Could the Catholic ROMAN EMPIRE.........!

Could it be possible..!

History shows The Vatican and the Roman Empire was controlling all Kindoms of the Old World Order since Hundreds of years.

i want to know your opinions..., all the power they had, could not had disappear, do you think it is just more hidden, to easely pull the strings
of global power.

Could the Catholic Roman Empire be the headquarter of the ILLUMINATI...!
and the underground base of the near futur, NEW WORLD ORDER...!

If you know something please, tell me....!

History shows The Vatican and the Roman Empire was controlling all Kindoms of the Old World Order since Hundreds of years.

True.

i want to know your opinions..., all the power they had, could not had disappear, do you think it is just more hidden, to easely pull the strings
of global power.

Yes.

Could the Catholic Roman Empire be the headquarter of the ILLUMINATI...!
and the underground base of the near futur, NEW WORLD ORDER...!

Yes, it could be. Or not.

If you know something please, tell me....!

As most of the people here, I also am one of those who have an OPINION on the subject. We all know bits of history and fit them together the best we can.

Happy riding.

Peace

There is all kind of conspiracy theorys on the illuminati
but the one who have the most probability the be real..... '' i think ''
base on history is the illuminati having so much power because
they are deep hidden behind the Catholic Roman Empire.

Could they be the fondation of the Catholic Roman Empire...

Rome, always hade power, they still do and they will, if the install the agenda
of a New World Order, a New World Empire...!

Could the Catholic ROMAN EMPIRE.........!
Be the headquarter of the ILLUMINATI....!

Could it be, the most plausible explanation.
do anyone have a theory on the illuminati...

Zeitgeist

The Ring of Power

ok, I'll throw you a bone...

Get this torrent file, download the show and enjoys. It's all about the Illuminati, secret government, etc, despite the title.
Trust me: if you usually bit your nails on something like this, after the 3 videos you'll have bitten you're arm off.

Then try to get back here after those 8 hours and tell us what you think about it.
That may be what you're looking for.

Peace

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Wow.....thanks Sator..... it is downloading.......i'll take a look at it and
i'll get back you all, on it.

i started, being interested in conspiracys when the false flag '' 911 '' happens.
After, it was about the Freemason, the illuminati etc. it looks endless
i thougth i knew the world.... but it look like i'm just in the begining of the
world's story.......

It all.. start to be a little more clear, when, 2 months ago, when i found that post
here at ATS... Since i saw that ** Fascinated Document ** my arms and jaw
fell down...! And my eyes went........Wide open....!

Thanks again Sator...i'll watch it all..
if you have more tell me please......!

Achilles 13

Originally posted by Achilles 13
Could it be possible..!

History shows The Vatican and the Roman Empire was controlling all Kindoms of the Old World Order since Hundreds of years.

i want to know your opinions..., all the power they had, could not had disappear, do you think it is just more hidden, to easely pull the strings
of global power.

Could the Catholic Roman Empire be the headquarter of the ILLUMINATI...!
and the underground base of the near futur, NEW WORLD ORDER...!

If you know something please, tell me....!

It is entirely possible and really the mostly likely. The Vatican is the woman who rides the Beast. The Holy See is a continuation of the hierarchy of power from the days of Babylon. One only needs to look at history support this argument. But as usual the truth gets buried amongst the noise.

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It is exacly what i thing to...!
yout way of saying it, sound even better..!

Thanks...nice post...deessell

movie time.......Let's get the popcorn.....

it's all downloded now, Sator, see ya in 8 hours.....lol

Someone told me about the films ** Secret mysteries of America's beginning **
but all i found is those 2 previews........!

Do anyone know where to find the entire movies....and if they are
as good as they seems.....

thanks.....
Achilles

Put it like this, if there was one leader position that the world would offer me to be in, i would rather be the pope than the president of the usa.

Thats my view on the subject, i do not think anyone should speak out against the church, so this thread is all unanswerable.

Honestly, if you look at history, we have been living in ignorance, particularly spiritually, since 325 A.D and the Nicean Council.. How does this come into play? Easy... The Nicean Council was essentialy established to create "agreement" within the Roman Empire...

Since it's establishment, the world has declined further and further into an abyss which it may never emerge.

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Since it's establishment, the world has declined further and further into an abyss which it may never emerge.

I agree with you there, the wrld is in a right mess. But slowly things are shifting maybe away from america.

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The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, and was vaugly associated with the Church.

The Pope himself may have had power, but that long since ended..

If your thinking the RC Church will rise again.. it wont. It will sooner die off.

Originally posted by andy1033
But slowly things are shifting maybe away from america.

America had absolutely nothing to do with the original origins of the deception which we see at play today.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
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The Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy, nor Roman, and was vaugly associated with the Church.

The Pope himself may have had power, but that long since ended..

If your thinking the RC Church will rise again.. it wont. It will sooner die off.

No, we are not talking about the RC Church. We are talking about the Holy See - the Sovereign Nation. You are wrong if you think that the Holy See has no power.

I have noticed your quick attempts to divert on other threads. I'm watching you.

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i really hope you are right......!

The Catholic roman empire had a Enormous power over the world in history

but Did it realy end or the roman power went underground to avoid
civilisations's rebellions again the power of the church and to easelly pull
the string of global power over the world....! using all corrupted Kindoms,
and powerful monarchy...!

I wonder if, maybe..., the Vatican, just does'n really care about the roman
church at all, and If the religion is only a tools, maybe it is only power,
they are interessed in.

If so, if they want power and they want to create, a one world government
,a One World Empire...i am affraid that they can destroy the Christian Church,
to creat a new, ** one world religion **. like i told you, this 8 pages document
is very extraordinary.... and it have a lot of Incontrovertible historical evidences...!

It really sound incredible, i know.., but it is so logical and plausible in the
same time and it would explain so many thing. I don't know....., i have to
continue my reseach.......

and Sator i am not done with the videos but for what i watched, it is very
interessting, good videos......i will finish watching it today and will get
back on it here with you all.....

Thank you all, together we can make light, once and for all on this conspiracy.....!

Achilles13

Originally posted by deessell

r.

I have noticed your quick attempts to divert on other threads. I'm watching you.

[edit on 8-2-2008 by deessell]

What makes you think Rockpuck would be defending the Roman Catholic church? He's a mason!!!

Behind the curtain....., there is a lot of coencidence...!

Oh, so the Masons are in cahoots with the RC now!!!??? The anti-Masonic bunk just gets funnier and funnier.

[edit on 8-2-2008 by SpeakerofTruth]

No, we are not talking about the RC Church. We are talking about the Holy See - the Sovereign Nation. You are wrong if you think that the Holy See has no power.

Ahem..... uh ...

The RC Church ... is the Holy See. The Holy See is .. the Pope. Or, the governing body of the Church.

I thought we where talking about the Church founding another Holy Roman Empire?

Also.. how is this .. Diverting a thread? Keep your eyes on me all you want mate, I enjoy the attention.

Achilles 13

Firstly, your connection with the RC Church and Masonry is hillarious.

The Catholic roman empire had a Enormous power over the world in history

No.. the Mother Church had enormous power. Dwindling and nothing compared to what it once was. The Holy Roman Empire was not a part of the Mother Church.. it was its own Kingdom. Its power was... not exactly all to powerful.. as I said, neither Roman, nor Catholic.. it was a German Empire, a combination of many states.

I wonder if, maybe..., the Vatican, just does'n really care about the roman
church at all, and If the religion is only a tools, maybe it is only power,
they are interessed in.

What? ... The Holy See IS the Catholic Church.. its not a imperialistic government, it IS the religion.

I am going to assume you are NOT Catholic what so ever... or maybe just very confused as to how it works.

All I know is that my father,God bless him, was Roman Catholic, and the Masons are in no way affiliated with the RC... It is amusing how anti-Masons will try to fit there preconceived notions in with what is currently going on. The RC, the real one, has been dead for at least the last 55 years... As far as the Masons being in cahoots with the RC of today, to me, that is laughable...