Forbidden Egyptology

Originally posted by Skyfloating

You always hear how these people are idiots and crooks and all but they neither look, nor talk nor earn like idiots.

in that case maybe its a matter of levels. People who know more about genuine history are the ones saying they are idiots and crooks. People who only read pseudohistory books and so lack the genuine knowledge will be unable to see that

its nothing to do with envy

its to do with facts

Originally posted by legionromanes

its to do with facts

Harrah for that!

Unfortunately skyfloating has run out of content and is now just posting photos of his heroes and calling us envious.

I've no reason to be envious of a bunch of pseudohistorians - I could never live a lie like they do.

However I do get envious of some people: I'm halfway through Roger Osborne's Civilisation - A New History of the Western World. From the Lascuax cave paintings to Dolly the sheep, via Plato and pop music - in 500 pages - simply amazing.

The depth and breadth of his knowledge combined with his clarity of thought and writing style leave me envious of his intellect.

People read drivel like Hancock to be "open minded" but really his work, and those of his ilk, just close people's minds to the real world.

With Osborne's book every chapter has opened my mind to re-assessing the civilisation and the society I live in - where it has come from and where it might go.

Unfortunately Osborne hasn't included his photo (just 14 pages of references), so I've no idea if he is trustworthy or not....


[edit on 23/4/08 by FatherLukeDuke]

I know the whole idea of "the good guys are the ones without money blah blah" but I dont buy it. Reward follows special contribution.

As for the content: For sure is that if it were really that bad, you guys wouldnt bother responding to it


Not to mention that the "No. 1 authority on ancient egypt" (Hawass) doenst impress me at all. Sorry if feelings are hurt.



[edit on 23-4-2008 by Skyfloating]

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Unfortunately Osborne hasn't included his photo (just 14 pages of references), so I've no idea if he is trustworthy or not....

looks shifty, must be hiding something

ha

Come on guys that we absolute don’t have the same opinions on certain issues and are absolute not capable in changing that, doesn’t mean that it is justified to start the use of abusive language or calling names to all those people.
No one disserves that in my opinion.
This thread doesn’t disserve such an end either, so please take a time-out and stop this in my opinion immature behaviour.

reply to post by spacevisitor


Yóu´re right. I started it and will stop it now and get back on topic.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Not to mention that the "No. 1 authority on ancient egypt" (Hawass) doenst

Again with the straw man?

Who, exactly are you quoting here?

Why do you think anyone reading this would consider Hawass to be the "No. 1 authority on ancient egypt?"

Hawass has his job to do. He does a damn fine job of it, IMO.

Are you aware of the absolutely astounding progress he's made getting antiquities returned to Egypt?

Just because the man holds a position with the government doesn't mean he's anywhere nearbeing the "No. 1 authority on ancient egypt."

Is the "No. 1 authority on economics" the head of the Department of the Treasury in the United States?

Is the "No. 1 authority on constitutional law" even sitting on the Supreme Court of the United States?"

Of course not. These people make far more money in private practice.

Harte

reply to post by Harte


Oh Im sorry. Then Im mistaken and someone else is! Who is it Harte?

Originally posted by legionromanes

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Unfortunately Osborne hasn't included his photo (just 14 pages of references), so I've no idea if he is trustworthy or not....

looks shifty, must be hiding something

ha

Christ, you are right. I've just taken his book outside and burned it! We should burn him as well!!

Burn the witch!

Robert Bauval's most recent photo with is daughter Candice.

from the look of her shes nothing to hide, but Bauval looks like the father of terror

(note: "father of terror" is the name that Robert Bauval gave to this pic so I'm not slagging him off in any way shape or form)



I'm wondering what Skyfloating thinks of him in this picture and wether that means he's also part of the conspiracy of silence
hehe

This picture thing is getting old....

edit to add, this ceases to be a 1 line post.

[edit on 23-4-2008 by PhotonEffect]

reply to post by Harte


I just looked at the recent photo uploads by zorgon on the temple in turkey and have to insist that that they were done by a highly skilled people.

Highly skilled or advanced people were around 12 000 years ago.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Harte

 

Oh Im sorry. Then Im mistaken and someone else is! Who is it Harte?

There are several areas of Egyptology, so no single person is likely to be considered the "Number one authority on Ancient Egypt," though Hawass has been referred to in this way.

Here are some other candidates:

Woplja Erichsen (even though he's dead today)

Bob Brier

TGH James

Ja mes K. Hoffmeir

Among a great many others.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Harte

 

I just looked at the recent photo uploads by zorgon on the temple in turkey and have to insist that that they were done by a highly skilled people.

Highly skilled or advanced people were around 12 000 years ago.

This I can certainly agree with.

Consider the skill required in several cave paintings done thousands of years before the date you mention above.

Harte

Tales of the Cairo Subway Authorities

According to various sources the subway authorities of Cairo have found ancient artifacts, already-built tunnels and writings during their diggings of subway systems for the city.

Since I could find nothing on this with Google, maybe one of you can shed some light on this.

Fringe-Researchers Reference Guide to this Thread

Page 1

Hawass & The Extraterrestrials
The Giza Wall & Creightons Giza-Triangle
The Lightbulb-Question
White Powder Gold
Whats under the Sphinx?

Page 2

Hawass Ego
The Pyramids & Natural Harmonics / Geometry
Ancient Egypt, John West & Entheogens/Hallucinogens

Page 3

The Flower of Life
Towers Online - Good Info Resource

Page 4

Pre-Flood Tales, Sitchin
Sirius & Ancient Egypt
"Only 20% Cuneiform-Tablets published"...possible cover-up
Another picture of the Giza Wall
The books of Enoch as a Source
Khufu the Builder?

Page 5

Conspiracy surrounding Gantenbrink (cheops.org)
Construction questions
Intuition vs. schoolbooks
Alien Pictures of ancient egypt

Page 6

Picture of the strange object ("vase") from museum
More alien pictures
Drilling and Machining of ancient egypt
More on the Construction
Starchild Skulls & Egyptian Skulls
The Deluge

Page 7

Positive search results of cavaties under the Sphinx
Jointed corners of ae structures indicative of advanced technology

Page 8

Robert Bauval
Land of Osiris Documentary
Carbon Dating unreliable
Researcher Chris Dunn
Primer on alternative egyptology
Smithsonianmag-Link: Greeks/Egyptians working stone
False Claim by Mainstreamer about A.Bayuk


Page 9

Laserwork for stone-cutting
Inconvinient Dating in New Mexico
List of some pro olmec-mystery mainstream scientists

Page 10

Lack of evidence for egyptians erecting the Pyramids


Page 12

Strange skulls of mummies
Coneheads of Peru


Page 13

Archaeologist Marvin Powell admits to a cover-up of cuneiform-translations
Cogwheels from the Cairo Museum
Hermes Pre-Flood Flying Chariot
Ancients knew that the earth was round

Page 14

Why biggest Pyramids built first?
Supposed timeframes of the Pyramid constructions
Hawass and other new agers such as A.R.E


Page 15

Greeks & Romans learned from Egypt
...but who did Egypt learn from?
How all technology decays after a short time
Stone blocks connected by metal ties and clamps
Important Questions on the Pyramids still unanswered

Page 16

Thoth - the originator
Fibonnaci golden spiral
The Psychology behind the cover-up
www.larryhunter.com

Page 17

The Turin Kings List


Page 19

Labyrinth in Egypt
Incan depictions of egyptian-style pyramid


Page 20-22

Massive Baalbek structures - mystery
Hawass fired and reinstated
Hancock called liar but then referenced by mainstreamer
More massive stone block mysteries
More on Thoth

Page 23


According to mainstream no wheels used to build Pyramids
CIA-operatives promoting fringe-science and Mars/Giza info
Wheels in ancient egypt
South America Synchronicities
The Emerald Tablets
Radioactive Fallout in AE

Page 24

Rosicrucian View on AE
More on "Stargate Conspiracy"
Evidence of egyptologists turning lies into facts

Page 25

Anomalous ancient maps
Giza-Orion new info

Page 27

Modern egypts military checkpoints
Moving the stones
NarmerPallette

Page 28

Workforce and materials needed
Pyramid "jump in complexity" oddity between 3 pyramids
www.cycle-of-time.net
Khufu-question
Pre-Incan temple


Page 29

Acousting Levitation by NASA
Ultrasonic Levitation

Page 30-33

Carbon-dating reliability or lack thereof
Lost City of Coasts of Cuba


To be continued another time.

A big thank you to the main fringe-contributors PhotonEffect and Spacevisitor.


A big thánk you also to challenging our viewpoints and sharpening our pens by the main mainstream-contributors Harte, cormac mac airt and Hanslune. Great job

Thank you Skyfloating, I give you a big applause for posting and maintaining this magnificent thread so far.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Tales of the Cairo Subway Authorities

According to various sources the subway authorities of Cairo have found ancient artifacts, already-built tunnels and writings during their diggings of subway systems for the city.

Since I could find nothing on this with Google, maybe one of you can shed some light on this.

I find it unlikely, the city was founded in the first millenium A.D.

It wasn't built on top of a more ancient site, as far as anybody knows and as far as the record shows.

But maybe you're thinking of the subway being constructed in Rome

Several artifacts that surfaced during the preliminary digging for the subway line — a Roman-era bronze compass and a bronze-and-copper spatula once used to mix makeup, for example — are on view in the show at Olearie Papali, "Memories From the Underground: Archaeological Finds From 1980 to 2006." Archaeologists organized the exhibition to take stock of the recent finds and learn from them, Bottini said.

Harte

reply to post by Harte


No Im not thinking of the subway in rome, Im thinking of the underground around Giza.

Rather than a discouragement to look there, how about some encouragement in the spirit of research?

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Harte

 

No Im not thinking of the subway in rome, Im thinking of the underground around Giza.

Rather than a discouragement to look there, how about some encouragement in the spirit of research?

Well, there exists a subway in Cairo but there doesn't exist any report of finding any antiquities when it was constructed.

On the other hand, there also exists a subway in Rome (and Rome predates Cairo by quite a few years BTW,) and there do exist reports of finding antiquities in Rome during it's subway construction.

So, where's the discouragement?

I mean, you, or anyone, can go dig where you want. Most researchers try to guess places to look before they go. You know, to try and ensure they don't spend all that money for nothing.

So, if you want to find an 9th century A.D. trowel, go look under Cairo. If you want to find an 8th century B.C. carpenter's square, go look under Rome.

At any rate, don't let me discourage you. By all means, go tunneling under Cairo. At worst, you'll find nothing older than 9th century AD. At best, while you're there, maybe you won't have internet access.

Harte

reply to post by Skyfloating

According to various sources.......

What sources? If there are any legitimate ones, I'd be interested in finding out about them.

On the flipside, as Harte indicated, Cairo wasn't founded until 969 AD. It wasn't built on a pre-existing village or city.

cormac