The Gullibility of Evolutionists

reply to post by Bigwhammy


Yes, sure and if we got by religious believes that has been twisted by the religious pushers, everybody is born in sin including the unborn.

Actually it sounds very pahtetic.

So I gather that you believe in the myth of the original sin.

reply to post by Conspiriology


What evidence have athiests ignored? What evidence, of a God, do you have? Do not send me to a webpage, just list reasons of proof that there is a God.

In fact, the people who use circular logic are generally the religious people.

Athiests say, "How do you know there is a God".

Believer - "Because I know".

Athiests - "Do you have any proof?"

Believer - "The Bible".

Now I have provided proof of evolution, since I believe in it. It doesn't mean there is no God, it just means we have evolved.

What proof do you bring to the table?

Originally posted by marg6043


Sad but truth.

True for you
Sad for you

Actually the God of Abraham was a very spiteful God with only one thing in mind War.

Wow,, sounds to me like you got a beef with a God you don't believe in.

Now in the name of religion and spreading religion in the world the most henious crimes against humanity has been committed.

And that is a fact

No,, that is BUNK,.


Since you have already accused Religion of buying history making your mind up that no matter what it is,, you have your mind made up

I certainly wouldn't want to cause any confusion

Submitting THE FACTS.


- Con

[edit on 9-3-2008 by Conspiriology]

reply to post by Conspiriology

The crusades, inquisitions and the holocaust are bunk now? Revisionist history must be such a comfort to you.


besides which you're posting offtopic. apparently this is the evolutionist bashing thread.. not the atheist bashing thread.

Edit. yes there is a difference between the two..

[edit on 9-3-2008 by riley]

reply to post by Conspiriology


You know very well that this no about a God I don't believe in but the version of God that you and many are trying to push in here taking advantage of this site.

And for prof you know very well that I can provide it through historical accounts and using the same bible verses you and many used to prove your point.

But that is not what you want because is not debate what you want because that is not the agenda here.

And that is a fact.

reply to post by Conspiriology


Really?

Have you ever heard of the holocaust?

Did you not know that the Muslims attacked us for infringing on their religon?

Almost every war has been over religion in the Middle East.

Ireland has the Protestants vs Catholics.

All the burnings at the stake over witchcraft.

The inquisitions? Ever heard of them? Trials over heresy. People were afraid to publish findings due to fear of persecution.

The list goes on.

I bet religion has caused more deaths than money. That's saying a lot.

How much was science hindered by religion?

reply to post by riley


You beat me to it!

[edit on 9-3-2008 by Sublime620]

reply to post by marg6043


Marg, you never say anything except that the threads are derailed, or nobody wants to know the truth as YOU see it, or that you can prove something you never bother to prove. Put up or !

Originally posted by Sublime620

In fact, the people who use circular logic are generally the religious people.

Athiests say, "How do you know there is a God".

Believer - "Because I know".

Athiests - "Do you have any proof?"

Believer - "The Bible".

lol That isn't the answer AshleyD, Big Whammy and a host of others would give you,, but then again their answeres wouldn't have served as well to cast Christians in as typically pathetic a people as that one does.

Seems I see this same set of answers being given to all Atheists asking the same question to apparently the same Christian.

What are the odds they are all asking the same Christian? I'd say the odds are better that it is just the same typical tactics used by Atheists to portray Christians as ,,, well,, as not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

What evidence have athiests ignored? What evidence, of a God, do you have? Do not send me to a webpage, just list reasons of proof that there is a God.

OK I will need to ask you first,

You are an Atheist I assume?

If yes, then does that mean that you do not believe that God exists?

- Con

reply to post by idle_rocker


Sorry but baiting is not my thing, I do not play by your rules, you can used it on others but on me it doesn't work.

So no more preaching?

I'm not baiting and I'm not preaching. You just said in your post that we knew you had the proof. So I just want you to prove it...that's all. Prove it.

reply to post by Sublime620


Kind of unfair to pin all those things on religion when it's more accurate to say that it's politics wrapped in religion designed to evoke strong emotions that are at fault here.

Why We Hate You: The Passions of National Identity and Ethnic Violence

Above PDF details how demonization works at the basic emotional levels (where religion isn't a factor) and how it can eventually lead to an us against them sort of mentality. It's a long read (50 pages or so) but well worth the time invested.

Anyway, what's the subject again?

[edit on 9/3/2008 by Beachcoma]

reply to post by Beachcoma


It was done with religion in mind, but is easier to pinned on the mentality of the politics and the evil ways of man that a God geared purpose.

Now when it's in the bible is pinned as a moral right by the people chosen by the commands of a God, something we find all the time in the old testament.

I agree with you on this one, what was the topic again

Has anyone ever noticed how many stars the evolutionists give each other when posting on this thread? I mean, it's like the "yeah, yeah, go get 'um, you said it right, yeah yeah" good ole boy network.

And you want me to believe there's not a conspiracy against religion? You can't even convince me yet that evolution IS what you're describing it is. All you've done so far as throw out a lot of mish mash that sounds like you're backed in a corner and trying to defend your position. Why is that? Are you not convinced of your own position yet?

reply to post by Conspiriology


No, I am agnostic.

reply to post by Beachcoma


No, you got it backwards. It's religion wrapped in politics. Religion was driving the policies, not the other way around.

And it makes no difference, if it's done in the name of religion, then it's relevant.

[edit on 9-3-2008 by Sublime620]

Originally posted by marg6043

You know very well that this no about a God I don't believe in but the version of God that you and many are trying to push in here taking advantage of this site.

What version would that be marg?

And for prof you know very well that I can provide it through historical accounts and using the same bible verses you and many used to prove your point.

Marg, you see any bible verses given by me in this entire thread?
I rarely use scripture in discussions like this but if you can use any to refute me,, then have at it

Bring it.

But that is not what you want because is not debate what you want because that is not the agenda here.

*Shakin head like a cartoon* huh!!??!

*sigh* look marg, you have already disclosed that what ever I say, my religion has already paid for revisionist history moreover,, it would seem I am either talking to sylvia brown, kreskin, or someone with a mean magic 8 ball.

I won't argue with a mind reader but I would be curious to know just what "the agenda" is here?

I mean,, since you know

and I DON'T

- Con

The God Delusion Debate

I heard Dr Lennox speak tonight! He was awesome.

[edit on 3/9/2008 by Bigwhammy]

Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by Conspiriology

 

No, I am agnostic.

Sorry for the delay sublime,, Ok now just so I know, and we are both on the same page,,this mean that you do not believe that God exists? yes or no? or?

- Con

Ugh. As much as I hate this turning into another debate about who killed more people (Atheists vs. Religionists), I hate being a Thread Nazi so...

I see a bias. Any 'religious' war is always blamed on religion- never ever on politics. Beachcoma was exactly right in what he said but there will still be those who will disagree by using scapegoats.

However, yes, atheists have killed tens of millions of people but the scapegoat is always 'politics and communism.' Let's not focus on the fact most of their victims were religionists and churches.

And that's all I'm going to say.

reply to post by Conspiriology


It means I have no opinion. I can't say either way. I'm not necessarily looking either. I'm happy with or without.

I have no seen any strong evidence as to any existance of God, but too many people believe. Many of the smartest men and women in history have believed in God, and I'm not cocky enough to discredit them.