Iran Nuke Laptop Data Came from Mossad?

The 'laptop of mass destruction'

www.atimes.com

But those documents have also been regarded with great suspicion by US and foreign analysts. German officials identified the source of the laptop documents in November 2004 as the Mujahideen e-Khalq (MEK), which along with its political arm, the National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI), is listed by the US
State Department as a terrorist organization.

There are some indications, moreover, that the MEK obtained the documents not from an Iranian source but from Israel's Mossad.

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[edit on 7-3-2008 by TrueAmerican]

While the warmongers at ATS are ready to pounce on anything that will further their cause for ANOTHER unjust war, this time on Iran, the astute who read around aren't so quick to settle.

One need not question the motivation of Israeli Mossad to manufacture evidence: Being wiped off the map is not exactly in a country's best interest. And when that formidable reason for such a lie happens to align with a superpower's agenda and sanction, the likelihood of it happening increases quite substantially.

As the IAEA swallows the bait hook line and sinker, Iran has maintained the position from the start that the evidence from that supposedly stolen laptop is fake. And I for one tend to believe them, at least for now.

Now why would I believe such a thing and not ride the Bush train to downtown Tehran?

Because the evidence supporting the CIA's and Mossad's notorious nature far overwhelms the evidence of a continuing Iranian nuclear weapons program. It's that simple.

But let me not paint either organization with a broad brush. I want to be clear that we are talking about very bad, even evil, rogue elements of these organizations, who will stop at no length to victimize people, governmental systems, and entire nations to achieve NWO agenda.

To anyone who would question my rationale, I challenge you to go research these organizations best you can, and make your own determinations. The results will not be pretty. The bad apples in the barrel tend to spoil the take for everyone.

Edit to add: For those new to this story or who don't understand what in the heck this is about:

The White House has for some time claimed that it's evidence for an Iranian nuclear weapons program rests in large part due to a supposed Iranian laptop that was obtained, but has largely refused to turn over this laptop for close scrutiny, and kept it classified. Just recently they unveiled some of this "information" to the IAEA, causing major problems for Iran- and providing genetically modified food that warmongers feed on.

www.atimes.com
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[edit on 7-3-2008 by TrueAmerican]

There is people at the top that are pulling the strings. And they want WAR, first they try the nice way, trying the same trick of fear, bring fear to the people, BEWARE OF THE MUSHROOM CLOUD!!! they said.

The people didn't buy that for a second time, and now they that they can't get the people on board they go with their tail between their legs to the U.N., the same U.N. that didnt authorize a War in Iraq, to try an arrange one.

This people are shameless, the scum of the earth and would do anything.

reply to post by Bunch


I agree. Just be careful to examine all sides of this laptop situation. It is not as cut and dry as some people around here make it appear.

And like I'd have such a hard time believing that the Mossad engineered this? Pfft. It's a no brainer in my book.

Like Bush didn't do the same thing to get us into Iraq? Like Britain didn't do the same thing with their Dossier to make the British people swallow the hook? Like we didn't do it in the Gulf of Tonkin? Northwoods? Reichstag?

Puhleeease. I am over this crap.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by TrueAmerican]

It's the same thing as Iraq with the anthrax thing... TOTALLY MADE-UP. Documents on the Nigerian uranium sent to Iraq found on a computer... SURE.

It's totally made up once again. So what if Iran have nukes? Then maybe Israel will STFU and act like a civilised country towards the palestinians and will stop violating international law by flying over Lebanon and Syria breaching their airspaces everyday, killing people without any backslash...

But it seems that Bush will attack Iran before the end of his term, it depends if Fallon stays... even then, Robert Gates and Rize are supposedly against it.

If the US attacks Iran, just watch oil going to 200-300$ a barrel and gold exploding to at least 1500-2000$ maybe more all that in a matter of months maybe days.

Then there's Venezuela... and US-backed drug producing Colombia which could get the oil prices even higher.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by Vitchilo]

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Is the same way I feel, I wonder why there is people out there that are not able to see this. They playing the same game right in our faces, and probably going to get away with it.

I really want to buy a new laptop, not used to MAC, so I have to stick to Windows...I broke my current laptop, I think, since the power cord seems to be connected to the MotherBoard, I am told...and THAT is expensive to repair, they say...dropped the dern thing on the cord, broke the A/C connection....

Cheaper to but a new laptop, then just get batteries and charers for the old one?

Hated the screen, anyway...an Acer, small, not widescreen...hard to see, my old eyes!!!

Looking in Consumer Reports, maybe HP? Trying to go cheap, but a good screen, and lightweight is best, need to travel with it!!!

Yup. Vitch and Bunch:

But isn't it all just part of their plan unfolding? I feel a new NSR comin on. (see sig)

The other day I read a pretty amazing article over at Asia times that dealt with what the NWO is REALLY up to in the ME, how they are doing it, and how it all revolves around getting a pipeline to the Caspian Sea.

Now contrast that with articles floating around ATS that alternative forms of energy seem more viable than ever!

Yep TrueAmerican... and in the ME, they want to make it the Great Middle-East in constant civil war, divided in little nations so they can sell weapons to each side and have a thousand year war, exploit the ressources while the people there kill each others, make real terrorists so that they can expand their power at home... and of course having pipelines!

It all started with the Shah in 53, Iraq in the 60s with Saddam, then Afghanistan with Al-CIADA with Tim Osman in 78-79, but before that, the US meddling with the Saudis at the beginning of 1900s, then Israel imposed there in 47.

Old colonialism worked too well, Iraq and Iran would be democracy by now without foreign meddling with them, Syria and Egypt too. Saudi territory might have been conquered by someone else because they would be a bunch of middle-ages tribes.

The european elite, aka the NWO, can't have countries and free men against them, so they divide and conquer. AGAIN.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by Vitchilo]

reply to post by TrueAmerican


I'm serious, TA, I wanna buy a new laptop. Any suggestions?

(paranthesis...someone gave me a star, for a previous post about laptops? Thanks but...why? I love the concept, just hoping someone will come forth, I won't mock, I am chuckling at the idea...)

Serious, anyone have a great laptop they would care to recommend???

edit...maybe a U2U woud be appropriate...thanks.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by weedwhacker


lol, well- when I read your post, and it all resolved down to "I need to travel"- I figured you were in a clever way saying that you pretty much wanted to get the heck out of Dodge with all this crazy junk going on.

As far as a good laptop, maybe you might email our CIA and ask them the same question.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


TA, I don't think the CIA are gonna help us, in the coming crisis...

I'm seriously thinking obout Australia, as an escape plan. I love Canada, but, well, you know what's about to happen....

Adding...hey! I might escape to Europe, or Asia...Who knows?

I will just take all of my toys, and go....

[edit on 7-3-2008 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by weedwhacker


Well, I have no clue where to go even if I wanted to. Why should I have to go anywhere? I like it here. Or did.

But, we digress my friend. This thread is about, well, see OP.

Here is an article from 2005, about what Iran said when this laptop news came out:

www.guardian.co.uk...

Iran called the claims "worthless and naive". Hamid Reza Asefi, a foreign ministry spokesman, said: "The baseless claim made us laugh. We do not use laptops to keep our classified documents. It is another fuss ahead of the IAEA board meeting to poison the board's atmosphere."

The revelations came as Iran rejected a compromise proposal, made with US and EU support, enabling it to maintain a uranium enrichment programme as long as that process is completed in Russia.

"What matters to us is to preserve nuclear technology in Iranian hands," Iran's chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said. "Nuclear technology is the right of Iranians. It is a right no one can deny."

And from that same article:

Another [anti-Iran] official said: "It is one more piece of a strong circumstantial case that they are pursuing a nuclear weapon."

If we were talking circumstantial evidence, a good portion of the CIA and Mossad would be tried and hung for all of the atrocities they've committed.

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reply to post by mythatsabigprobe




There goes another cup of spilled coffee...

But I am disappointed MTABP, none of them come with the latest and greatest encryption program? Don't you realize that these special classified laptops have to be secure?

All of our laptops come standard with two-bit encryption.

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


Two-bit, or two-faced?

Now now, come on. Any self respecting laptop specialist knows that two bits is not nearly enough.

ok, this thread has taken an interesting turn.
I too almost spewed onto the monitor.
Are these 'reconditioned' computers?
Impounded and being resold by HLS for a tidy profit?
That two-bit encription with really be a headscratcher in those locked interrogation rooms at the airport.

theres more on that laptop then that info, theres a whole slew of user info not to mention you never delete anything off your hards drive unless You magnetize it an still fractments will be there, your delete button is no more then a paper shredder, they are still there just in section form..

has this computer been properly interviewed lol.