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Leaked images of Nibiru orbited by Planet X taken by South Pole Station Telescope

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posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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If I may answer on behalf of BiblicalBeliever ( and perhaps others) there are plenty of reliable sources other than Sitchin regarding Planet X.
There is Youtube, GLP forums and ZetaTalk….

Really people! I am sure if there was another planet/sun /object we would know about it from sources other than fantasy sites. Our civilization is advanced enough to come to terms with new information when it is presented to us. There is no need for any government to keep us in the dark.. Even if the USA/NASA didn’t want the info released there are enough countries who don’t like the US and with astromical knowhow to spot it and inform the world out of spite if nothing else.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Double post....Please accept my sincere and humble apology

[edit on 14/4/2008 by VIKINGANT]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by VIKINGANT
If I may answer on behalf of BiblicalBeliever ( and perhaps others) there are plenty of reliable sources other than Sitchin regarding Planet X.


No you may not
All those sources took their info from Sitchin... so don't count





Originally posted by VIKINGANT
Really people! I am sure if there was another planet/sun /object we would know about it from sources other than fantasy sites.


Okay how about Kobe University Japan?


From Xfacts...



What is the latest research for the discovery of a planet X? The Japanese found something?

Recently in 2008, Japanese Astronomers at Kobe University lead by Dr. Mukai have plotted a planet with a diameter at least the size of earth should exist in our solar system on a highly elliptical orbit.

This once again raises the Astronomical community eye to the question of a planet x, another planet in our solar system beyond Pluto.


xfacts.com...


From Jason Martell:
I contacted Dr. Mukai to ask about the size of Planet X he was projecting. He was kind enough to share this information below.

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Dear Jason Martell-san,

Thank you for sending me information.

(Answer from Mukai) Its diameter is expected as 10,000-16,000km (rougly the same
as the size of earth). Other details for Planet X is shown in the web site at www.org.kobe-u.ac.jp... Unfortunately, most of the news in Japanese, but you can get more from PDF file in item 1).

Best regards. Tadashi Mukai


xfacts.com...

Orbit...


University website In Japanese...
www.org.kobe-u.ac.jp...

Existing ATS Thread on this posted by a newbie who was attacked immediately ... please show support and welcome by flagging


Scientists discover solar system's 'Planet

80 page report Accepted to The Astronomical Journal – 11/Dec/2007
harbor.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp...

There you go a non fantasy site... from an accredited university





[edit on 15-4-2008 by zorgon]



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:46 AM
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Why are all the pictures from before 2004? I think that if this were as visible as the photo's claim, and most are from 2002-2003, and it is 2008 now, surely we could see something from this year, and the object would be much more visible now, so where are all those pictures? A lot of ametuers are on the site link , so none of them are taking pictures anymore? What up man?



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:54 AM
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True. I have always said there is a great possibility of at least one if not more planets being found in the outer limits of our solar system. I have also seen the articles and many threads about the Japanese discovery and am very excited about the prospect.
This thread however is about the fabled NIBIRU and fact it has been kept secret (Hence ‘leaked’ images).
The orbit in the pic you showed although ‘highly elliptical’ does not seem to show it as being a rogue planetstar coming within kill range of earth. Nor does it suggest a ‘mini solar system’ as the OP and thread title does.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 12:58 AM
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Well I am looking for Planet X... and I see many like Eris that qualify

As to a planet destroying rouge Brown Dwarf or Planet Nibiru.. that's Sitchin's 'bread and butter'



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 04:41 AM
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There you go a non fantasy site... from an accredited university


You do realise that those articles are all theoretical ? In other words, no such object has yet been discovered ? Those guys at Kobe University have not proved that Nibiru exists. They have simply suggested the possibility that a relatively large planet might exist in the extreme outer solar system, based on the aphelia of certain comets, and the structure of the Kuiper Belt.

You will also notice that the diagram of this object's orbit shows the perihelion (closest approach to the Sun) to be way beyond the outer edge of the Kuiper Belt. In other words, this theoretical planet is predicted to come no closer to the Sun than twice the distance of Neptune !

How exactly does that equate with all of this Nibiru nonsense ?



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 04:50 AM
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there was a video on the infallable (
) youtube yesterday,claiming to have some more sattelite images taken of PX. But it was removed before i had a chance to see it,as it "went against the rules" Wonder what it showed! (it wasn't posted by nibirushock2012 either)



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 04:54 AM
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I totally agree with you on the whole NIBIRU issue but I think zorgan has clearly shown that the planet X he is talking about and Nibiru are different

Well I am looking for Planet X... and I see many like Eris that qualify

As to a planet destroying rouge Brown Dwarf or Planet Nibiru.. that's Sitchin's 'bread and butter'


A missunderstanding has happened and I made the same mistake earlier.
this is not a 'lay off' staement. just a clarification...



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 05:26 AM
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Fair enough. I have no time for this Nibiru rubbish, but evidence for the existence of at least one relatively large object beyond the Kuiper Belt seems to be growing. That would be a very exciting discovery.



posted on Apr, 15 2008 @ 03:07 PM
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someone else has posted the youtube video I mentioned earlier. Just posting it so it can be seen/debunked. It's supposedly from some great telescope,and it's supposedly of one of the planets/moons round our "dark star"

uk.youtube.com...



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Mogget
You do realise that those articles are all theoretical ?


Theoretical?


Varuna 20000

Quaoar 5000

www.thelivingmoon.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Orcus - 2004DW

Eris, with Dysnomia: More Massive than Pluto

Sedna

Buffy: 2003 XR190z

2005 FY9

2003 EL61

2000 CR105

Theoretical?



Besides I don't see where it says the Japanese are LOOKING for Nibiru..



posted on Apr, 17 2008 @ 07:20 AM
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You're right -- these other bodies DO exist, and there ARE probably more...

...but the fact remains that ALL of these bodies have been observed and located. The Japanese have NOT observed or located anything yet -- all they have is calculations showing that a large body may exist, but it has yet to be "found". That's why this is still all theoretical.

Having said that, the Japanese calculations are exciting, and it's quite possible something may be found near that calculated orbit someday.

The existence of Neptune was calculated 25 years before it was officially discovered by observation in 1846 (note: it was actually observed 100's of years earlier, but not identified as a planet, but a star). The discovery date is said to be 1846 when it was observed and identified as a planet, not the date 25 years earlier that its existence was calculated. Until Neptune was observed in 1846 it was still theoretical.

[edit on 4/17/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Apr, 18 2008 @ 04:20 AM
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Theoretical?


I am referring to the object that those Japanese scientists have suggested exists, based on the structure of the Kuiper Belt and the scattered disk. There is every possibility that such a large planet does exist, but it hasn't been discovered yet.

I am well aware of the existence of those other large objects in the outer Solar System. However, they are not massive enough to directly influence the size and shape of the Kuiper Belt, and therefore can't sensibly be referred to as "Planet X".


[edit on 18-4-2008 by Mogget]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by KATSUO
The thing that makes it seem highly un-likely to me
is that we have this huge star with planets/moons orbiting
in this wild orbit .. yet the rest of the solar system has nice
elegant orbits..
wouldnt the mass of these objects wreak havoc on the rest of the
planets?????

[edit on 2/23/2008 by KATSUO]


What if gravity is caused by electricity more than mass? I mean, mass has SOME effect, but it takes EM energy to "fuel" this effect. If you have a relatively uncharged body, its gravitational effect would be minimal.

To me, it seems morose that Jupiter would be so massive, and have so much gravity, yet remain gaseous. If it is "close to becoming a star", as i hear on Discovery all the time, then why does it not spiral into greater density?




[edit on 19-4-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 11:15 AM
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I am not convinced the pictures at the first post are real or that the person shopping them is sincere. I also notice that some links go to the zetatalk website which is totally discredited because Nancy Lieder told everybody that Planet X was Nibiru and that it would bypass us in 2003. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[edit on 4-19-2008 by groingrinder]



posted on Apr, 19 2008 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
What if gravity is caused by electricity more than mass?


Mr Furry... how about I mess up your day and toss gravity according to Newton on the scrap heap?



Recommended book...

Gravitational Force of the Sun
Pari Spolter

Email me your opinions when you check it out



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 10:05 AM
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Thanks for your comment VIKINGIANT...

As for zorgon, well it just shows that he has only read stichin's views, and has not done any further research.

As for me and the answer your so wanting zorgon... I've only seen diagrams (pictures) that stichin put out showing his basic belief on how something hit a planet and broke it in half and somehow became earth, which I'm completely against, so no, I have not read nor taken anything I've posted from stichin.

It's easy to pre-judge someone when you don't even take the time to look for yourself. All I see coming from you is stichin this, stichin that... easy to see why you think my views are based on a guy I don't even read about, but you obviously do.

As for proof of what I claim, look it up, I'm not your momma... stop flamin and start reading.



posted on Apr, 23 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
...To me, it seems morose that Jupiter would be so massive, and have so much gravity, yet remain gaseous. If it is "close to becoming a star", as i hear on Discovery all the time, then why does it not spiral into greater density?...

Jupiter (and all planets for that matter) are at what is called "Hydrostatic Equilibrium".

Hydrostatic equilibrium is basically when the force of gravity on a body is balanced by pressure acting in the opposite direction.

Basically Jupiter is the size that it is because of the balance between the matter that makes up the planet and the gravity of that matter. Since they are in equilibrium, Jupiter's gravity will NOT collapse its matter any further.

But why stop your question with Jupiter??...why doesn't the earth's Gravity Pancake the Earth's atmospere to the ground? In fact, one would think that the Earth's gravity could compress the Earth itself into a smaller size. Why doesn't it? The answer is that the Earth is also in Hydrostatic equilibrium. In fact Jupiter, the Earth, and other planets are the size they are because of the equilibrium between mass and gravity.

Bodies at hydrostatic equilibrium is what helps define them as planets. By one of the defining characteristics of a "Planet", a planet is a body that has sufficient gravity to overcome its own rigidity and assume hydrostatic equilibrium.

The concept is slightly different for rigid bodies and gaseous bodies, but the fundamentals are the same.



posted on Apr, 27 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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According to what I have read, the dating of the Mayan calendar has NOTHING to do with our Gregorian calendar. They knew the beginning date of the calendar as it was recorded by the Mayans on their temples, and simply counted the days from that point and came to precisely the date of Dec. 21 2012 on our calendar. They were not counting using flaky biblical dates which are not historically accurate..



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