Iran Nuke Laptop Data Came from Mossad?

Originally posted by Trance Optic
has this computer been properly interviewed lol.

Oh, you mean the one the White House keeps classified? Not hardly- hey, that's "need to know" basis stuff. And Iran doesn't "need to know". :shk:

Now Now...

Those nice boys would never do such a thing!

I mean start a War based on deception?

NEVER!

They have God on their SIDE!!.. Why do you love Hitler? And - (Insert any other A typical attack upon anyone who ever questions the actions of the Israeli government and military!)

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All I can say is thank goodness that we have the INTERNET... If it was not for the Internet we would be at WAR with Iran already...

Think of how many "Gulf of Tonkin" events have happened already... that the internet squashed before they ever got off the ground...

My count is 4...

reply to post by SavageHenry




lol, I think it's more like "Mossad caught red handed."

Something about boys, toys, ploys comes to.... oh never mind.

Forgive me for not trusting laptop stealers. Must be in my tin foil nature.

Seriously though, anyone have anything more to say about the article in OP, as opposed to settling for what is again being sold to you as truth?

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


Hahaha beautiful, thanks!
You made my day

www.nytimes.com...

While American and energy agency officials say the documents appear real, they cannot definitively authenticate them or tie them to Iran.

Gee, I wonder why that might be? Maybe because instead they CAN tie them to Mossad?

Another curious issue is:

If the data in the computer has been declassified, WHY won't they STILL release it publicly???

With the Iran debate losing steam, the Bush administration allowed the atomic energy agency to present to a wide array of diplomats some of the intelligence that the United States had obtained — including from the 2004 laptop. (While the data has been declassified, the Bush administration has refused requests to make it public.)

And from www.washingtonpost.com...

U.S. intelligence considers the laptop documents authentic but cannot prove it. Analysts cannot completely rule out the possibility that internal opponents of the Iranian leadership could have forged them to implicate the government, or that the documents were planted by Tehran itself to convince the West that its program remains at an immature stage.

CIA analysts, some of whom had been involved only a year earlier on the flawed assessments of Iraq's weapons programs, initially speculated that a third country, such as Israel, may have fabricated the evidence. But they eventually discounted that theory.

Oh, really? Gee, maybe this could be part of the very "rogue" sinister element that so many people speak of as existing in the CIA, Mossad, and other spy agencies like the Pakistani ISI? Of COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO DISCOUNT THAT THEORY!

This from the very same people that, as noted in one of the Haaretz links in OP:

Risen included this information in his book, "State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration," which was published in 2006. In the book, he discusses a number of ideas which he says were thought up jointly by CIA and Mossad operatives to sabotage Iran's nuclear capabilities.

One of these ideas was to build electromagnetic devices, smuggling them inside Iran to sabotage electricity lines leading to the country's central nuclear sites. According to the plan, the operation was supposed to cause a series of chain reactions which would damage extremely powerful short circuits in the electrical supply that would have led to failures of the super computers of Iran's nuclear sites.

According to the book, the Mossad planners proposed that they would be responsible for getting the electromagnetic facilities into Iran with the aid of their agents in Iran. However, a series of technical problems prevented the plan's execution.

Oh, but no, Iran has been caught red handed have they? Yeah uh huh.

From www.moonofalabama.org...

The Iranian Laptop - Again

Two years ago we took a look at The Laptop:

It is the overwhelming proof that Iran has nuclear weapons, ehh - might have nuclear weapons, hmm - could have nuclear weapons - or not.

The Laptop of Death, as emptywheel aptly named it, is supposed to have somehow come out of Iran and to contain thousands of pages of technical documentation of Iranian military nuclear programs. Reportedly the one word not included in this treasure trove of documents is 'nuclear'.

The Laptop's content is likely as genuine as the Niger papers about Saddam's Uranium purchases. Despite several requests, the U.S. has never provided the 'evidence' from The Laptop to the IAEA.

But now it has changed its mind:

Shared in the past two weeks was material on a laptop computer reportedly smuggled out of Iran, said another diplomat, accredited to the IAEA. In 2005, U.S. intelligence assessed that information as indicating that Tehran had been working on details of nuclear weapons, including missile trajectories and ideal altitudes for exploding warheads.

He said that after declassification, U.S. intelligence also was forwarded on two other issues — the "Green Salt Project" — a plan the U.S. alleges links diverse components of a nuclear weapons program, including uranium enrichment, high explosives testing and a missile re-entry vehicle, and material in Iran's possession showing how to mold uranium metal into warhead form.

It is obvious why the U.S. is now sharing the (dis-)information. The IAEA and Iran have an agreement (pdf) that lists all open questions the IAEA has and a timetable to answer these. The last open question to be answered is about traces of highly enriched Uranium found in a Iranian lab. Two days ago it was reported that this last issue has been resolved.

Despite thousands of hours on the ground in Iran, the IAEA has found no evidence that Iran ever had a military nuclear program. But in preparation of regime change the U.S. wants further sanctions on Iran and now selectively releases some of the very dubious stuff from The Laptop.

What this smelling to me like is another desperate attempt of the Bush administration to sell the American people and the world a manufactured cause to at least attack, if not invade, Iran and its nuclear facilities- all at the behest of an Israel feeling the squeeze of small land mass and being surrounded by people that absolutely hate them and want them OUT of there.

Isn't there a piece of Alaska somewhere we could give them? Hell, freezing your cajones off is better than freezing in hell after all hell breaks loose over there and the middle east becomes a sheet of glass.

[edit on 8-3-2008 by TrueAmerican]

you now what,i think we should just let them have the war they want,its the only way theyl learn.they think their gods,they can do no wrong,well an invasion of iran will make iraq look like childsplay and they will loose even more support,1930 approval ratings?,well after iran it will be freakin 3000 bc.let them shoot themselves in the foot,why not?,give them everything they want and let them **** everything up so they will never get in power again.

reply to post by welivefortheson


Ok, well I appreciate the generalized comments, but at this point this thread has seen plenty of those. What I am after now is specific targeted comments on portions of these links and stories that establish either proof or failure of the validity of the information on the laptop. Hate to sound picky, don't mean it that way, but come on. Let's get serious and pick that highly questionable laptop data story apart! Google is your friend- or at least it used to be... We need to use it more and bring more specific content into the thread please. I am trying. Please help.

So now we are taking very old evidence and using it to deny the claims of the new evidence made by the U.N. weapons inspector not Bush, Israel or any other nation? Who do you work for? Remember we here at ATS are here to deny ignorance. You post something that is four years old to try to discredit the U.N.s own inspectors evidence that is new and left everyone who has seen it shell shocked to further your hopeless cause. Simply you are doing the very thing that you accuse Bush and Israel of doing. This is old news and far from Breaking and it should have never been allowed to be posted in that way.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


RegimeChangeIran was looking to purchase a new laptop back in 2005.

Since our call for help, we have received just over $1,300 and are closing in on the $2000 needed to purchase a new laptop with the warranties needed to keep this work humming. So we are getting closer to our goal and hope to make a purchase soon. Please be patient.

A Daily Briefing On Iran : Laptop Update

One wonders if they ever got it?

Maybe MEK can help out them out...