America NEEDS another civil war. The people VS the government.

All the issues that plague the once great nation of the USA, now reduced to what they have become by their own government.

People need to take matters into their own hands and FIX their country. Before they become so weak that someone comes in and takes it over.

reply to post by donk_316


Welcome to the DHS watchlist!

Incidentally, what you are proposing would be a second American revolution, not civil war. I don't mean to split hairs, but if you're going to do something I feel it's worth doing right. Agree?

Look out for the cargo vans parked near your house, ok?

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Except that the government is the people. See all those people ingovernment you hate, hate, hate? Someone else didn't hate htem, and they outvoted you. Chances are, they hate whoever you like. So hey, let's just kill everybody, because if Africa has taught us one thing, it's that thirty factions fighting for rulership of a country always comes out roses.

But don't let me stop you. You go ahead and lead the charge. Don't feel bad, but I'm going to be putting my bets on the side that has the 1.2 trillion military budget for that fight.

Originally posted by cbianchi513
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Incidentally, what you are proposing would be a second American revolution, not civil war. I don't mean to split hairs, but if you're going to do something I feel it's worth doing right. Agree?

You are absolutely correct. It would be a revolution. Not a civil war.

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I think I am in love. I especially agree with the bit about Africa, having been there/done that. I can only speak for Somalia, but the entire surrounding region is just one big "Charlie Foxtrot".

That's not what I want for my country. It'll work itself out.

Hi donk_316,

I agree that we have to do something to take back our freedoms and save this country. There are like-minded people such as us on other parts of the site: www.abovetopsecret.com...

What we need to do now is to gather these people together and form a plan, whether that is an organization, revolution, whatever...anything that would be remotely effective.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with just one step. Perhaps there are bigger groups who have the same intent but we need to search for them first and grow in influence.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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Except that the government is the people. See all those people ingovernment you hate, hate, hate? Someone else didn't hate htem, and they outvoted you. Chances are, they hate whoever you like. So hey, let's just kill everybody, because if Africa has taught us one thing, it's that thirty factions fighting for rulership of a country always comes out roses.

But don't let me stop you. You go ahead and lead the charge. Don't feel bad, but I'm going to be putting my bets on the side that has the 1.2 trillion military budget for that fight.

No. The government SHOULD be the people. The "elected" government is what you really wanted? Your next 3 picks are good ones!?

1.2 trillion dollar defence budget is almost laughable. How do you spend what you dont have?
How come 1.2 trillion dollars cant find a Saudi in a cave?
How come 1.2 trillion dollars takes 2 seperate wars to find someone in a bunker?

Rediculous how pompous some Americans are about their own illusionary perfect world.

Voting for Hillary are we? Carry on empty vessel.

Originally posted by wolfwood290
Hi donk_316,

I agree that we have to do something to take back our freedoms and save this country. There are like-minded people such as us on other parts of the site: www.abovetopsecret.com...

What we need to do now is to gather these people together and form a plan, whether that is an organization, revolution, whatever...anything that would be remotely effective.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with just one step. Perhaps there are bigger groups who have the same intent but we need to search for them first and grow in influence.

Noted. Ill read through it and see what the story is. Thanks for the link!

Anywhere conspiracy theories are spread we can recruit followers for they will know what is really going on. Also, we must not emerge in such a way for the government to deem us as "terrorists" and allow them to use that as an excuse to jumpstart martial law or strip away the few remaining freedoms that we have left...

First, understand that we have completely lost control of the administrative arm of government.

The legislative branch (Congress) are supposed to represent us and our interests. They don't. They have, in large part, been bought-up by corporations and special interests. The more senior the Congress-person the longer they have been being courted by interests other than'The People'.

One thing we as a People do have the ability to do is de-elect everyone in Congress. I don't care what your party affiliation (if you're still daft enough to believe it matters), just vote against EVERY incumbent. I reaalize there is an element of babay-and-the-bath-water here, but to make the message unmistakably loud and clear everyone must go! End the careers of these fat-cat politicians that have been selling us out for decades. Clean house and put some people in there that know going in, either they do the 'People's Business' or we kick them to the curb.

Arent Americans finally about tired of war?
How much do you need.

You fight the gov, and then you become that which you replace.
That which you resist - persist.

Peace

dAlen

Originally posted by donk_316
People need to take matters into their own hands and FIX their country. Before they become so weak that someone comes in and takes it over.

What would be the difference between "them" taking over and "you" taking over? I would like to assert my freedom and right to sit back and do nothing. Let me know how that civil war works out.

Once upon a time there was a great empire, with corrupt government, snobish elite and people with no voice.
Those who couldn't take it fought against the system , overthrew the opressors and had their freedom ....For several months ,that is.
Because the cruelest among them took the power for themself (using a convincing ideology) and in a short time there were:
A cruel bloody tyranny;
Then a degenerative geronthology;
And now they have a FSBology.
You see, in revolutions you know how to start, but you will never know how it ends.
Current government and elites are corrupt and you think you must stop it- the best contribution, as i think , will be to expose it as much as you can. Explain it to as many as you can. And , most important, sudgest an alternative.
This being said, i'm not an American. It is you country and your choice.

If we recruited people from Youtube, readers of Alex Jones, David Icke, and others, the amassed number will probably be in the tens of thousands. By talking to the moderators of these individual groups and gathering them together we could potentially have a very large portion of humanity united for a common goal.

Originally posted by donk_316
All the issues that plague the once great nation of the USA, now reduced to what they have become by their own government.

People need to take matters into their own hands and FIX their country. Before they become so weak that someone comes in and takes it over.

Not a civil war , but a revolution. The tyrant Government that is shredding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution needs te be dealt with in a fashion that will not be forgotten in 24-48hrs or Ignored by the media, such as they have done to Ron Paul..

Writing letters to a Senator or Congressman does very little except fill trash cans. Emails just get deleted. Get real , you actually believe phone calls or letters,Emails will have any effect on a politician who is bought and paid for by special interest groups and Corporations.

To a Politician we are just trash to be swept away and forgotten.
If People would actually take time to read the Constitution/Bill of Rights and then read the Patriot act 1 , Patriot act 2, they would see the light unlesss they are to Brainwashed/stupid to put 2 and 2 together.

Not a conspiracy but reality that we all shall face soon enough wether we want to or not.
When there is a Revolution those who said we were nutz /crazy will be like deer caught in headlights( eyes wide open ) saying WTF.

Wake up America .

Originally posted by wolfwood290
By talking to the moderators of these individual groups and gathering them together we could potentially have a very large portion of humanity united for a common goal.

And what, specifically, would that goal be? Other than, "get rid of the people currently in power," that is. Does somebody have a better plan? I haven't heard one.

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You might want to do a little more researching on tyrannies, before trying to equate our existence, with those who really have lived under tyrannies.
It devalues the word, when you use it to describe situations not even close to resembling, what is being claimed. Please cite an example of something you are unable to do now, in your day to day life.

Something being overlooked here is that it is quite probable that the PTB are themselves trying to foment a civil war or revolution in America. This will allow a total crackdown and implementation of totalitarion rule. I suspect they thought that the American public would have figured out the Con Job of Black Tuesday and be taking action by now, yet most of us still sleep the blissful sleep of ignorance even though the murderers themselves have been exposing themselves intentiomally.

Be careful where ye tread lest your actions be used against you by those you oppose.

You dont need a revolution, you just need to elect smarter presidents

Originally posted by donk_316
No. The government SHOULD be the people. The "elected" government is what you really wanted? Your next 3 picks are good ones!?

If you expect perfection from a system devised and run by imperfect beings, you're always going to be disappointed. I agree, we don't have the best government we could. The answer is to keep trying. Bloody revolutions don't work. Ask France. Ask Russia. Ask Cambodia. Ask Somalia.

1.2 trillion dollar defence budget is almost laughable. How do you spend what you dont have?
How come 1.2 trillion dollars cant find a Saudi in a cave?
How come 1.2 trillion dollars takes 2 seperate wars to find someone in a bunker?

The hell makes you think they're looking for the guy? And what does this have to do with the fact that the US military can decisively out-gun any civilian uprising?

Rediculous how pompous some Americans are about their own illusionary perfect world.

Really? 'Cause you seem to be the one expecting a perfect world.

Voting for Hillary are we? Carry on empty vessel.

We,, point of fact, I'm voting Obama. But I'd vote for a Huckleberry / Tancredo ticket before I agreed that domestic warfare is the answer to our problems.