Need to make my soldier friend see the light!

there is an excellent 911 facts timeline by paul thompson here.

i have given the link to the 60 page version of verifiable facts but there are smaller page versions if you click on the link at the top. perhaps you should print this or another version out and give it to him to read. it is far more extensive than a video and if this doesn't convince him them nothing will

For 9/11 videos, Loose Change 2nd ed or Loose Change Final Cut are good... but 9/11 is just a small, too easily debatable part of what's going on. I recommend show him Alex Jones' Endgame or Terrorstorm, those should do the trick.

reply to post by BlueRaja


There's a shock.
Do you ever get tired of being a stooge?
Can you even percieve anything other than Hannity, Riley, or, Limbaugh?
Or is your purpose on this site just to instill utter distaste from anyone with a mind of their own that happens to pass by this site for #'s and giggles?
What serious putz.
And I don't care if I get a warning.

[edit on 26-2-2008 by morthn1waytoskinacat]

Originally posted by morthn1waytoskinacat
reply to post by BlueRaja

 

There's a shock.
Do you ever get tired of being a stooge?
Can you even percieve anything other than Hannity, Riley, or, Limbaugh?
Or is your purpose on this site just to instill utter distaste from anyone with a mind of their own that happens to pass by this site for #'s and giggles?
What serious putz.
And I don't care if I get a warning.

[edit on 26-2-2008 by morthn1waytoskinacat]

Have I ever cited any of the individuals you just mentioned to try to back my case up? I think for myself too, and while it may be difficult for you to wrap you mind around this- I have come to different conclusions than you.
Of course when I disagree with people, I don't throw tantrums, and start calling them names. My purpose here is to get people that "think for themselves" to think for themselves, by challenging inaccurate info, and poor logic.

reply to post by IMAdamnALIEN


Hey there, hows it going dude.

One of the best "easy going" vids i've seen on 911 is...

911 COINCIDENCES

YouTUBE search list

PART ONE

PART TWO

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PART NINETEEN

Some are only 2 or so minutes long, others are upto 10 minutes.

there are NINETEEN PARTS. And i found ALL to be fairly interesting.

Cheers dude
Enjoy

AoN

Originally posted by Equinox99
Look your friend loves his nation so much that he is willing to not believe what you say about 9/11. Leave him alone, not everyone wants to hear that the US government was in with the 9/11 crew, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. It is hard for some people to take in disappointments, so instead of doing that they just
ignore it and hope it goes away.

It's not that he doesn't believe he has just been trained... Anyone in his possition would have a duty when over there and they would carry out any orders given. I would imagine it would take a while to get your mind straight with the simple life again? Yes and people do live in little comfort bubbles... Also known as the blind?

Probably the best thing to do is recommend some videos or sites which he can research himself and never say anything to him about it again. The evidence should do the convincing, not you. No one will believe anything that they don't arrive at for them self.

I have a friend in the Navy, actually he WAS a career Navy man, but he didn't resign after his last deployment. So, he's no longer in the Navy as of a month ago. Anyway, he was hardcore, "I support my boss". But, he started to see some of the Ron Paul posts I was putting up and I guess he looked into him. He's a die-hard Ron Paul supporter now. I'm introduced him to Zeitgeist with the understanding that some of the information was controversial and I didn't buy into ALL of it (intentionally leaving out the part that I didn't buy into). I didn't want to mention anything about 9/11 to him - though I believe it was mostly an inside job. With some of his recent post, I think he full-heartedly believes that the administration had A LOT to do with the attacks.

He arrived at the conclusion himself. I believe if I would have tried to convince him, he'd be one of the biggest debunkers out there. You have to know this guy to understand that point. But, I think if you've just recommend information and let him bring up his own ideas before you discuss theories. Otherwise, you'll end up with the opposite of your intentions.

reply to post by justyc


Thanks for the link!

Maybe what Ill do is show him the list and a documentary.

When he comes by today, Ill let you guys know how it all went.

Thanks for the replies people!

Great stuff here

reply to post by Anomic of Nihilism


Thanks for the links my friend!

Maybe what Ill do is just show him this thread I made about him

There is some pretty convincing evidence here.

I want pretty pictures though

He is a visual type of guy.

I will let you guys know what he thinks, maybe even get an interview and post some quotes if he doesn't mind.

He has seen a lot, I sure from what he has heard on the inside plus the videos/links I will show him, should be a pretty good debate.

I would look at both sides of the argument before your debate. Even if he does not agree with you, don't let that affect your friendship. Just agree to disagree. Here are some sites that present both sides of the argument. Good luck.

www.debunking911.com...

www.loosechangeguide.com...

www.debunk911myths.org...

www.911truth.org...

This subject gets me soooo damned angry at the government.

THEY MURDERED 3000 PEOPLE

TOOK THEM AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES

LIED TO THEIR FACES

JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL!!!!!

I completely forgot about this!!!!!!!

This is another nail in the coffin for the "evil doer's"

3 different broadcasting companies reporting WTC7 collapse before it happens!

How can those b-tards get away with this?

In front of everyone to see!

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Fox
CNN
BBC

M U R D E R E R S........You.........M U R D E R E R S

I can't believe what I'am reading here. TO THINK people actually BELIEVE
that 911 was staged is unthinkable.Espically the BUSH family.There in the OIL BUSSINESS for god sakes. Theve got money. With 911 the markets went south. There was no civilian plaves flying, Look at the loss revenue.
People with money don't stick a knife in there backs.

And to have a friend who is in the US Military, thank god you have such good outstanding PATRIOTIC friends. To argue this fact with anyone is unthinkable.
Give him a hero's welcome he's been serving our country. God Bless Him.
To think he's been killing inicent people. You don't have the right to question that fact unless you've been there.
I haven't. The Military wouldn't take me. I've tried, however members of my family have.
Where are all the good Americians, oh yea there working.

9-11 myth part 1

9-11 myth part 2

9-11 myth part 3

9-11 myth part 4

I like that series. It's short, it's to the point, and it's convincing. I'm not too sure where it's from.

reply to post by IMAdamnALIEN


I think building 7 is the smoking gun.

a - Building 7 collapse without being hit by a plane.
b - Buildings that are damage by debis and collapse seldom go straight down.


[edit on 26-2-2008 by ixiy]

reply to post by barmshadow84


OMG!

I feel for you man!

Someone shine some light into this mans eyes.

Are you breathing sir?

Pupils dilated....

Applying shock paddles....

CLEAR

Its going to be alright my friend.

WAKE UP!

[edit on 26-2-2008 by IMAdamnALIEN]

reply to post by BlueRaja


No it may not have been neccesary for the steel to melt, but it did.

Liquid steel, well, what became iron after the thermite reaction was found flowing underneath WTC!, 2, and 7, 6 weeks after 9/11.

Explain that one.

This point also crushes your last 2 points as well. Cause there were other things burning inside the towers you say/ Well there was nothing in those toweres that could have burned hot enough to turn the sub basement into a lava flowing foundry for 6 weeks.

In a nutshell, I'd show your friend this video it's simple, and to the point, factual, and at the Very least shows there was some sort of cover-up of evidence by the U.S government, which equal a conspiracy.

video.google.com...

View the video yourself, its not long, but the images in it will stick with you, and your friend for a very long time. Being that this video is based on science and fact, and not oponion, is why I think it's one of the strongest. Still, even though it's quite old.



[edit on 26-2-2008 by Nola213]

reply to post by Nola213


Very nice,

Watching now....

I just watched this presentation by Richard Gage. It was really good and i would really recommend it if he wants good old non-twisted facts

video.google.com...

Yea I agree with you ixiy, it takes alot of effort to make a 47 story sky scaper come down, and not do extensive (yes I know buildings 15yards away were slightly damaged), but it takes Experts to bring down an enourmous building like this surounded by building all with 15-20 yards of it, and not cause those building to be damaged beyond repair.

When a buildings this size collapse during an earthquake or land/mudslide, and what have you, they can destroy an entire city block if not more.

Think about that olgame jenja, and how that structure would topple over to which ever size and continue to fall almost the same distance as it was high.

Thats what should have happened to the near 500 foot tall sky scraper that supposedly fell because of ejected material from WTC, and severe fires which cause a gouge in one of the BOTTOM corners of the building. This is the official cause of it falling. Well then it should have toppled over to that side like a tree being chopped down.