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2012 - Safe places on Earth?
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reply to post by Anonymous ATS
I agree completely with with your philosophy. Our bodies are merely vehicles that our souls use to operate on this plane of existence. Our souls are eternal and exist and have existed for eternity with God, our Universal Father. We are so much more than what we appear to be. We are here to learn, to help each other, and to spiritually evolve through our experiences while on this plane. IMO, our lives here are merely a form of spiritual "boot camp" and that our true home and existence is with God. However, I also believe all life is a gift and we should value it no matter what form it manifests, be it human, animal, palnt, or otherwise. That is part of the lesson we are here to learn.
I agree completely with with your philosophy. Our bodies are merely vehicles that our souls use to operate on this plane of existence. Our souls are eternal and exist and have existed for eternity with God, our Universal Father. We are so much more than what we appear to be. We are here to learn, to help each other, and to spiritually evolve through our experiences while on this plane. IMO, our lives here are merely a form of spiritual "boot camp" and that our true home and existence is with God. However, I also believe all life is a gift and we should value it no matter what form it manifests, be it human, animal, palnt, or otherwise. That is part of the lesson we are here to learn.
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
I agree completely with with your philosophy. Our bodies are merely vehicles that our souls use to operate on this plane of existence. Our souls are eternal and exist and have existed for eternity with God, our Universal Father. We are so much more than what we appear to be. We are here to learn, to help each other, and to spiritually evolve through our experiences while on this plane. IMO, our lives here are merely a form of spiritual "boot camp" and that our true home and existence is with God. However, I also believe all life is a gift and we should value it no matter what form it manifests, be it human, animal, palnt, or otherwise. That is part of the lesson we are here to learn.
I agree completely with with your philosophy. Our bodies are merely vehicles that our souls use to operate on this plane of existence. Our souls are eternal and exist and have existed for eternity with God, our Universal Father. We are so much more than what we appear to be. We are here to learn, to help each other, and to spiritually evolve through our experiences while on this plane. IMO, our lives here are merely a form of spiritual "boot camp" and that our true home and existence is with God. However, I also believe all life is a gift and we should value it no matter what form it manifests, be it human, animal, palnt, or otherwise. That is part of the lesson we are here to learn.
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy
No, I haven't, but The Gaia Project sounds like something I would be very interested in learning more about. Can you explain it in more detail and/or point me in the right direction? I would be very grateful.
No, I haven't, but The Gaia Project sounds like something I would be very interested in learning more about. Can you explain it in more detail and/or point me in the right direction? I would be very grateful.
Originally posted by flyingtigers
reply to post by stereologist
Well dude, I see this is useless having an intelligent discussion with you,[ WHAT PART OF THE GOVERMENT DO YOU WORK FOR].Abnormal high tides unable to be explained by any ocean science..Stronger and more frequent hauling his butt out of danger, and can't be reached for comment.
edited out the blah blah blah usual BS
How is it that if someone disagrees with you guys they work for the government
You get freak weather patterns all the time maybe you have not be alive long enough to have lived through a few.
Lets see who has the biggest helping of HUMBLE PIE in front of them in 2013
[edit on 5-7-2010 by wmd_2008]
reply to post by Unity_99
Just because the weather is not the same as before does not mean a thing. I would be thinking something was up if the weather was the same as last year and the year before.
Just because the weather is not the same as before does not mean a thing. I would be thinking something was up if the weather was the same as last year and the year before.
Here's what I did after reading a few books about the most stable places in the world and I found it most interesting:
1. Print a map of the world on an 8 1/2 x 11 white sheet of paper in color.
2. On 8 1/2 x 11 clear, printable transparencies (available at staples for overhead projectors), print the following on one transparency each:
-- a. major earthquake fault line
-- b. major volcanoes
-- c. nuclear power plants
-- d. mountains
Print each of the above 4 items in one solid color for each.
Then, lay one on top of another, and notice the areas that are clear of the above.
As a note of caution, not all mountains are safe. Over the history of the Earth, mountains rise and fall again. Take note of which ones are most likely on their way down, and stay clear.
After finishing the above, you will end up with only 6 - 8 areas in the world. And some of which are completely ridiculous to even consider -- such as Madagascar -- due to the primitive conditions and rampant diseases.
This should give you a good idea of where to go if one is really considering moving to a "safe" area.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by lpowell0627]
1. Print a map of the world on an 8 1/2 x 11 white sheet of paper in color.
2. On 8 1/2 x 11 clear, printable transparencies (available at staples for overhead projectors), print the following on one transparency each:
-- a. major earthquake fault line
-- b. major volcanoes
-- c. nuclear power plants
-- d. mountains
Print each of the above 4 items in one solid color for each.
Then, lay one on top of another, and notice the areas that are clear of the above.
As a note of caution, not all mountains are safe. Over the history of the Earth, mountains rise and fall again. Take note of which ones are most likely on their way down, and stay clear.
After finishing the above, you will end up with only 6 - 8 areas in the world. And some of which are completely ridiculous to even consider -- such as Madagascar -- due to the primitive conditions and rampant diseases.
This should give you a good idea of where to go if one is really considering moving to a "safe" area.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by lpowell0627]
reply to post by stereologist
You are entitled to ignore all the warnings you want, but you will be controlling others to do so, nor do you speak for all scientists or all reason, for instead there is a lot of diverse information and statistics showing discrepancies from the standard viewpoints.
The weather is a big big issue, its screwed up and our crops depend on it, Russian Scientists have been saying for a long time that this "global warming" is happenign throughout the solar system as if we are entering a place in the galaxy that is more energy, even speculation that I read that we could be entering into a star forming. Russia has a lot more scientists revealing warnings than our scientists.
I think pretending all is well and trying to get people to stop worrying, not to plan for survival, and definitely don't screw up the work week and the income the elites are making off of us to pad their luxury bases, and please don't panic, is written all over your posts. Seems like a real agenda to me.
While I am very concerned that we envision freedom and a safe, upgraded world, and calm disasters with our intentions and thought, nonentheless, people need to really educate themselves,and be prepared for anything and everything.
In addition, I think they really need to investigate and prove to themselves there are no bases, by going to these spots by the millions (ie. Colorado International Airport) and really looking for themselves, its time for them to prove it to themselves. Cold Lake is one, well we can make a list. Because panic aside, if there are padded bases and railtrains down below two things need to happen 1)reccue the ones that need to be set free held prisoners down below and 2) WE NEED TO GET FURIOUS AND REALLY THROW A FIT KINIPTCHIN.
And you have no right to stop people from researching, questioning, using their minds for that is what they are truly for, and overturning lying leaders if necessary.
Edit to add: The thing I have been told about relating to why all those bases have been built by someone who's uncle is amongst the 100 wealthiest men on this planet, is that we are going to be facing a pole shift. Now, its already happenign, however, what will determine its effect (ie. historically pole shifts have occurred over thousands of years, or suddenly rapidly, and violently which in turn always become crustal, in addition some have reverted and returned to their original place.)
Pole shifts are in the core, and what affects the core is planetary allignments, astroids, comets, energy, solar flares, ie. cme's, in fact an huge allignment was responsible for Mount St. Helen's erruption.
Aside from an enormous planetary allignment that is supposed to occur roughly around 2012, even taking all the planet x stuff out of the picture, then what we are in the hands of is, cme's??? energy??? comets???
My friend told me that this is going to cause the planet to tip.
There are many people determined to hold light over this and ensure it does not happen.
The bases in Colorado, include one that the Royal Family has built, this was widely rumored some time ago. If this planet tips or a strong crustal event takes place, certain things have already been pre-determined. (I think they must have put it through some pretty big computer simulations myself). That canada will be closer to the equator. That when we all disappear in the night, as they really really want us to, they will emerge from Colorado bases into balmy weather. I DONT THINK SO.
That, the coastal lines along the west coast of canada., like Africa, is expected to rise up several thousand feet. Not a good place to be. That not all mountains are going to be safe. That volcanoes are going to errupt as well. That massive flooding will of course happen.
So this would be what I would call a WORSE case scenario.
This information is actually coming forth from the masons, the bloodlines, the leaders, the corporate heads, and my question is, why are they creating this body of information, informing people of things that are lies, painting up the Colorado airport and why are they paying off the musicisans to put these ideas in their music and videos.
ERA - Miseri Mani
The blind girl is humanity. The water pouring over her face = the age of Aquarius or the Great Deluge. Her insight, or inner sight opens and she pays attention to all the warnigns and legends of old and sidesteps the danger.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by Unity_99]
You are entitled to ignore all the warnings you want, but you will be controlling others to do so, nor do you speak for all scientists or all reason, for instead there is a lot of diverse information and statistics showing discrepancies from the standard viewpoints.
The weather is a big big issue, its screwed up and our crops depend on it, Russian Scientists have been saying for a long time that this "global warming" is happenign throughout the solar system as if we are entering a place in the galaxy that is more energy, even speculation that I read that we could be entering into a star forming. Russia has a lot more scientists revealing warnings than our scientists.
I think pretending all is well and trying to get people to stop worrying, not to plan for survival, and definitely don't screw up the work week and the income the elites are making off of us to pad their luxury bases, and please don't panic, is written all over your posts. Seems like a real agenda to me.
While I am very concerned that we envision freedom and a safe, upgraded world, and calm disasters with our intentions and thought, nonentheless, people need to really educate themselves,and be prepared for anything and everything.
In addition, I think they really need to investigate and prove to themselves there are no bases, by going to these spots by the millions (ie. Colorado International Airport) and really looking for themselves, its time for them to prove it to themselves. Cold Lake is one, well we can make a list. Because panic aside, if there are padded bases and railtrains down below two things need to happen 1)reccue the ones that need to be set free held prisoners down below and 2) WE NEED TO GET FURIOUS AND REALLY THROW A FIT KINIPTCHIN.
And you have no right to stop people from researching, questioning, using their minds for that is what they are truly for, and overturning lying leaders if necessary.
Edit to add: The thing I have been told about relating to why all those bases have been built by someone who's uncle is amongst the 100 wealthiest men on this planet, is that we are going to be facing a pole shift. Now, its already happenign, however, what will determine its effect (ie. historically pole shifts have occurred over thousands of years, or suddenly rapidly, and violently which in turn always become crustal, in addition some have reverted and returned to their original place.)
Pole shifts are in the core, and what affects the core is planetary allignments, astroids, comets, energy, solar flares, ie. cme's, in fact an huge allignment was responsible for Mount St. Helen's erruption.
Aside from an enormous planetary allignment that is supposed to occur roughly around 2012, even taking all the planet x stuff out of the picture, then what we are in the hands of is, cme's??? energy??? comets???
My friend told me that this is going to cause the planet to tip.
There are many people determined to hold light over this and ensure it does not happen.
The bases in Colorado, include one that the Royal Family has built, this was widely rumored some time ago. If this planet tips or a strong crustal event takes place, certain things have already been pre-determined. (I think they must have put it through some pretty big computer simulations myself). That canada will be closer to the equator. That when we all disappear in the night, as they really really want us to, they will emerge from Colorado bases into balmy weather. I DONT THINK SO.
That, the coastal lines along the west coast of canada., like Africa, is expected to rise up several thousand feet. Not a good place to be. That not all mountains are going to be safe. That volcanoes are going to errupt as well. That massive flooding will of course happen.
So this would be what I would call a WORSE case scenario.
This information is actually coming forth from the masons, the bloodlines, the leaders, the corporate heads, and my question is, why are they creating this body of information, informing people of things that are lies, painting up the Colorado airport and why are they paying off the musicisans to put these ideas in their music and videos.
ERA - Miseri Mani
The blind girl is humanity. The water pouring over her face = the age of Aquarius or the Great Deluge. Her insight, or inner sight opens and she pays attention to all the warnigns and legends of old and sidesteps the danger.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by Unity_99]
reply to post by gaiagirl
It is a book I read recently that was written by Hwee-Yong-Jang
the book is in a short an explanation of how to accept the events that are to unfold in the next few years. All humans are of a certain frequency and when the time comes each soul if you will, will then ascend to their place of origin. And when this "change" to the earth occurs, Being of cataclysmic nature,it would be easier for the evolution of the soul to do so willingly.
the book is in a short an explanation of how to accept the events that are to unfold in the next few years. All humans are of a certain frequency and when the time comes each soul if you will, will then ascend to their place of origin. And when this "change" to the earth occurs, Being of cataclysmic nature,it would be easier for the evolution of the soul to do so willingly.
reply to post by flyingtigers
Is it useless? Your claim is that it "is useless having an intelligent discussion with you". I think you can learn to do research. I think you can learn to check facts before making false claims. I think you can do it. Don't you?
You have done nothing but making a list of unsubstantiated claim. None of what you post appears to be true. There may be something to what you say, but your lack of corroborating evidence makes it difficult o figure out where you went wrong.
Please learn how stunningly wrong you are and that will enable you to begin the process of learning.
Is it useless? Your claim is that it "is useless having an intelligent discussion with you". I think you can learn to do research. I think you can learn to check facts before making false claims. I think you can do it. Don't you?
You have done nothing but making a list of unsubstantiated claim. None of what you post appears to be true. There may be something to what you say, but your lack of corroborating evidence makes it difficult o figure out where you went wrong.
Please learn how stunningly wrong you are and that will enable you to begin the process of learning.
reply to post by Unity_99
If there is "diverse information and statistics showing discrepancies from the standard viewpoints", then why haven't you been able to show any of them? Why have you resorted to posting hoaxes and fiction such as incoming planets, pole shifts, and other false claims?
You claim that Russian scientists are revealing more warning is another unsubstantiated claim. That's not true.
Your talk of preparing for an event that you are unable to provide evidence for is getting silly isn't it? It's beginning to sound a lot like chicken little and the sky is falling. What we need is the deductive reasoning to understand the fallacy of these claims and end the nonsense.
This is the sort of comment I'd expect from a disinfo agent.
I am not here to stop people from doing research. I demand that research be done. I have demanded that you provide the evidence for your claims and in ALL cases you have failed.
Again with these imaginary pole shifts. Do the research unity_99 and learn that pole shifts have not happened in 200 Ma except possibly for the contested event 84Ma. Pole shifts are slow and take millions of years to complete.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by stereologist]
If there is "diverse information and statistics showing discrepancies from the standard viewpoints", then why haven't you been able to show any of them? Why have you resorted to posting hoaxes and fiction such as incoming planets, pole shifts, and other false claims?
You claim that Russian scientists are revealing more warning is another unsubstantiated claim. That's not true.
Your talk of preparing for an event that you are unable to provide evidence for is getting silly isn't it? It's beginning to sound a lot like chicken little and the sky is falling. What we need is the deductive reasoning to understand the fallacy of these claims and end the nonsense.
And you have no right to stop people from researching, questioning, using their minds for that is what they are truly for, and overturning lying leaders if necessary.
This is the sort of comment I'd expect from a disinfo agent.
I am not here to stop people from doing research. I demand that research be done. I have demanded that you provide the evidence for your claims and in ALL cases you have failed.
Again with these imaginary pole shifts. Do the research unity_99 and learn that pole shifts have not happened in 200 Ma except possibly for the contested event 84Ma. Pole shifts are slow and take millions of years to complete.
[edit on 5-7-2010 by stereologist]
reply to post by stereologist
Attention people of the real world; you can not reson nor discuss any thing on a subject of any kind,when the other person live's in Fantasy land, where nothing ever changes and can't see past the end of his/her nose to see what is happening in the real world, chicken little or not it doesn't take a graff or a bunch of hour's wasted posting research that you would denie even if it was 100 per fact right in front of your face..I have my info and have lived and travelled through out north america to see the huge and suddle changes taking place.
Have a nice day a wonderful life on your Island......The plane boss..The Plane...
Attention people of the real world; you can not reson nor discuss any thing on a subject of any kind,when the other person live's in Fantasy land, where nothing ever changes and can't see past the end of his/her nose to see what is happening in the real world, chicken little or not it doesn't take a graff or a bunch of hour's wasted posting research that you would denie even if it was 100 per fact right in front of your face..I have my info and have lived and travelled through out north america to see the huge and suddle changes taking place.
Have a nice day a wonderful life on your Island......The plane boss..The Plane...
reply to post by flyingtigers
I appreciate you admitting that what you claim is complete fantasy. There is a good reason you have posted nothing to back up any of your claims - they are hogwash.
I appreciate you admitting that what you claim is complete fantasy. There is a good reason you have posted nothing to back up any of your claims - they are hogwash.
reply to post by stereologist
thats exactly what i'm taking about...
thanks for posting the links for me.
evoL
thats exactly what i'm taking about...
thanks for posting the links for me.
evoL
I feel pretty safe in Washington State well away from our volcanoes.
If I'm screwed here then a hell of a lot of the rest of the world is worst off, but I would say somewhere where the people still live by their own means and rely on no electricity, commerce or technology. I’m sure the whole would could be screwed and some parts would continue on without a hiccup.
If I'm screwed here then a hell of a lot of the rest of the world is worst off, but I would say somewhere where the people still live by their own means and rely on no electricity, commerce or technology. I’m sure the whole would could be screwed and some parts would continue on without a hiccup.
Originally posted by gaiagirl
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
I agree completely with with your philosophy. Our bodies are merely vehicles that our souls use to operate on this plane of existence. Our souls are eternal and exist and have existed for eternity with God, our Universal Father. We are so much more than what we appear to be. We are here to learn, to help each other, and to spiritually evolve through our experiences while on this plane. IMO, our lives here are merely a form of spiritual "boot camp" and that our true home and existence is with God. However, I also believe all life is a gift and we should value it no matter what form it manifests, be it human, animal, palnt, or otherwise. That is part of the lesson we are here to learn.
well i definitly could not agree with you more. To be honest i cant wait for 2012. I used to be someone who was so far from believing the whole 2012 doomsday thing...it wasnt even funny. But recently i am becoming enlightened. Since i have been searching and studying i have been having the most amazing expierences. the answers are just being set in front of me everyday. My dads been trying to get me to move to Arizona since i moved to Cali ive been here for 4 years and sfter i had a CRAZY awakening i now know AZ is where i have to be and in this thread there was a post bout Phoenix meaning-rising out of the ashes and Arizona meaning dry place. Things are being confirmed to me left and right. Its time to move on to bigger and better things. I know my soul and mind is capable of doing way more than it is now. And yes 2012 will bring destruction but it will also be our awakening...to those who believe
reply to post by laceyknows
2012 is nothing more than a hoax.
I thought the only reason people moved to Phoenix was to enjoy taking part in traffic jams.
Have fun moving around for the hoax called 2012. In 2013 please let us know if the moves were worth the effort. Enjoy Arizona it's pretty place.
And yes 2012 will bring destruction but it will also be our awakening...to those who believe
2012 is nothing more than a hoax.
I thought the only reason people moved to Phoenix was to enjoy taking part in traffic jams.
Have fun moving around for the hoax called 2012. In 2013 please let us know if the moves were worth the effort. Enjoy Arizona it's pretty place.
Mountains safe? Maybe?
Mountains seems pretty safe, or inside the mountains, but not as safe if nearby a closer active or inactive volcano or a supervolcanoe.
Higher elevation but not too high, as it could be closer to solar flares, acidic rain and less oxygen.
How about a (bio)dome under the ocean, on a safer spot of the ocean floor?
Mountains seems pretty safe, or inside the mountains, but not as safe if nearby a closer active or inactive volcano or a supervolcanoe.
Higher elevation but not too high, as it could be closer to solar flares, acidic rain and less oxygen.
How about a (bio)dome under the ocean, on a safer spot of the ocean floor?
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