to make the "star" system a bit less elitist, don't you think?

And general protocol on ATS is not to crow about such things.

That's funny. Last I checked there was no 'science fiction' in the North Americas 300 years ago.

Of course there was.....it was just different "science". Examples of what we call "comedy", "drama", "science fiction", "romance", et al....can be found across all human existence. It's "close-minded" to not realize that.

No, if you ask me, skeptics are simply lazy individuals who spew forth the most trite and un-imaginative explanations possible.

Good thing we didn't ask you.

[edit on 21-3-2008 by MrPenny]

[edit on 21-3-2008 by MrPenny]

Originally posted by NewWorldOver

No, if you ask me, skeptics are simply lazy individuals who spew forth the most trite and un-imaginative explanations possible.

Good thing we didn't ask you.

[edit on 21-3-2008 by MrPenny]

[edit on 21-3-2008 by MrPenny]

I disagree (with New World Over). Skeptics are there to punch holes in a theory. It's kind of like peer review. It keeps the science a little cleaner. Now there is a big difference between skeptics and those who would choose to deny based on belief rather than evidence. But then again the whole point of the thread is to show proof...

But I personally love skeptics. They want to prove you wrong and so let it happen. I want to throw things out there and say "here you go- you do the work and dismantle this theory".

Perhaps Croatia is so boring, that even Aliens won't bother to visit or abduct people there. it could be jealousy

Originally posted by neformore
A wise person once said...

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absense.

I think that wise person was tgidkp, a few pages ago when he said, and I quote, "Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence.
Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence.
Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence.
Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence."

It's profound, isn't it?

Good God! is this still going on?

I thought it had burned itself by the time I read up to Page 8.

There can only ever be opinions on this issue at this stage. None of us has the answer one way or the other. If one of us did definitively know how to prove the existence or non-existence of extra-terrestrial intelligent life forms, we wouldn't keep it a secret. Until the day we know for sure, it can only ever be speculation and there is nothing whatever wrong with speculation.

Let me speculate what I want to speculate, you can do likewise and between us we'll still be wrong about the details.

So you say no aliens visit earth. I say could be you're right, could be you're wrong. Your intransigence affects you more than it does me and is indicative of one type of defense mechanism while my openness is merely indicative of another. Nothing more. Big deal.

[edit on 25/3/08 by hidatsa]

There is absolutely no evidence for aliens visiting Earth. None at all. Zero.

That, of course, doesn't mean they haven't visited us, it just means there's no evidence they have.

That's as far as this dicussion can go, without turning into an "opinion-off" with various folks shouting about abductions and cave-paintings of aliens.

Why would an alien be walking on this barbaric planet in the first place, its dangerous enough being in a vehicle + i would give it two minutes on this surface before someone tried to turn it into a trophy

[edit on 26-4-2008 by ToolFanMael]

Originally posted by Breadfan
My proof is better then yours. I have no alien for you to show. Therefore, I claim, there are no aliens visiting this Earth.

If you claim they are, show me one, or better, take a picture with your cellphone with one of them and mail it to me.

Breadfan:

Well... just because you're not satisfied with current research, or convinced of alien's existence doesn't necessarily mean that they don't exist. It could mean that you are in denial... however I also think that if you truly DIDN'T believe or was at least curious about it... you wouldn't waste you're time in here trying to get other people to convince you of something you claim to be already sure of.

I admire your unwillingness to blindly believe and to cling onto the comfortable denial!! ignorance is truly bliss.... I have no negativitiy towards you.. so I apologize if you take offence to this... although you must expect replies like this because of where you're posting