Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11

im speaking from experience, Ive been stabed stoping a man from taking a womens purse..... two quick jabs to my lower right side, I was 18, in Baltimore city fells point area, Just had some Liquid Courage at my best friend's sister's bar she worked at, I went to get a slice accross the street came around the middle street vendor's building an saw a women grasping at her purse, I ran over yellin dive tackled him an as I was gettin up from being on top of him I get reach around with a pocket knife. I had the purse but when I glanced at my wounds he pushed off of me an took off....

had the purse although it was ripped still had her wallet which was all she cared about, I left before cops came becuz I was not in a state to talk to cops being I was a minor,

Still was a surreal moment, like the time I saw a women get hit by a truck.... recessitation was out of the question if you know what I mean.....

Why didnt anyone risk their life for the many aboard that plane? as I hear some did why didnt it work? was flight 93 really like it was in the movie? an if so wow.............

Starred and flagged!! Good find my friend, I have just sent the link to all my brainwashed family and friends that are still buying the propaganda.

Traction for the truther movement shows the world isn't as corrupted as we thought. Great thread, I was wondering when some insiders come forward. The lies and deceit on that day need to be peeled away. I'm tired of arguing with co-workers who could never concede we'd been had.

This whole thing is like the Alien Disclosure movement.....many with intimate knowledge know and a few do talk....but the world at large ignores the obvious and goes on without a care.

A public execution of Cheney would be a good first step

Well thank you guys for all the replies, and I'll be off for a while... I think there is good here. Just look into their eyes, in all the pictures. I can feel it, can you? This is a good day.

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yup,we need to empower those who cannot be corrupted,those with integrity and wisdom,the lincons,washingtons,roosevelts.where have they all gone?.

i am a believer that currently and previously those who are most capale of grabbing power get it,and it is usualy the most ruthless who are most capable of that grabbing.the ideal should be that those who are most capable of weilding power effectivly for all should be enthroned,democracy is supposed to do just that however we all know how elections have become a farce,the people are merely manipulated and he who is most capable of manipulating the minds of the public generaly wins elections.

things need to change,either the election system/campaigning must be overhauled or the public must be educated to a point where they understand whats going on...how they are manipulated and why.

Secrecy is there weapon, and knowledge is ours! we can win this war of pychosis in time. Unfortunatly this is a very powerful organization that will squash any opposing media that trys to fight back. We are now fighting a force that has been around since the begining of time.

I just hope everyone is willing to die for there cause of a better world for humanity, cause if they feel that "They" will be fully disclosed and lose there fight that they have been working on for centries. They will start mass genociding us to squash the truth.

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the reasons that this has not been investigated thoroughly by congress and indictments not handed out are the following....anthrax sent to the ranking democractic co-chairman of the 2 committees directly responsible for this type of investigation....and possible threats to family and friends of other members of congress. strong incentives to keep your mouth shut.

[edit on 2-3-2008 by jimmyx]

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and as far as our "bill of rights", i tend to agree with that illustrious orator, george carlin, that the document should be called the "temporary bill of priviledges"

Originally posted by Trance Optic
what got me an yes I may be hated for this but honestly How do people take over a plane of 50+ people with box cutters?

Let see, My life or some deep wounds?

I would of been biting some jugulars or something..... No one knew a choke hole , take off your shoes and beat them to death with them....

Im just saying theres alot of herioc people out there alot of which do not know they are heroic untill that moment comes....

Very true.

Seldom do people realize thier capability for heroism until a situation arises in which they are compelled to act.

And they seldom recognize thier actions as "Heroic" after the fact; they just "did what they felt was right".


As to confronting the possiblity of "deep wounds" from box-cutter wielding "terrorists...


"...In case of a water landing , the lower portion of the seat cushions may be used as flotation devices..."


...or shielding against box-cutter wielding goons.


Certainly the passengers had coats, sweaters, purses, briefcases, carry-on luggage...and yes, even shoes (Many of the 9/11 "highjackers" were identified as being of Suadi Arabian descent. I believe that showing the bottom of your shoe to a Saudi is considered a high insult; pelting and beating him with your shoes would be the ultimate in debasement!) which could have been employed to rouse an en mass counter-offense against the alleged terrorists?

As previously posted by FRIEGHTENER

I can tell you that most of my buddies in the services speak of two sides
within... You are RIGHT about "counter" soldiers. Go ahead and breathe
that particular sigh of relief, I have!

Frightener, this is a revelation that I, personally, find almost too Frieghtening to belive! Almost!

But I am reminded that similar rumors of a schism within the USAF were the reason, perhaps the Only reason, that last year's supposedly Unauthorized release and subsequent, unsecured transport of nuclear-tipped cruise missles, in launch configuration on the wing of a B-52 bomber, was revealed to the public.


Your statement serves as additional, and independent confirmation that such a schism exists.


That fact, alone, is a matter that Desparately needs to be made known and confirmed to the general public IMMEDIATELY!!!


The existence, within the military and its command structure, of a functioning element, willing and capable of acting against the will and best interests of the citizens they are SWORN to protect and defend is a breach of national security that cannot be allowed to go unchallenged!


I only hope that it is not too late.

George Carlin still he comes up with original material, while talking about real issues, one of the great comedians. Seriously thought news like this keeps hope alive!

While I'm not really convinced of this whole inside job theory I'll at least agree that these are some very credible people. Although their opinion isn't swaying my opinion of what happened on 9/11 I don't think it would hurt to have an investigation and hopefully this will further momentum for such a thing.

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Revelation!

Thank you cyberdude78, because it's posts like yours that actually give me some hope. I don't really know what to believe about the entire thing, but the official line is extremely difficult to concede.

As such, its great to see someone that can both not believe that 9/11 was an inside job, but, at the same time, see that there is still a need for a better more in depth investigation.

Far too many people dismiss the entire event as an open and shut case, and, as far as I'm concerned, that exposes such a level of ignorance as to completely baffle every shred of reason that my fragile mind holds.

Great post TA!!!! As Always!
This has got to be really encouraging to the American people, and to people around the world who have doubts about this 9/11 theory... It's going to take more people though, I feel, to have a serious impact on the control-mongering power of your current administration... Let's hope even more people jump on board...

And let's hope that they are separate (non-bias) entities from the government... we can't have an investigation occur again by say... the Commission...

Starred and flagged ol' boy!!!

Ok, let me get it straight then:

1)Al-queda is a fictional cia "enterprise" acknowledged only by mainstream media

2)Muslims have no beef with the west

3)Al-queda did not attack civilians in europe either...must have been the british secret service in england and spanish secret police bombing madrid

4)Everyone in manhattan must have been seeing holographic airplanes hit the towers

This makes sense to everyone jumping on the "inside-job" bandwagon I will concede however that the pentagon attack is somewhat suspicious. The pilot who crashed the plane into such a relatively short target must have been well trained...not a rookie as some are suggesting. But they received training in florida so they probably were skilled enough to do the job.

As for the hijack code being off...well off course they would...if they turned it on the planes would be suspicious. If there were five hijackers per plane then subduing them would not be easy. By the time the airline pilots figure out what is happening they would have been taken out, then they switch off the transpoder to confuse faa before turning east to attack.

What strikes me as odd is why didn't they send fighters to escort these "rogue" planes and shoot them down before they managed to impact the target area. Where they afraid of backlash from the media and relatives?

In my opinion, there are still some questions that need to be answered.

More questions:

If the planes were all holographs of planes, but cruise missiles in reality, then we have a conspiracy of MAMOUTH PROPORTIONS!!! That means everyone was in the deal, including the said airlines. In other words they are pretending to have lost four planes and the FAA agrees.

And were the calls from the plane that crashed in pennsylvania fabricated as well? Sorry but this is just too much for me to believe!

Lastly, if there was knowledge of such planned mayhem would there only be a few dozen whistleblowers? I think not!

In my opinion the only conspiracy is one: They had knowledge of pending attacks and failed to act upon it. That shows incompetance but does not suggest, much less prove "inside job".

Ghost Riders in the Sky -- an alternative 9/11 theory worth reading in light of some of what has been asked on this thread:

At 7:45 the flight crew closed the cabin doors and the 767 began to taxi out to the runway. Clearance came minutes later and, at 7:59, the engines opened to full throttle and the 767 became airborne. It climbed into clear blue skies, leveled at 25,000 feet, and headed west toward Los Angeles. Ogonowski called up the coordinates for Los Angeles on the flight control computer, then engaged the INS/autopilot system. A flight attendant brought coffee to the cockpit and stayed to chat briefly, before resuming her duties.

The flight continued normally until 8:27, nearly half an hour into the trip. At that point Ogonowski’s chest felt tight and he experienced difficulty breathing. Was it a heart attack? He glanced nervously at McGuinness, thinking that if the symptoms got worse, he should warn the co-pilot that he was having a medical problem. But McGuinness’ face was white and he appeared to be gasping for air. Then he vomited. "We have a situation," declared Ogonowski, trying desperately to think. There were shouts and screams coming from the passenger compartment behind the closed cockpit doors. His mind seemed to be clouding over and breathing was now impossible. He managed to say, "Call the flight attendants," before passing out. McGuinness’ head was already lolling to one side.

Back in the passenger area, the last flight attendant to lose consciousness, sank slowly to her knees before passing out in the aisle. The aircraft smelled of vomit and feces. Except for one or two passengers lying in the aisles, most remained in their seats. They appeared to have all fallen asleep, but they were dead. Everybody in the aircraft was dead.

Back in the cockpit, pilot and copilot sat dead in their seats, eyes staring blankly at the deep blue sky above the cockpit windows. The aircraft continued to fly normally, when suddenly the numbers on the inertial navigation system display changed. Instead of the coordinates for Los Angeles airspace, new numbers jumped into place. The aircraft banked steeply to the left and began a slow descent, adding another 100 mph to its airspeed.

In the distance, the New York skyline was growing steadily larger through the cockpit windows, though no one saw it. The aircraft, continuing to descend, headed for lower Manhattan.

It would be wonderful if some sort of momentum could be built in order to unmask the dark powers in the USA government.

Related to these thoughts: I worry about the scenario in the U.S. television series Jericho actually coming to pass. I also fear that the USA will go to war on Good Friday of 2008.

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Playing devils advocate here.

If these 25 US Military Officers Challenge the official account, why don't they contact the FBI and or file a official complaint with the DOJ?

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Dear devil's advocate,
Why would they go to Satan and his minions to try to get to the truth of things? The FBI and DOJ -- especially at present -- are not monuments to truth, efficiency, and submission to the rule of law.

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From the quote you posted this stands out the most:

When it comes to 9/11, conspiracy theories go wild. After so many uncovered U.S. Government lies during the past century, the community of those willing to believe in anything, if it just contradicts what Washington tells us, is growing faster than ever. Maybe even the U.S. Secret Services have their fingers in this game of producing rumors and more or less plausible sounding theories contradicting the official version. It would help covering the truth behind a confusing smoke screen of hundreds of conflicting theories. This tactic proved very effective regarding the assassination of John F. Kennedy. The skeptic reader needs to be all the more careful when confronted with alternative theories. The following will discuss two of them, the first one of them having the advantage that every reader can check it out.

I might add 9-11 itself is a HUGE SMOKESCREEN to ufos/aliens, underground bases, new spyplanes, ghosts, etc. The secret service are EXPERTS at twisting facts around, creating hundreds of semi-plausible theories and generally just confussing the hell out of everyone!

And guess who pays for this "friendly service"?

Originally posted by jimmyx
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anthrax sent to the ranking democractic co-chairman of the 2 committees directly responsible for this type of investigation....and possible threats to family and friends of other members of congress. strong incentives to keep your mouth shut.

Actually, I am not so sure on the anthrax letters. Someone somewhere did a pretty good job of matching the hijacker's signatures to similarities in the letters, making a pretty credible case that those letters were sent from elements of the 911 complicit. Don't worry, I am aware of the evidence of the anthrax having originated from the US, too. But it all ties in to that "rogue" element of CIA operatives and others who may have assisted them.