PROOF that Ancient Civilizations were as advanced as us!

If you want to learn a bit about Sumerian astronomy, see:
Sitchin's Astronomy Challenged

More on Sitchin from a non-mainstream author:
www.ianlawton.com...
and an astronomer
AN ASTRONOMER'S ANALYSIS OF THE AKKADIAN SEAL
Doug

From: "Bu Hao"
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, alt.archaeology
Date: 5 Mar 1999 07:58:09 GMT

Mystery of mysteries,
It's a wonder to relate-
The Mussolini monolith
Moved in nineteen twenty eight


'Twas a team of sixty oxen
That had moved the mighty weight
Just like Henry's massive statue
Set in place eighteen-o-eight


Then there was the Empress Catherine
With a stone twelve hundred tons
Dragged for miles on a sledge
But we've only just begun...


Tools were found at several sites
High-tech tools of stone and horn
Which cut out massive blocks of stone
'ere the first Pharaoh was born


The megaliths still bear the marks
Of these humble, fragile tools
Fifty thousand sites in Europe
Still marveled at by fools...

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I'm sure there's some sort of purpose to this, but it eludes me at the moment.

Care to explain?

As far as I'm concerned, Doug Weller is the best thing that has ever happened to this forum. This section anyway.

Welcome back Doug, I haven't seen you around here in a while.

Hope you stay for a while - or at least visit more often.

Everybody here would do well to visit Doug's site - you'll find the link in his sig.

BTW, hilarious poem Doug.

The rhymes were not wasted on me, nor several others here - Merka and Cormac, to name a few.

Harte

I concur, glad to see someone else telling it like it is. Great poem, sadly true. Thanks Doug.

I hope we'll be hearing more from Doug in the future.

cormac

[edit on 20-2-2008 by cormac mac airt]

Originally posted by Doug Weller
From: "Bu Hao"
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, alt.archaeology
Date: 5 Mar 1999 07:58:09 GMT


Selling "mysteries" is too lucrative
For those jerks to tell the truth
Do a half an hour's research
And I think you'll find the proof
Kindly send your hate by e-mail
'Cause I'm finished with this thread
It's a waste of time to argue
With the hopelessly brain-dead...


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We PREFER to be called "Intellectually Challenged."

Well said Doug..... That is why this site is on my "C" list and I visit only once in awhile.

Looks like just a drawing to me.They could have just put dots with no meaning.

If they were advanced they were also clearly horrible at art.

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Interesting bit of 'poetry', but I think Shelley, that poet who loved the mysteries more than anything, said it best of all;

OZYMANDIAS
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I met a traveler from an antique land,
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

1792-1822

www.geocities.com...

I make my return to ATS in your thread,
I wish to make you aware that not only did they have knowledge of astrology,
they also had knowledge of astro-physics,
The sumerian civilisation for starters knew that Uranus was on a tilted axis,
But not only did they know this, they also created several theories as to why it was on such a tilted axis,
One such theory was that a massive planetary body may of passed through this solar system at some point and may of been close enough to uranus for the gravity's to work against eachother.
However, Just because they had such knowledge does not mean they understood it,
There have always been hidden reason behind how humans discover things

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
I make my return to ATS in your thread,
I wish to make you aware that not only did they have knowledge of astrology,
they also had knowledge of astro-physics,
The sumerian civilisation for starters knew that Uranus was on a tilted axis,
But not only did they know this, they also created several theories as to why it was on such a tilted axis,
One such theory was that a massive planetary body may of passed through this solar system at some point and may of been close enough to uranus for the gravity's to work against eachother.

I, of course, dispute this.

Do you have any reason for holding such a wild belief?

Harte

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
I make my return to ATS in your thread,
I wish to make you aware that not only did they have knowledge of astrology,
they also had knowledge of astro-physics,
The sumerian civilisation for starters knew that Uranus was on a tilted axis,
But not only did they know this, they also created several theories as to why it was on such a tilted axis,
One such theory was that a massive planetary body may of passed through this solar system at some point and may of been close enough to uranus for the gravity's to work against eachother.

I, of course, dispute this.

Do you have any reason for holding such a wild belief?

Harte

What wild belief, what belief

Originally posted by AmmonSeth

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
I make my return to ATS in your thread,
I wish to make you aware that not only did they have knowledge of astrology,
they also had knowledge of astro-physics,
The sumerian civilisation for starters knew that Uranus was on a tilted axis,
But not only did they know this, they also created several theories as to why it was on such a tilted axis,
One such theory was that a massive planetary body may of passed through this solar system at some point and may of been close enough to uranus for the gravity's to work against eachother.

I, of course, dispute this.

Do you have any reason for holding such a wild belief?

Harte

What wild belief, what belief

Why, this one, of course:

The sumerian civilisation for starters knew that Uranus was on a tilted axis,

The Sumerians had no knowledge whatsoever of Uranus.

Also (while we're at it):

One such theory was that a massive planetary body may of passed through this solar system at some point and may of been close enough to uranus for the gravity's to work against eachother.

The Sumerians held no such fanciful ideas at all.

Or, if they did, they said absolutely nothing about it.

Harte

they didnt call it uranus, no,
however along with the carving they had of our solar system
were writings about the different planets,
one of them was a 'bluey-green' outer planet on a 'tilt'

If you wish to know more, or just want to moan,
then look it up for yourself,
You teens have nothing else better to do with your time anyway

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
they didnt call it uranus, no,
however along with the carving they had of our solar system
were writings about the different planets,
one of them was a 'bluey-green' outer planet on a 'tilt'

If you wish to know more, or just want to moan,
then look it up for yourself,
You teens have nothing else better to do with your time anyway

I wish I were a teen!

So, like I thought, you have no reason at all to believe what you stated.

Instead of evidence, it's "look it up for yourself."

Believe me, I have. You have not.

It's not there.

Harte

Edited to add -

You know, there are pages here where members post their info. They're called profiles. Maybe you should try checking one out before that foot goes back in your mouth.

I'm 51 and have been looking into this stuff for well over 20 years.

Harte

[edit on 3/6/2008 by Harte]

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
they didnt call it uranus, no,
however along with the carving they had of our solar system
were writings about the different planets,
one of them was a 'bluey-green' outer planet on a 'tilt'

I'm afraid they didn't have that knowledge.

They have a lot of tables and charts that they made (they're in museums) and they named five planets (only.)

You can see one summary table here and confirm it many other ways:
www.aerospaceweb.org...

You can also confirm this by looking at the 23 Babylonian horoscope tablets that survive. Here's a book on them:
books.google.com...,M1

...and so forth. In all cases, you can see that the outermost planet they knew about was Saturn. If you care to learn some cuneiform, you can check the results for yourself.

Here's some interesting links about the discovery of vast prehistoric works supposedly built by Giants.

The size and scope of David Flynn's Teohuanaco discovery simply surpasses comprehension. Mammoth traces of intelligence carved in stone and covering hundreds of square miles. For those who understand what they are seeing here for the first time, this could indeed be the strongest evidence ever found of prehistoric engineering by those who were known and feared throughout the ancient world as gods.
~ Thomas Horn

www.officialdisclosure.com...
www.officialdisclosure.com...
ufocasebook.conforums.com...

Originally posted by Riposte

What you are seeing is Saturn. It is proof that Velikovsky was right and that we once were a satellite of Saturn and that the heavens moved differently than they do now.

Oh my...oh my...

You shouldn't have mentioned that name. Whoever has the nuts to name Velikovsky or somebody else related to the same 'crazy' ideas as he was, is a target for the self promoted debunkers in this board. Conventional science says Velikovsky was a nut case, a dreamer and wrong up to his neck. And if conventional and orthodox science says so you shouldn't have done that sacrilege my friend.
Don't you see the philosophy in some of the debunkers over here (God knows how did they end up considering themselves as such). They are strong because they can throw names in your face... they can tell you about other prepared members who with their knowledge did an honor to this forum. Knowledge that came from the hard core conventional science and archeology. God forbid, never try to overthrow what the bright minds in this planet are teaching to us, sheep and sheep minded, insignificant masses who are not able to think, research and learn for themselves. And of course this produces the right to be every once in awhile a little bit arrogant, rude and why not, ridiculous and narrow minded. Some end up being banned for good like in marduk's case. Some aren't that bad and can still cope with the ignorants and pickle headed new and old members of this board. At the end of the day it servers to the only purpose: Freeing the mind from the stupidity and teaching (I'm sorry, I mean preaching) what we should know and not what we shouldn't. Is a dangerous path and our infantile legs aren't able to walk through...

Originally posted by kindred
Here's some interesting links about the discovery of vast prehistoric works supposedly built by Giants.

I am disappointed to see this posted yet again. The article has ZERO archeological support to it, its all Google Earth "geoglyphs". It is as much a "discovery" as all the claimed cities on Mars satellite images.

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11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables

12so that, " 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'[a]"


Daniel 12:4, 9-10

4 But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge."

9 He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.


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Jeremiah 6:16

16 This is what the LORD says:
"Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, 'We will not walk in it.'

Isaiah 34:16

16 Look in the scroll of the LORD and read:
None of these will be missing,
not one will lack her mate.
For it is his mouth that has given the order,
and his Spirit will gather them together





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[edit on 8-3-2008 by Jbird]

They were writing on stone. That's how advanced they were. No matter what claims of great technology you make, the unescapable fact remains that they had to use stones or clay to write on. Paper before telescopes.

Don't underestimate the human imagination.