Asteroid Apophis Heading Towards Earth! Contingency Plans Being Developed By United Nations!

Instead of going the direction of Hollywood explosions I would think a nuclear rocket that puts constant pressure over a long period of time on one side would nudge it out of the way and continue to nudge it even more to prevent any future dates.

We can also look at the very unHollywood like solar sails to steer it out of our path.

But then maybe it is god's way for the world to create 20,000 nuclear missiles to only end up saving the planet.

if this asteriod crashed it would do little it's only 1000 feet high its not big enough to do any damage

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Would this be an ELE? (Extinction Level Event). NASA has estimated that an impact from Apophis, would release more than 100,000 times the energy released in the nuclear blast over Hiroshima, directly affecting thousands of square kilometers and the whole of the Earth would see the effects of the dust released into the atmosphere.

This could result in disastrous changes in the climate, affecting crop cycles leading to several hundred million deaths due to starvation.

It all depends on where it would land and how massive it is. It also depends on what type of asteroid it is. An M-class Asteroid composed mostly of Iron will be the most devastating of all. Those composed mostly of carbon would probably burn up in the atmosphere fragmenting into smaller pieces rendering it somewhat ineffective.

If an asteroid hits (M-class), the chances of it landing in the oceans are large. 70% of the Earth is covered with water.

If it lands in the oceans, it would kill all marine animals around the radius of the impact site. The immense heat of the iron asteroid upon impact will fragment it and then it's iron content would probably color the oceans into a reddish hue.

If it hits on an area where a lot of active submarine volcanoes are located, the volcanic plume will be agitated and will surface to pollute the area of the impact site. Scores of dead marine animals will float about in the oceans causing an overwhelming pestilence and stench. We will see a lot of dead animals lying in the beaches as well. Food sources from the seas will be drastically affected.

This impact will also create mega tsunamis that will destroy cities near the coastal areas and flood them. Ships, ocean liners, etc. will be destroyed.

But, this would not be an ELE.






[edit on 1-2-2008 by amitheone]

Forget it, by 2036 we'll all be dead. Please deduct points for this short answer. ------PC

I don't know if anyone has already posted with this idea or not. Sorry if they did but here goes anyways.

I wonder if the reason why we are seeing so much asteroid activity is because someone wants a new space race to begin. Since there are no more enemies to fight that can achieve space flight (other than the chinese perhaps) there must be a new threat to kick it all off.

Why a space race you ask? Well if you think about it there could be a couple of reasons.

1. The planet is becoming overpopulated and we need a means of mass outward travel to the stars to relieve strain on our planetary infrastructures and to speed up the development of technology and eventually to colonize other planets. Perhaps they are figuring out that if we start now by the time we reach the tipping point of overpopulation we will have the technology at our disposal to create the population disbursement to the stars.

2. There really could be a threat and it needs to be dealt with and we really can't do anything about it currently but it is possible if an interest arises now.

3. There really is a secret space program and with all the recent interest about the program and more people waking up to the idea, the governments have decided to slowly bring us up to speed in a nice, stealthy fasion. This is so when the cat is out of the bag they will have an excuse as to why secret space staitions are already floating in space. All they have to say is "Well we knew the whole time and just didn't want to alarm anyone yet". A nice easy way to save face in the last minute rather than be caught with their pants down.

Any of these reasons could be valid or perhaps all of them. Who knows but if a heavy interest in space arises in the next few years i guess we will know why.

What do you think?

Well it seems that its already beginning. I was just watching family guy on a timeshifted station that was probably playing in the west coast and they showed a military recruitment commercial trying to convince people to join the military space program. It claimed that they launch several rockets into space each month and make double the progress that NASA does.

Im looking for a link but if you find one let me know.

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Even the mainstream media and NASA have shown public instrest about this one.


Just have to wait and see what happens.

As others have said, this asteroid should be the LEAST of our worries.

We first have to deal with the problems we have NOW. Let's focus a bit more on taking back some rights, stopping the destruction of the environment and ending illegal wars.

Nothing against you Mike, you are only a messenger, but i think stressing about an asteroid that may hit in 30 years time is a bit impractical.

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On the contrary starting a mass interest in space exploration would cure alot of societies ailments as it would create a large workforce demand with huge spin off industries. New technologies would be developed that would assist mankind and it would slowly aid against depopulation by allowing our population to distribute itself among the stars.

I strongly believe that our society will nto survive more than one hundred years if we do not perfect space travel. It is clearly the only logical next step for our species to take whether done by good intention or not. The problem is if we do not start interest now then the consequences will catch up to us eventually. If we only start an interest in space travel when they start warning us that not doing it will hurt society, it will probably already be too late.

There are many other reasons why we should do this.

Helium 3 for the replacement of our dwindling fossil fuel supply.

Reduce overpopulation, creating new workforces. New discoveries to aid mankind against new threats to it's survival.

Remember the bigger we get as a society the more problems we have to face. The more equipped we are now the better. The new generation growing up right now will be the pioneers of space travel.

Good to keep in mind, but again some perspective is needed.

We (humans in general) could not even identify the exact path and range of an asteroid one day out (TU 24) ... so I will not even consider this to be a threat until we observe it more. Late 2035, maybe if we haven't blown ourselves to bits by then. Hell, another asteroid could knock into it and send it careening to Earth tomorrow ... or knock it into the sun.

I like to think of space as a big ol' vat of Heisenberg.

Or for those of the non-scientific sort, a box of choc-o-lates.

Originally posted by fooffstarr
As others have said, this asteroid should be the LEAST of our worries.

We first have to deal with the problems we have NOW. Let's focus a bit more on taking back some rights, stopping the destruction of the environment and ending illegal wars.

Nothing against you Mike, you are only a messenger, but i think stressing about an asteroid that may hit in 30 years time is a bit impractical.

I assume to know what you mean by "illegal wars", but instead why not concentrate on what leads to wars? Such as the small current problem we have called "Islamic Fundamentalists"? If you are refering to Iraq or Afghanistan, they are hardly Illegal, but this is not the appropriate thread to debate such frugalities.

Education is the true cure for Fundamentalist ideology, in the mean time however we must fight those who have already chosen their paths.

Back on topic however, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for 2036. The entire situation has so many variables, and we have yet to even gain the ability to forecast tomorrow's weather lol (the new computer system in use for the last 7-8 years is actually to blame).

We have MANY contingencies, as was confirmed through my correspondences. If worse comes to worst, we will always have the proverbial "rabbit that can be pulled out of the hat". If I can recall correctly, it seems that we actually hit an inbound rock about 4 years ago or so. There was a T-minus countdown, and around the date mentioned (6 months later) Seattle and the entire Pacific Northwest had ENORMOUS meteor showers never seen before. It seemed that someone fired something at an inbound object, and in fact did smash it into pieces small enough to burn up in the Earth's Atmosphere.

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haha nice, very interesting,
so it's gonna happen on my birthday huh?

Originally posted by Nohup
So I guess we're pretty much screwed unless we're saved by Superman, or maybe the Prince of Space.

Bah, none compare to Chuck Noris, he'll back hand it into oblivion! On second thought, he'll probably have it for lunch

I recall hearing on tv many years ago that a dust cloud might nudge an asteroid out of the way. Dont we already have enough nukes to do the job? Although manufacture of nukes in space would be safer.

Does anyone think the ETs might give us a hand? Might our Moon play a role in this?

Originally posted by amitheone
If an asteroid hits (M-class), the chances of it landing in the oceans are large. 70% of the Earth is covered with water.

If it lands in the oceans, it would kill all marine animals around the radius of the impact site. The immense heat of the iron asteroid upon impact will fragment it and then it's iron content would probably color the oceans into a reddish hue.

This impact will also create mega tsunamis that will destroy cities near the coastal areas and flood them. Ships, ocean liners, etc. will be destroyed.

But, this would not be an ELE.

I wonder if you mentioned the seas turning red because of the biblical prophecy concerning the end times, that stars will fall to earth, a mountain will be thrown into the sea, that another star called wormwood will fall to earth and poison the water, that one third of the sea's creatures die, along with one third of all men in sea going vessels in the sea, and that the seas will turn red like blood?

And they say that the Bible is a bunch of bull .. look at this, if you don't see it you are someone purposefully turning their eyes to avoid the truth. It says in Revelation we'll be hit like up to 4 instances in the text. I'm not trying to discuss whether religions and their end time prophets are good and true, just that their end time prophecy, this end time prophecy specifically, is true because of statistics. We know the Earth is hit by X amount of Y sized objects every Z amount of years. But they did not know that, the writers of the texts in the Bible, specifically John.

This Post Only For The Conspiracy Masters!!

A number of us were discussing possible end-of-the-world scenarios during a get-together yesterday, when it turned to something pretty interesting if not alarming!

Personally, I would think it’s a hare-brain thought, but fascinating all the same! This post actually belongs to the Skunk Works forum, but whatever, here it is…

You must have heard about Alternative 3? If not, here’s the gist:

Alternative 3 was a television program, broadcast in the UK in 1977 dealing with an investigation into Britain's 'brain drain' where a number of scientists of various disciplines ‘disappeared’. It uncovered a plan to make the moon and Mars habitable in the event of a catastrophic Extinction Level Event on Earth. Selected persons were to be relocated in underground cities here, or on the Moon or Mars.

So what can we make of it 30 years on? Looking back, the question is, could it be true or at least some of it?

According to the book by Leslie Watkins, it was claimed that scientists had determined that the Earth's surface would be unable to support life for much longer, due to pollution leading to catastrophic climate change or an ELE.

Three alternatives were proposed:

Alternative 1. This involved the detonation of nuclear bombs in the stratosphere in order to allow the pollution to escape.

Alternative 2. The construction of elaborate underground cities for housing the chosen few, during ‘depopulation’ of the Earth.

Alternative 3. To populate Mars via a way station on the Moon.

Let's see what Alternative 2 is all about. This included the construction of underground ‘cities’ for housing the chosen few. These underground cities likely exist at Dulce, Area 51, Denver, Iron Mountain, Colorado Springs and so on.

The idea was to reduce Earth's population to make it more manageable and habitable.
For this various scenarios were played out with the aim of population reduction most notably introduction of exotic diseases to decimate entire populations. This has not been successful. The other method could be all out nuclear war. This too does not seem practical for various reasons.

So what is the alternative left for the NWO to drastically reduce the world’s population?

A ‘near ELE’!! Get a large asteroid to hit the Earth which would result in a massive population reduction during the couple of years after the event! In the meanwhile, the chosen few, probably a few hundred thousand, would be hunkered down in the underground cities waiting for ‘normality’ to return.

So would the ‘hidden government’ try and guide the asteroid TOWARD the Earth on a collision course, instead of deflecting it AWAY??!!

Apophis fits the bill! And it's name means 'destruction'!! It all adds up, what?

That’s why I said, this post belongs to the Skunk Works forum!!

Cheers!

Alternative 3. By Capt Bill Robertson on ATS




[edit on 2-2-2008 by mikesingh]

I was always curious as to why the ISS needed to install a foreward shield so soon after the Chinese sat incident. Heavens, the world's govs working together to combat an ele as opposed to trying to skewer soft underbellies?
Now there's a thought.

I started having dreams about an asteroid impact, about 9 years ago. The first one was such a vivd experience that it woke me up. I immediately wke up my now ex-wife and told her the dream. It went like this,

I was walking my dog, not the one I had at the time, but a distinctly different dog. I was also very old, in my 70's, and as I walked my dog I watched as this great fireball approached from the northwest. It left a giant smoking trail as it passed to the west and sank over the horizon.
In my dream I remember telling my dog that "I wish I was with "Mama" , because this isnt good." At the time I had the dream I couldnt understand why my wife wasnt there, I assumed that I had out lived her.
A few seconds after the asteroid passes into the south west, there is a great flash of light in the s/w. At first I try to run home, but I'm 70 something years old and cant run far, so I just sit down the canal bank we're walking on and wait. As I look to the s/w the sky is a riotous mass of swirling "clouds" and it is turning red. After a few minutes the ground shakes with the most un-imaginable earthquake. We are literally flung 20' into the air as the shockwave passes .As I'm In the air I can see the waves in the ground from the passing shockwaves, like ripples on a pond, but 10' tall in the ground.
Few people know what it feels like to slam the ground at 60 mph, but I do, and it aint pretty, but this was much worse, even when your wearing protective gear, let alone being 70 years old and walking the dog.
As I sat up, knowing that I had life ending injuries, holding my poor dog who was in the same state, I saw the aproaching blast.
It was a roiling mass of flame and smoke, from horizon to horizon, as it came out of the south. It dwarfed the mighty sierra nevada as it burned its way near.
I could see the landscape being torn up, vineyards and orchards ripped from the ground and then incinerated by the flame front. It was moving faster than the speed of sound so it was strangley silent.
Then I held my dog close and wished my wife was there, and it all ended in a great flash of light and heat.
It is one of the most realistic dreams I've ever had, and I've had some good ones.
I only had it once, but the asteroid theme is re-occuring,.
I know my subconcious has been tainted by popular culture, the year before was the year of duelin asteroid movies, but these dreams are different than my usual stuff. More realistic and not so dream like, I never do all of the wierd dream stuff, like flying or running super fast, just real life type stuff.
Since the wife ran off, I now understand, that part of the dream. And, quite by happen stance I have been taking steps in my life, by relocating my business, that would put me in the appropriate geography for the dream.
9 years ago.

Apophis was discovered three years ago, and last year the chance of an impact was pretty low, but it crosss earths orbit twice a year, so as more time goes by the orbital predictions will also brcome more precise.
Now the is a certain percentage of a chance that apophis will pass within a certain region in 2029. If it goes to one side it passes harmlessly for a while more.
If it goes to the other side, it swings back around for a highly probable impact in 2036.l
As it stands now if it does impact in 2036, the impact point will be somewhere off the west coast of north america/central america. Between Hawaii and Costa Rica, with the most likely impact point being 400 miles s/w of los angeles.
If it happens it will reshape the world as we know it, it wont be an ELE but it will be ugly.

I truley hope that my dream was just that and not a portent of the future.

What do our scientists do when they find an endangered population of animals, they study them, and watcth and try to preserve. So that they might live on.
UFO's???
watching an endangered population, to see if they'll find a way to survive.

Using criteria developed in this research, new measurements possible in 2013 (if not 2011) will likely confirm that in 2036 Apophis will quietly pass more than 49 million km (30.5 million miles; 0.32 AU) from Earth on Easter Sunday of that year (April 13).

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It's like trying to throw a grain of sand at a ping-pong ball bouncing around inside an enormous gymnasium...

2036 is 28 years away... if it's still on a collision course by around 2020 and we haven't blown ourselves up, then we should start going on it. Until then.

Hey,

I noticed this news article on the BBC website, it could have something to do with this impending disaster:

news.bbc.co.uk...

'Doomsday' seeds arrive in Norway:

Basically, they are storing away a load of seeds:

"The vault is intended to act as insurance so that food production can be restarted anywhere on Earth after a regional or global catastrophe."