The 2nd Coming of Christ

Apart from Ronald Weinald's predictions, which there have been many over the centuerys we don't know when for sure this will happen. We can only be ready, repent & ask JESUS to be your savore.
It's been told JESUS will return on a starless night:"pitch dark": Those that are saved will be taken all those that are left will be in tribulation.
At that moment those that are left will know for sure. Untill then and I hope everyone realizies what their descisions will do for them. I pray they choose wisely.


MOD EDIT, all caps and spelling in title

[edit on 10-2-2008 by DontTreadOnMe]

reply to post by barmshadow84


or you can go to florida and already see him

i forgot his name now, wonder what he has been up to

jesus de luiz garcia? or something

havent heard from him in awhile

he says there is no more sin, how does he explain death and disease?



weird that you mention hell return on a clear night as in a verse in revelation it says like stars that fell from the sky to earth, pretty crazy notice there

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reply to post by barmshadow84



When you accept Jesus within you, he returns. Just sayin'.

Starless night? Where does it say this? Regardless, when it is nighttime somewhere, it is broad daylight somewhere else. I have my suspicion (and suspicion only) that it seems the rapture would occur in the daylight hours for America and night time for the Eastern Hemipshere but it is only speculation on my part. America is a non entity according to the end times mentioned in the Bible so it would make sense it would occur while it would cause the most damage: when everyone is awake and moving around.

reply to post by AshleyD


haha you said rapture

jesus doesnt come til after the tribulation so there for how can he come for the people who are to be raptured?

its silly to think you are being raptured when even the chosen ones arent getting raptured

reply to post by AshleyD


But by your logic, one side is asleep (generally) and one is awake. It is a hidden rapture that is universal. Do not be deceived by thinking it will come at a certain day. It won't. It is within you Ash.

what you call tribulation, i call life without sensationalists.

what else do you bring besides a card-board sign that i've read countless times but have yet to see any proof besides generalizations and mindless recitations from a book that cannot be proven beyond being fictional?

I've hear it many times over the years preached by many Preachers, "He will come like a thief in the night". & the christians are already saved

reply to post by barmshadow84


if it was seriously that easy

saying you believe jesus died for you and knowing that in your heart are too different things, many christians wont be saved

i think the false hope of rapture will be there down fall

when a sentence uses the words "like", that means it is a metaphor. meaning, one should not take that sentence literally. other posters have already mentioned that other parts of the world do not experience night until our day. it is more likely the sentence implies that jesus will come unexpectedly, so you better behave.

it's pretty much the same technique used for children during christmas. you better be good or santa won't bring you any presents.

blackmailing at its finest.

reply to post by MurderCityDevil


Ok your right You don't have to just say you believe in Christ but that you DO HAVE TO ACCEPT CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOR,
I HAVE.
Have YOU

reply to post by MurderCityDevil


MCD I love you to death but I'm about as interested in debating the rapture as I am watching paint dry. Just read several more things today that convinced me even further that a pretribulation rapture is more of a possibility than previously believed on my part. I used to think it was nonsense, then possible, now highly probable.

reply to post by ben91069


Hello, Ben. Yes, I do think Jesus is within all believers but if I believe the Bible, which I do, then I also except a rapture that will occur on a specific day.

reply to post by MurderCityDevil



Many Christians believe in a literal rapture where they fly into the air to meet Jesus. This is simply not true. You are correct that they will be deceived in this way.

Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

reply to post by AshleyD


If it is a specific day, which I do not doubt, then it will be unknown to us until the moment it happens.

Originally posted by AshleyD
Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

these people are called dispensational premillenniallists.

Originally posted by AshleyD
Oh, and just a clarification: Christians who believe in a pretribulation rapture do not believe it is the same event as Jesus' second coming.

ok now im confused, what is your take on that whole subject ashley

you can U2U me if youd like, typing it here would be best so all can read, for years ive been telling my mom that there is no rapture at all

we will all be persecuted just like any other martyr i guess in a sense

how are we as humans worthy enough to be saved from the world

satan is the ruler of this world, he even offered it to jesus

so to say that we will be taken away just does not make sense

i dont feel im arguing, i was being snippy but i totally like to discuss this

reply to post by ben91069


I agree. We don't know when. That always made me a little jealous of first century believers because Jesus' first coming was predicted to the year but we get nothing but warning signs of the "times." So unfair!

wELL IT CAN BE DEBATED WHEN THINGS WILL OCCURE AND HOW.
But the important thing is that we as Christians make people think about repentance & help the non-believers, Show them they way. I do know that however the end happens or when, I'am ready, I know where I'am going.

Originally posted by barmshadow84
wELL IT CAN BE DEBATED WHEN THINGS WILL OCCURE AND HOW.
But the important thing is that we as Christians make people think about repentance & help the non-believers, Show them they way. I do know that however the end happens or when, I'am ready, I know where I'am going.

i am just asking for something new. why post to this forum, this place of ideas and thoughts, when all you mention are recycled and obvious shoutings that have been proclaimed by people for centuries?

most everyone knows about christian's belief in the second coming of christ. if you are really trying to do what you are wanting to do [converting people and all that jazz], you will need to bring logical and precise arguments for why anyone should believe in it, besides it being written down in a book that was from one limited and prejudiced culture.