The Gullibility of Evolutionists

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The experiment here wasn't to bait anyone and it wasn't to argue the virtues of Evolution vs. Creationism. It was the result of discussions AshleyD and I have had for quite some time regarding the unusually vitriolic treatment of Christians being brought by Atheist's.

I see it everywhere and in one thread here where ATS Member and fellow Christian 'Sizzler' also noticed it.

She was not prepared for the response in the thread 'conspiracy to overthrow Christianity'
One can NOT deny there is and has been for quite some time. For some reason and one I am still currently trying to research, Atheists are a people that although there are differences, it is one type that are fast becoming mainstream Atheists. It is MORE then obvious to me they have a lock on the public school science depts., are very involved with cases working with the ACLU and have an agenda to humiliate, insult, mock, make fun of, denigrate and disparage Christians and Christianity.


While it has been argued by many such as MIMS there is in fact NO organized group doing anything like this, I contend he is mistaken, unless you see Christian's websites where the menu alone is not just, largely about criticizing Christians but ALL about criticizing them. Can you call us what I am accusing Atheism of' I think we have just as much ammunition to support claims of Atheist ignorance Bigotry and intolerance TEN FOLD over 'excuses' given regarding Christians 'forcing' or 'shoving' our beliefs down anyone's throats.


Today, we have just as much motivation after all their silly vicious attack to create little logos of mud slime creatures crawling out of the primordial soup and make silly jokes about them with Bumper Stickers saying 'Devilution Happened you idiot' but they don't believe in that and that's ok because NOW we have every reason to tell the so called science community of Atheist forum warriors where they can stick their pseudo Science "A lie ance" between Atheism and Evolution


We can bust into chartrooms where Atheists congregate and spew Hell Fire and Brimstone scripture, spamming the hell out of them (no pun). That may or may not have happened but I can gamble that it is in fact a rare occurrence you see self respecting Christians do that.


We have just as much right to laugh in the face of Atheism and their sick corrupt morally bankrupt false Science. Nothing can be further from real science then Darwin's evolution, Nothing. I have seen people argue to the point they can't seem to count and I mean BOTH Christians and Atheists



That's just math and mathematician's have debunked evolution so well I just got back from three days of watching a Professor of Statistics (an agnostic) shred I mean literally shred evolution to bits using their most recent data. He did it with relative ease.


It is ONLY because the Atheist hold in this particular area of our public school systems that it is still being taught today and it is pathetic to say the very least. IMAGINE how much further we could have advanced had they not been so damned bent on continually trying to substantiate a LIE and OLD HOAX of the past.

Yet it is the liberal Atheist left that has been Accusing Christians of "bombing Science back to the Stone Age” Could their possibly be a Bigger kettle calling us Black' I don't think so. No I KNOW so.

Yet they continue to feel THIS terminally self righteous need to laugh at creationism'




I wonder if these two couldn't get past their cognitive dissonance and work together that we could get some REAL discoveries made. We Christians aren't that bad and I'll admit we have done some "Hum Dingers" in the past but by and large,, we really are not what we see you say we are.
The below description of "Cognitive dissonance" is so prevalent in Science today that the study of this phenomena has itself, become a science. Read a short paragraph given by wikipedia on the subject.

"In simple terms, it can be the filtering of information that conflicts with what one already believes, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce one's beliefs. In detailed terms, it is the perception of incompatibility between two cognitions, where "cognition" is defined as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or behavior. The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions. Experiments have attempted to quantify this hypothetical drive. Some of these have examined how beliefs often change to match behavior when beliefs and behavior are in conflict"

Any one that knows me knows I have been vocal about this agenda atheists have had for quite some time. From the arguments I have had with MIMS, Major, Mel, and their continual use of what I now call 'Atheist Teflon double speak', to websites where I have posted examples of the virulent hatred of a people who they say are gullible, dumb or stupid and frankly,,

I am sick of it.

I am sick of seeing this kind of childish garbage on websites and I mean just about ALL Atheist websites where EVERYTHING they talk about is US.




I started noticing it in discussions with evolutionists also. Then I started seeing Atheists continue to act out the very behavior they despised most in Christians. Dogmatism 'How Dare you question the Bible vs. 'How Dare you question Evolution'.

The religious fervor was undeniably similar to our own. Ashley knows I have been doing research on Atheist's. I have done these before, one, three year study on the social aspects of online gaming in another, cheating in online gaming. Another in telemarketing scams that was televised in 1993 on 20/20 With Stone Phillips and Jane Pauley.

I am unequivocally absolutely a Christian who was asked to participate in a study by a Church consortium with concerns about Atheism. I had tried doing one before on Scientology but was 'made' and banished post haste.

I wasn't sure there was anything to it but the popularity of recent best selling book by Dawkins Hitchens and Harris was a big concern of theirs.

Another concern of course, was the numbers in people interested in Christianity were dropping. Much of that I attributed to all the news about Pedophile priests and the absolute asinine way the Church handled it. I have probably been one of the Churches biggest pains in the ass for my letters to Church Councils regarding John Hagee and George Bush.

I have been to numerous meetings and lectures given by Richard Dawkins.

The Double Speak I talk about is seen by others too

26 November 2007 Darwinism predicts 'X.' Oh, you tell me the opposite of 'X' happened' Well Darwinism predicted that too.

Marx (Karl, not Groucho) predicted that under capitalism workers were bound to become more and more dissatisfied and therefore a workers' revolution was inevitable. When workers' conditions actually improved under capitalism, Lenin modified the theory ' of course the workers' lot is improving; the capitalists are bribing them to keep them pacified, just what the theory predicted would happen.

http//www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/darwinism-predicts-x-oh-you-tell-me-the-opposite-of-x-happened-well-darwinism-predicted-that-too

CUPERTINO, Calif.'Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund filed suit yesterday against the Cupertino Union School District for prohibiting a teacher from providing supplemental handouts to students about American history because the historical documents contain some references to God and religion.

Throwing aside all common sense, the district has chosen to censor men such as George Washington and documents like the Declaration of Independence. The district's actions conflict with American beliefs and are completely unconstitutional, said ADF Senior Counsel Gary McCaleb.
In addition, they have wrongfully applied their policy to only one teacher, who is a professed Christian.
http//www.alliancedefensefund.org/news/pressrelease.aspx'cid=3218

In addition to things said here by Atheists you end up getting just what you Feared from us

We see it everywhere BUT IN THE CLASSROOMS WHERE I'M SORRY MEL, They haven't cleaned up this CRAP. I know I had just seen the same garbage in NEW text books at Arizona State, and for someone who talks about being indignant with the dishonesty you sure don't seem to be where the dishonesty suits your ideology.

Darwin's Mistake by Hans J Zillmer
Published in nine languages, this international best-seller puts the latest discoveries and new evidence against Darwin's "Theory of Evolution".

The author, who owes his insights and expertise to numerous excavations he participated in, describes recent findings that in line with suppressed results of scientific research prove what seems unthinkable to us today:Darwin is wrong.

Major reason why evolutionist arguments can sound so persuasive is because they often combine assertive dogma with intimidating, dismissive ridicule towards anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Evolutionists wrongly believe that their views are validated by persuasive presentations invoking scientific terminology and allusions to a presumed monopoly of scientific knowledge and understanding on their part. But they haven't come close to demonstrating evolutionism to be more than an ever-changing theory with a highly questionable and unscientific basis. (The situation isn't helped by poor science education generally. Even advanced college biology students often understand little more than the dogma of evolutionary theory, and few have the time or the guts to question its scientific validity.)
www.evofraud.com...

• 1. it's not science. You cannot observe, test and repeat the ever-changing ideas that are little more than wild speculation.
  
  
• 2. It devalues real science. Chemistry, physics and biology don't have the same problems of legitimacy because they are real sciences, not philosophical wannabes trying to appear legit.
  
  
• 3. Complex engineering. Do you ever drive past a skyscraper and think to yourself 'Gee, I guess billions of years of random chance could have just as easily assembled all of that glass, steel and concrete as well as a team of engineers, architects, construction workers working from blueprints' Of course not! But that's what evolutionists would have you believe in when it comes to living organisms.
  
  
• 4. Genetics. The programming code of life, according to evolutionists, is just a series of biochemical accidents and mutations. If you believe this, I have a bridge in New York that's for sale. The infinitely complex engineering of this code means that it did not come about via 'natural selection,' aqua random chance.
  
  
  
• 5. Mathematically Impossible. Basic probability tells you that the odds of a blob of primordial ooze morphing into a man, regardless of how much time has passed, are so remote that mathematicians regard it as impossible. Emile Borel and Fred Hoyle are just two mathematicians who reject evolution on statistical grounds.
  
  
• 6. Evolution is a religion. Yes, evolution is the faith of atheism because it replaces God with man. When you've conned yourself into believing that some kind of ancient slime morphed into progressively complex and directional life forms, you are in the realm of faith, not science.
  
  
• 7. Racism. This is the ugly secret that evolutionists don't want to discuss; that Darwin, Huxley and many of the early advocates of evolution stated publicly that Asians, Africans, Australian Aborigines and other non-white, non-European groups are evolutionary throwbacks. Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a pioneer in the early field of eugenics which was the study of skills by ethnic groups. While Galton's work was relatively harmless, Hitler's work to synthesize natural selection by exterminating a race of people was not. More info a
  
  
  

www.evofraud.com...

Read the excerpts of the "Survival of the Fakest"
Each page takes approx 1800 milliseconds to change.



It's like I said,, evolution is the BIGGEST DAMN HOAX ever perpetrated in Science What a shame we have allowed this garbage to slither and slime it's way into Science but what a tragedy it's been,,

To see it is still doing business

AS USUAL

- Con









[edit on 7-3-2008 by Conspiriology]

I smell a tag-team here!

BTW, a plural does not need an apostrophe.

Yeah, I'm gonna get raked over the coals for this one, I betcha!

I love the YouTube link, provided elswhere, sorry I don't know how to use the magic blue thingy to link, try going to YT and searching for 'sexism in the Bible'. Should be very illuminating....

Check out Matthew 18:7-9

check out 1 Timothy 2...'....Let a woman learn in silence with all submisisiveness....'

Come back and tell us why the bible is such a great and 'holy' book....

So... you're crazy? Cool! Post some interesting things that have nothing to do with some invisible man making you to see if you'd worship Him or not and we're all good.

But you're still crazy.

Originally posted by ConspiriologyI have been to numerous meetings and lectures...

Clearly, you win.

Man is only a few thousands years old, God made the Pyramids to mess with us, and Dinosaur bones, and you, my friend are one angry genius. You seriously need your own AM radio show to explain exactly how dumb everyone but you is.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by RANT]

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Not sure who you are referring to, last post. BTW, calling another member 'crazy' will get you a warning...

There is a long post at the top of this page, by 'conspriology' I believe.

I have been accused of being 'long-winded', but this post is pretty long. I haven't had the chance to read the whole thing yet, not sure it's worth my time, since I see bad spelling and grammar, and bad punctuation...these three things tip me off to a generally bad post.

Bt, since we keep high standards here on ATS...heck, I even seen Skeptic Overlord use the word 'hell'...and I did really bad grammar there on purpose...twice...just to show that it ain't all that important, it's the messagage that matters!!

[Am I gonna get a warning for writing 'hell'??]

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by RANT

 

Not sure who you are referring to, last post. BTW, calling another member 'crazy' will get you a warning...

If calling Conspiriology crazy gets you a warning so be it. I can't tolerate insanity. I am not "fair & balanced" when it comes to the lunatic fringe and elevating crazy people that have no legitimate rights in public discourse.

Sorry, I'll just go. Ya'll have fun.

reply to post by Conspiriology


This is O&C. Conspiracies in Religion is over there. It'll meet all your persecution complex, atheist-bashing, muslim-hating, Catholic-attacking needs.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
I smell a tag-team here!

BTW, a plural does not need an .

Yeah, I'm gonna get raked over the coals for this one, I betcha!

I love the YouTube link, provided elswhere, sorry I don't know how to use the magic blue thingy to link, try going to YT and searching for 'sexism in the Bible'. Should be very illuminating....

Check out Matthew 18:7-9

check out 1 Timothy 2...'....Let a woman learn in silence with all submisisiveness....'

Come back and tell us why the bible is such a great and 'holy' book....

Yeah for some reason all my apostrophe turned into "?" when Pasted it from word, so I used notepad replace and then I saw your post.

So Ill just let THAT be your best shot at me mainly because it looks as nitpicky as it does. The Youtube thing? Pfffft If anyone UNDERSTOOD the Bible they would Understand what Jibberish that is.

Anytime you wanna play God and do a better job? Ill betcha if ya could,, their would be someone that wouldn't like your performance.

Or my apostrophe mistakes

heheh

- Con

[edit on 7-3-2008 by Conspiriology]

Originally posted by Conspiriology

Anytime you wanna play God and do a better job? Ill betcha if ya could,, their would be someone that wouldn't like your performance.

Or my apostrophe mistakes

heheh

- Con

Sense. MAKE. Man being a monkey, YOU prove.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Conspiriology

 

This is O&C. Conspiracies in Religion is over there. It'll meet all your persecution complex, atheist-bashing, muslim-hating, Catholic-attacking needs.

What are ya trying to say faux? Can you be more specific? Are you asking for a flame fight ?

Instigating something again?

share with me faux? whats your beef this time

C'mon girl,, tell me?

- Con

Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by Conspiriology

Anytime you wanna play God and do a better job? Ill betcha if ya could,, their would be someone that wouldn't like your performance.

Or my apostrophe mistakes

heheh

- Con

Sense. MAKE. Man being a monkey, YOU prove.

Atheists proving my point Over and over hehe

I love it lol

- Con

reply to post by Conspiriology


I'm saying you're posting that in the wrong forum, and if you really feel the need to attack atheists while complaining about how bitterly persecuted you are, that seems to be what the CiR forum is for.

Originally posted by Conspiriology

Atheists proving my point Over and over hehe

I love it lol

- Con

If your point is man is younger than the pyamids, how do you prove a damn thing? I'm not an an Atheist, but I do know they cleary have more sense than you.

Do you preach anywhere, or are just an ameateur crazy person.

Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by Conspiriology

Atheists proving my point Over and over hehe

I love it lol

- Con

If your point is man is younger than the pyamids, how do you prove a damn thing? I'm not an an Atheist, but I do know they cleary have more sense than you.

Do you preach anywhere, or are just an ameateur crazy person.


" ameateur " what is that? So you believe in God I take it? yeah I suppose their are Atheists have more sense then me.

So what?

- Con

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Conspiriology

 

I'm saying you're posting that in the wrong forum, and if you really feel the need to attack atheists while complaining about how bitterly persecuted you are, that seems to be what the CiR forum is for.

No I'm not fox, this is the right one so get off my neck or ill just put you on ignore. All you ever do is start crap with people just like the post says.

If you are not an Atheist then it isn't about you. AS I recall you are an alleged Buddist.

- Con

Originally posted by Conspiriology
" ameateur " what is that?

Apparently you.

Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by Conspiriology
" ameateur " what is that?

Apparently you.

Umm yeah you got a problem with that?

Here,, I don't take myself so serious that I can't laugh

You look like you could use a good chuckle, this had my sides hurting I was laughin so hard I had tears in my eyes

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Conspiriology


You do have a wicked sense of humour, or else you don't know sarcasm when it is in your face!

A banana in your hand!!!! LOL, Priceless!!!!

reply to post by AshleyD


Dude, the mere thaught that a 21st century Person can actually believe that a few thousand years ago, some dude waved his hand & made all we see here today.....

Errr, well, that guy that believes that is an utter moron & deserves to be sent back to live in the dark ages & leave us "grown ups", be!!!

We have fossils that prove the earth was here over 3 billion years ago.

The Cimerians were already here before the earth was deemed to have been created so how do the creationists explain all of this...?

I have never heard a creationist explaination even worth of being sound..

Simple as 1, 2 & 3...., creationists lose, Evolutionists FTW!!!

reply to post by Ironclad


Ironclad, thanks for your post.

What are the 'Cimerians'? Hope I spelled that correctly.

I'm not challengng you, just asking for clarification.

Thanks, again.