Martial Law…

Originally posted by sparda4355

Originally posted by THIseNdsnowoldKings
that is why certain US police forces were/are trained for urban combat recently. Why they are making all the bullet proof armors, and super weapons.

We also have WAY TOO MANY TROOPS... We don't need half of them, they are placing them in weird areas with no action and it is almost as if they are prepairing for something... ie: taking over our own country!

The sad part is... because people are so scared of their own shadows, most of them are going to be BEGGING for this martial law, they are going to celebrate if it passes! They are being fooled every day by their own panic buttons!

Way too many troops?

and just were are they placed that are weird? Most the bases have been where there are for 100+ years.

Originally posted by wdkirk
I am willing to bet that Bush steps down like normal. A new president will take over. Marshal Law is not going to happen under Bush. You folks really do know how to take an idea and run with it though. Kudos to your great imaginations.

If you are willing to make this "bet" what are you willing to risk? Your freedom? Your rights? If I am wrong... life goes on as normal, if there is even a small chance that we are correct, life as we know it quite honestly will never be the same!

All I am saying is I know a lot of people that have this belief, and it doesn't hurt to be ready for "just in case"...

I will say this, it is NOT as "out there" as you might think!

reply to post by EyesWideShut


Well I hope to join arms with you when/if it does!

I would like out point out to rjmelter that there must be birth pangs before there is birth. It takes many increasing periods of great pain to bring forth something priceless.

So it shall be with us. The minor twitches began a while ago, but now the process is accelerating in earnest.

I would be wary of the confident midwife who holds a dagger instead of a towel for the child. Also, the mother is in an extremely unhealthy state, she will not survive. So the question is this:

How do we insure the survival of the child?


I believe that Bush intends to use the fuhrer like powers granted unto him by the various acts and agencies he established while legitimately in power.
because of the already deepening vortex our country is in, we would not make it through another normal president. The ship of power would be crushed into pieces by then. No...

If the current owners of state wish to keep their power, they must suspend normal activities and push for total control. Coming from their viewpoint, it would be too late if we waited for anther election to finish. This is not about preserving the country, it is about preserving control.

The current owners are the midwife, they will try to kill real freedom. The nation as it is is the mother. The way things currently are, we must abandon hope to resuscitate her. She was slowly poisoned to begin with.
The truth is, the midwife must be removed. Or the baby, our next country, will be murdered with its very first cries.

Originally posted by sparda4355

All I am saying is I know a lot of people that have this belief, and it doesn't hurt to be ready for "just in case"...

Just out of curiousity, how are you, ready?

If it gets as bad as you think, the draft will probably be instituted immediately.

How do you plan to get out of that one?

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


Well until she gets back on ATS... let me answer a few questions...

They treated her very different than the other "people" involved... it's like they were looking for certain reactions and she gave the "right" ones!

The study was supposed to determan how "safe" we feel as a society... However it seemed more like they were trying to spread fear than prevent it!

The four scenarios they used were not really "preventable", well with out "martial law" in effect... They were scary "of course" and a couple people that were there with Diana asked the same questions I asked... "why are we really here?" and they would answer and then the same question would come up "why are we really here" and they would get all flustered...

One of the scenarios quickly came true... Something to do with an oil refinery blowing up in texas... she knows more details, but look it up! It actually happened!

www.homelandsecurityus.com...

This was 2 or 3 days after the "focus group"...

Before I even gave consideration to this martial law thing, she was telling me about this "study" and I instantly told her it didn't make sense.... I said without hesitation, it sounds like a study on mass hystaria... The only problem was, I had no idea why?

Until I started looking into this whole "martial law" thing! Then it instantly all made sense!

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


If it gets as bad as you think, the draft will probably be instituted immediately.

How do you plan to get out of that one?

Well he could go to canada if that happens, yet he seems like a patriot, so that is probably out of the Question.

reply to post by darcon


Do you think Canada is going to take draft dodgers? I highly doubt it. I don't really know this for sure, but since you are a Canadian, you might know. Isn't Canada supposed to round draft dodgers up and send them back home as criminals this time around?

Maybe that is what all the supposed "box cars" people keep talking about are for.

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


For the record, it is not difficult to get out of a draft, especially if it is our own country we are at war with!

I mean ready mentally!

I mean coming up with a plan of action! Self-defence etc...

reply to post by darcon


I have no problem with Canada! However I would rather stand my ground and defend my family and my loved ones "if possible"...

Go down blazing!

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


What am i talking about, you are exactly right, canada will not be safe. It is too close, and it is basically ran by the States. Maybe you can go somewhere unexpected like Jamaica


Isn't Canada supposed to round draft dodgers up and send them back home as criminals this time around?

Canada is a big place, with very little people. The biggest city is Toronto, and it barely compares to your top ten cities. But for that reason, I love canada. It has A ton of scenery changes, and Nature, spread out all across it. It would be easy to dodge this sort of thing, if the Canadian Government was operating it. But it would be different if Americans were doing ti. They have more manpower and Resources for that sort of thing. Sad thing is i wouldn't doubt it, about Americans running this sort of operation in canada.

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Originally posted by sickleye


I believe that Bush intends to use the fuhrer like powers granted unto him by the various acts and agencies he established while legitimately in power.

Could you tell me what powers these are?

reply to post by darcon


And the sad part is... you're right! They would probably "use" Canada as an example! They would do it there first to show us all that it would be okay... and sense the average American doesn't give a crap about Canada, they "we" wouldn't even bat an eyelash...

Then we would welcome it here, because the "media" would only show us the benefits of martial law and none of the "side effects" of women getting raped, homes being taken over, people/children being shot for being out after "lights out time"...

This might seem like a worst case scenario, but just remember all those criminals that we said "go to prison or join the army" now are on our streets! Go US!!!

reply to post by sparda4355


Oh, ok. I thought you already had a plan that you might share with us.

As far as being mentally prepared? Hmmmm, until you have actually lived under a martial law situation, you really don't know.

Why do I say this? I lived in Louisiana during martial law after hurricaine Katrina. While I was not in the New Orleans area, we still did have damage where I lived that was along the evacuation route.

While the guardsmen did not come knocking on our doors here, their presence was everywhere, and unless we had an emergency, we had a dusk til dawn curfew, that lasted for weeks.

Where would you go and hide, if they came knocking on your door looking for you when you didn't answer your draft notice? Would you endanger friends and family who might hide you?

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


They can't watch you every second of every day... I am not saying I know exactly what to do, and what I would be "willing" to do would be directly related to how they would treat us... If it was a worst case scenario, and they were breaking into our homes, raping our wives (girlfriends), or beating us with the butts of their rifles, I would be willing to do pretty much anything...

As far as the draft... I don't think I would be selected, they would be taking kids between 18-22 until they started running out, but if they did draft me and I could not get away it would come down to this... You can take away my rights, you can take away my home, but you can't take away my honor, you can't touch my mind and you can't touch my soul! You can hand me a rifle, you can tell me to talk in line, but you can't make me fire it and you can't make me fight for what I don't believe in!

I fight for what I do believe in, and if I found it necessary to defend myself against any force domestic or not, I would never back down! You would have to put a bullet in my head!

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reply to post by sparda4355


Don't get me wrong. If something like that were to happen in canada, there would be rioting. The only thing is the Canadian People would not be able to Withstand the forces of your Government and my Government working together, to take down the people. We just would not have the resources, and the manpower. We would need our fellow American PEOPLE to stand also, if there ever is a Revolution. Let me tell you if there is a Revolution in America, it will effect canada Greatly.

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reply to post by darcon


I will tell you this... I stand up for people when their rights are taken away... I don't care if you bleed red, white, and blue or uh... red and white... lol

If Canada was under martial law, a communist dictator, or aliens from outer space, I would defend you in the same way I would defend my own family!

Heck, I would have to defend you guys, you're all a bunch of sissy men... Only kidding! lol just a joke!

I think a great way to defend ourselves would be to create a secret society (like the skulls or masons) only with an objective to defend against worst case scenarios...

Have hidden weapons, hidden contingency plans, contact numbers and warning alert systems... Have predestined routes that would lead us to areas that we could better defend ourselves...

We could have different codes for different threats! Who knows how strong we could become! It will be FIGHT CLUB! lol only kidding, but it is a good example!

Like I have always said, I will never give up my guns, and if during martial law they try to take them, then it will sound like the 4th of july.

reply to post by sparda4355


Yes some sort of Protecting The People Society would be needed.

HEY we aren't sissies, we just smoke too much pot, and wouldn't be able to fire a gun if are life depended on it.

reply to post by tac109


AMEN!

It's in our blood! Look at what made us America to begin with... If politics screw up our country and corruption brings us to our knees, it's up to us "freethinkers" to build it back up! Through blood, sweat, and tears!

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