Proof the Aurora exists?

I was recently doing some research about the aurora and stumbled across this article on BBC News. Im not sure if its been posted up here before but im sure it has because the article is dated back in 2006. Well anywho here it is news.bbc.co.uk...

reply to post by CTMoney


Wow thats a very reliable source.
Its good to read from BBC that there are black projects
and US govt spends billions withour letting the people know
atleast this is very surely a truth...

no , this is not proof of aurora

please read it carefully - i will paraphrase

the brittish are aware of some detail of two secret US projects - the brittish consider that even a single paragraph overview of these projects is classified info - and has redacted the text from thier report before releasing it to the public domain

how the hell this translates to aurora exists escapes me - it is embracing ignorance to conclude that because you do not know what a parargrraph says - you conclude that it reffers to aurora

do you realise how many secret R&D progects are on going at any point ??

i never said it was proof...hence the question mark in the title of the forum

aurora exists...I and some others watched it's contrail on a nationwide weather sattelite.....a meteorologist from a news station called a peer an said he was looking at a weather sallelite and saw a contrail moving across the country at an incredible speed as the satellite refreshed every 60 seconds....it started over Nevada and we started viewing it when it was over Illinios....we kept watching all the way to London....total elapsed time -- a little over an hour. By then we all had work to do and were bored to tears anyway..

reply to post by nsaeyes


2 questions -

first - please identify this " weather satalite " which as you claim can image from nevada US to london England in < 1 hour

second - illinois to london is > 3900 statute miles by shortest route to msake this trip in 1 hour - logically the aleged craft must have been travelling > 3900 mph

where was the supersonic shock wave ?

the shuttle re entry is regularly heard as it passes over head on descent

and i have personally heard and seen concorde pass over out position in the north atlantic whuile yaching in the early 90s

lastly - appologies for a third question - but can you trace out the EXACT route this craft took ?

the sat. was a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Admin.

as for shockwaves...couldn't tell you...we just watched via computer, but I doubt the boom forest was that big due to altitude of the craft...

I forgot what #3 was...oh, yeah...flight path.....directly across the mid-section of the country then hooked a bit north halfway over the Atlantic, but over the U.S. it was a straight shot to the ocean.

also, there have been other reported sightings via satellite images....I think there was a cable show somewhere..NOVA maybe that did a speculative piece on Aurora.....they had something similiar....

Also, find a guy named Nick Cook who works for Jane's Defense....he can shed more light on the issue..

reply to post by nsaeyes



which NOAA platform ?? - they have more than one . i want system specs

as for the flight plan - you mean like this ?



i will repeat - the shockwave from the shuttle is heard on the ground as the craft passes - the witnesses on the ground experienced the shockwave from the #tle columbia - AFFTER they witnessed its destruction at 27km altutude

that flight path is about right, except extend it straight out to Nevada...

the shockwave issue...it would have definately occured after, the plane went by....i'm just not sure how loud it would have been.....the size of the plane + the atlitude at which it flies is going to determine the "loudness" of your boom.....based on the physical size of the shuttle and the aerodynamics of the shuttle, my guess the sound of it's boom would be larger than a plane like Aurora....either way, by the time you hear it.....it's long gone..

as for system specs on Noaa....i'm not a sat. guy or an expert on NOAA platforms...so I wouldn't be of much help.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by nsaeyes]

Look at a plane called the F-19 it may be for some of the Aurora sightings but I think the Aurora exists. If anyone has anything to say about the F-19 reply back.

the shuttles sonic boom is so incredibly loud becuase its reentering the atmosphere at an incredible speed...not the mach5+ that the aurora is speculated to hit


[edit on 3/7/2008 by CTMoney]

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I'm not even sure planes would show up on a weather satelite image... i will make enquiries.

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This is totally wrong. The size of the aircraft will influence the size of the "boom" due to the way that the sound waves form. The actual speed is common. All objects will cause a boom at Mach 1.0 (a variable speed based on altitude, due to the difference in air pressure). The max speed of the aircraft is irrelevant, as once it is past Mach 1.0, the boom has occured. Going faster makes no difference.

reply to post by CTMoney


Aurora was photographed flying over the Yorkshire Moors in daylight, the picture was published in the daily press at the time.
I saw one myself one night, it was easily seen as the friction was causing it to'glow' in the dark, this was about six or eight years ago, maybe Nefermore has heard some thing of it coming from Yorkshire?
Regards,
Horsegiver.

I believe it would show up in certain circumstainces. It would probably show up if it had a certain fuel type and it would be seen almost all together because of the high rate of speed it is moving at.if it is going say 8,000mph it would take about 10 minutes for the plane to go from LA to NewYork so the contrails maybe visible in that sence and also you have to put in the altitude and the temperature.

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The possibility of the F-19 or any development or there lack of has been thoroughly discussed on these forums and there is no solid evidence at this time for it other then claims of info from sources that can't be named. Any other evidence then this is more then welcome but this thread wouldn't be the place to do so.

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Care to link or post the image? If not its just another fact of a supposed image I have yet to see and that again can not be accounted for.


[edit on 10-3-2008 by Canada_EH]

Originally posted by Willard856
reply to post by CTMoney

 

The max speed of the aircraft is irrelevant, as once it is past Mach 1.0, the boom has occured. Going faster makes no difference.

Relative to what does it make no difference? The noise? Because going faster will effect things like when you see the plane and when you hear the boom etc.

reply to post by rat256


They wouldn't rat. What is claimed that did show up on the images from the sat that are used to monitor cloud formation and tracking is the "Aurora" Contrail. Personally I'd like to know if a regular contrail even does and if it doesn't what would need to be different for this one to show up.


Side note I do agree that the title of the thread is miss leading since the article and the info provided is just vague info to research and development black projects which no one questions are operational.