Strange Light/Object over the Bay Area [pics]

reply to post by ringing


But just one cloud in a cloudless sky is that normal ?

So maybe a contrail ok but read on.....

I cant stress how clear the sky was over my area and the sky looks pretty clear in this gentlemans pictures aswell.

I saw plane's flying over my area making contrails and this thing was nothing like them.

Hi internos would a plane change angle like that ?

And to the OP did you notice any other planes making contrail's in the area ?

Could you see the difference between them to this object ?

Any airport's close by ?

Take it easy.

Regards
Lee

[edit on 17-2-2008 by h3akalee]

reply to post by reject

I thought sundogs had to occur in a circle around the sun, ( not that the whole 360 degree arc would be filled in, but the sundog is supposed to be a fragmentary portion of said arc). So if this were a sundog, then a line drawn from the sun to the (sundog/questioned sky item) would look to be roughly/about/close enough perpendicular to the long axis of the (sundog/questioned sky item). And it doesn't seem so from the photos, to me, but the OP (and thanks for taking the trouble to show us these) should be able to tell us instantly if the long axis appeared to roughly fit a circle centered on the sun from his angle of view.

Originally posted by h3akalee


Hi internos would a plane change angle like that ?

Hi Lee:
THAT's exactly what's puzzling me.
I would expect a change of shape/density of the object in the case it would be a (necessarly) dissipating contrail, but of course i wouldn't expect a change of inclination with an almost unaltered shape.
Frankly i'm not convinced at all by the contrail theory, but i could be wrong. And it would be important, now, that the OP provides the coordinates and the direction of the place from which he took the photos, IMHO.


[edit on 17/2/2008 by internos]

I watch jets and their contrails all the time because I have read about the chemtrail theories. That is why I knew when I saw this light something was strange about it. It was not moving or progressing along at all like a plane usually does. Like I said earlier, it was pretty much just stuck there in the sky. We drove along with everyone on the bridge for awhile with that weird glowing light just hovering over the hills right there in front of us.

There are actually 3 aiports in the area SFO, OAK, and SJO.

Great pics doesn't look like anything I've seen in the sky in this area, from the ground or air.

Star and flag thanks.

*Goes out to watch the sky*



[edit on 17-2-2008 by ATruGod]

I have seen contrails like this but who knows, perhaps I saw UFOs?

I cant explain it, if I was you I would've parked somewhere and watched it for a while to see if it disapears or comes into view.

I've seen clouds like that before in the sky while it was SKC (sky clear). I did meteorology as part of my commercial pilot course and we discussed them in class, alas it was a while ago so I can't remember the proper name for them.
From memory they are a cirrus type cloud, very icy and thin as sometimes they are rainbow colours, I took photos of one in France which looked similar but was more 'oily' and rainbow coloured.

Here are some cloud types on Wiki

en.wikipedia.org...

edit: And to explain the movement - wind at those altitudes can be rather high speed

[edit on 17-2-2008 by GhostR1der]

I am not trying to deny your claims, but I see these daily driving home from work. My sister once rode with me and kept commenting on one. After she did, I was able to point out 4-5 more within the 15 minute journey. So unless there are MANY of these UFOs all across the country, its just a high-altitude contrail.

[edit on 2/17/08 by SantaClaus]

Originally posted by Diplomat
It was not moving or progressing along at all like a plane usually does. Like I said earlier, it was pretty much just stuck there in the sky. We drove along with everyone on the bridge for awhile with that weird glowing light just hovering over the hills right there in front of us.

Perhaps your movement in the car threw off your perception.

Just for fun, I animated your pics. The object is definitely moving across the sky...



Of course, that is NOT the actual speed of the object.

I'll have to agree with those who think it's a high-altitude contrail under lit by the sun. It also appears the plane changed direction during the series of snapshots.

Originally posted by Diplomat

The appearance of the light at first looked very similar to a contrail illuminated by the sunset. But what was strange was this light did not seem to move. It seemed to remain the same size/shape and position while we drove over the bridge, until it started to seem a little smaller before being covered by the rising hills.........



It appears to be moving downward in this sequence of pictures because the Earth was rotating upwards. I watched it the whole time and the light was not moving upward or downwards, it stayed in one position.

I have two questions for you, as I need some clarity on your exact meanings.

You say that it wasn't moving, yet you claim that it visually became smaller before being obscured by the mountains. You say the "rising mountains", what exactly do you mean by this? I know you must mean this figuratively, but could you explain this?

Second, you claim the Earth was rotating upwards and that is what caused the movement, and not the object itself moving downward. What do you mean by "Earth was rotating upwards"?

Just to let you know, falling objects do not fall in a straight line, the are pulled along on a curved path due to the Earth's Rotation and Curvature. Just because you see an object soar overhead and down towards the horizon does not mean it is falling either, as over the horizon simply means it has gone out of sight. The same goes for a falling object, as just because you see it soaring overhead and out of sight beyond the horizon does not mean it is not falling, as falling objects at high altitude can be seen for hundreds of miles, even farther, if at a high enough ALT.

Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen

You say that it wasn't moving, yet you claim that it visually became smaller before being obscured by the mountains. You say the "rising mountains", what exactly do you mean by this? I know you must mean this figuratively, but could you explain this?

Second, you claim the Earth was rotating upwards and that is what caused the movement, and not the object itself moving downward. What do you mean by "Earth was rotating upwards"?

Just to let you know, falling objects do not fall in a straight line, the are pulled along on a curved path due to the Earth's Rotation and Curvature. Just because you see an object soar overhead and down towards the horizon does not mean it is falling either, as over the horizon simply means it has gone out of sight. The same goes for a falling object, as just because you see it soaring overhead and out of sight beyond the horizon does not mean it is not falling, as falling objects at high altitude can be seen for hundreds of miles, even farther, if at a high enough ALT.

The Sun had just set in that area. When you watch the Sun set, the Sun isn't moving down, the Earth is moving (rotating) up, or I guess you could say we get pushed away from the Sun. The Sun is completely stationary, but it is us, the Earth, which moves. The light I was looking at was the same as the Sun in that sense.

My perception could have been altered slightly because I was in a moving vehicle, but like I said earlier, the object/light appeared to not really move at all, especially not up or down. It eventually got covered up by the hills because the Earth was rotating, just as it covered up the Sun a few minutes earlier.

i read this site daily because it always has me thinking and asking what if. but this post made me go ahead and register aside from all things posted here i have personally witnessed one of these things back in october 2004 in lancaster california. i lived there and in rosamond many years and got to see all the new planes being tested. but this isnt a contrail or a cloud its a mothership i watched one fly from north to south at a very slow rate of speed for about 45 minutes then it just disappeared in the blink of an eye. also when i was watching this thing there were about 10 to 20 small orb like ufos flying at a high rate of speed as if they were escorting it somewhere. the orbs were like a blueish white type of light someone try to find some in those pics i bet they are there. im no expert but these things are huge atleast a half a mile to 1 mile long. thats just my experience and me saying what i think it is. i know what i saw though. thanks for the pic op your not crazy or alone buddy.

reply to post by SantaClaus


Trust me i am the first to call it a load of bunkam but this for me is most certainly not bunkam.

Take care

Regards
Lee



[edit on 18-2-2008 by h3akalee]

I'm a little late to this discussion ... but thought I'd post anyway. I saw exactly the same thing driving from San Rafael, CA to San Francisco on Jan 2, 2008 around 8:00am (I remember the date, time because I had been dog-sitting for a friend in San Rafael and was returning to SF to get to work) . I didn't know what to make of it, but I've certainly never seen anything like it before. As far as I could tell it wasn't moving. The sky was clear except for this thing. I wondered if it could be a sliver of a cloud reflecting the sun, even though there were no clouds around it. No idea.

reply to post by Diplomat


My family also was watching that light, My husband swore it was the moon, I was on the passenger side and watched it the whole way traveling North on the San Mateo bridge. I had no camera with me.We watched this object the whole way across the bridge. My children and I saw were watching it and then suddenly a light almost like a spotlight shone towards us for a second and then the light went away. My ten year old said it looked just like a comet with an orange tail. It looked either like a tail or a triangle shape. I did not see it moving. This was near the airport and I saw a few jet planes go under it, I wonder if the pilots saw it. I looked at pictures on Google of a Contrail and this did not look anything like those pictures If a contrail is the trail of smoke behind a plane that's not what this was. I turned on the news when we got home and there was nothing about it so I started doing some searching online and this is the only post I saw about it. It could have been some sort of very high altitude aircraft and the sunset lit it from underneath but I did not see it moving. Not a cloud-for sure because of the spotlight.

I like that you can see it change angles.
I don't think its a weather balloon for the fact of the shape and the angles it makes.
Flight pattern and the fact it stays all together and the same shape discounts that it could be a cloud.

So now I'm scratching my head which is good because I can't find any other explanation than an unidentified craft!

Nice find man.

reply to post by Diplomat


If we knew what these ships were would we still stand there in awe.You bet.Cause Tesla was that sort of engineer to make those cartel ships.Neither US or Russia will destroy the Tesla technology so we will have it till the end. Keep on in amazement it can't hurt unless you hear too many explanations. It can't make you a bad person though.

Originally posted by icblue
Looks to me like a dissipating contrail lit from below due to the setting sun, but of course it could be anything else indeed.

That's exactly what it is. Any one of us could go out this evening at sunset as long as it's not cloudy and look into the West and get pictures of the same thing.

Man, this is such a worn-out topic. I can't believe people still think this is a UFO or aliens or whatever.

reply to post by Blue Shift

Exactly!

We regularly see this kind of misidentification here, similar examples:









And so on.....

reply to post by elevenaugust

what are they then? If it was a sundog then why did we see a light shine towards us and then turn direction? I have a family of 5 and we all saw it and I am not a believer in UFO's from outerspace but perhaps it was some military technology that we don't know about.