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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Basically, electricity is only magnetic force.
Alternating current through a oscilloscope looks like a wave.
The UP is the North pole, and the DOWN is the South pole of the magnetic current AC wave.
This explains why there is electromagnetism outside of electrical wires
because magnetism is flowing through the wires.
Once you find out it is true, you then see how all matter, all atoms, are held together with magnetic force.
Once you learn the laws of magnetism, you will see we are all connected, and working together to form ONE giant magnetic force.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Basically, electricity is only magnetic force.
Well, if we believe in Maxwell's equations, that sort of follows, doesn't it?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Current though an oscilloscope... An interesting idea. How many amps do you plan on using?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Magnetic current... Sounds cools but still bull.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Wait, you said electricity was the only magnetic force. Now there is some kind of mysterious "magnetism".
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Oh really? Is it measurable?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Have you learned "the laws of magnetism"? Based on your post, I strongly doubt that.
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Please explain why you need other people to do your thinking? Please explain to my why you don't experiment like Maxwell, but you only read?
I could tell you 100 scientific experiments that prove electricity is only magnetic force running in streams.
Interesting idea? It's not an idea... its a real tool. Do you even know what an oscilloscope is?
I suggest you download Multisim and EXPERIMENT. Get an AC power source and connect it to the oscilloscope, and you can physically see the North and South of magnetic force working together to travel through wire.
Originally posted by ALLis0NE
I know "likes repel, opposites attract".
I know "magnets grow strength in numbers".
I know "magnets loose strength with distance".
I know pretty much all of everything about magnetism.
It's been known since the days of Faraday and Maxwell that if you wave a magnet back and forth in the vicinity of a conducting wire, a current is induced in the wire. The same thing takes place in the sun's atmosphere. Oscillating magnetic fields generate currents that flow through the highly ionized gases above the photosphere and in the corona. How does that heat the corona? When current flows through a resistor some of the energy is dissipated as heat. A common light bulb is a good analogy. Electricity moves through a partially conducting filament, the filament glows and it also become very hot. Again, the question hinges on better observations of magnetic fields and plasmas in the corona. Scientists know that there is some resistive dissipation of energy in the corona, but they can't be sure how much.
There is no shortage of ideas about what may heat the corona. Microflares, magnetic and acoustic waves, and electrical dissipation are all good candidates, but the observed energy flux into the corona from each of these mechanisms is about an order of magnitude too low to account for coronal heating. More and better data are needed to finally reveal the culprit.
"My bet is that it's going to be some mixture," says Hathaway, "but only time will tell! When we do know, we'll have solved one of the big mysteries in astrophysics."
science.nasa.gov...
Most modern generators with field coils feature a capability known as self-excitation where some of the power output from the rotor is diverted to power the field coils. Additionally the rotor or stator contains a small amount of magnetizable metal, which retains a very weak residual magnetism when the generator is turned off. The generator is turned on with no load connected, and the initial weak field creates a weak flow in the field coils, which in turn begins to slightly affect the rotor to begin to produce current that then further strengthens the field. This feedback loop continues to increase field voltage and output power until the generator reaches its full operating output level.
This initial self-excitation feedback process does not work if the generator is started connected to a load, as the load will quickly dissipate the slight power production of the initial field buildup process.
en.wikipedia.org...
This
account obviously does not explain much about the circuit.
Indeed, in the Feynman lectures we read:4
‘‘We ask what happens in a piece of resistance
wire when it is carrying a current. Since the wire
has resistance, there is an electric field along it,
driving the current. Because there is a potential
drop along the wire, there is also an electric field
just outside the wire, parallel to the surface ~Fig.
27-5!. There is, in addition, a magnetic field
which goes around the wire because of the current.
The E and B are at right angles; therefore
there is a Poynting vector directed radially inward,
as shown in the figure. There is a flow of
energy into the wire all around. It is of course,
equal to the energy being lost in the wire in the
form of heat. So our ‘‘crazy’’ theory says that the
electrons are getting their energy to generate heat
because of the energy flowing into the wire from
the field outside. Intuition would seem to tell us
that the electrons get their energy from being
pushed along the wire, so the energy should be
flowing down ~or up! along the wire. But the
theory says that the electrons are really being
pushed by an electric field, which has come from
some charges very far away, and that the electrons
get their energy for generating heat from
these fields. The energy somehow flows from the
distant charges into a wide area of space and then
inward to the wire.’’ ~emphasis added!.
However, the result of such an application
and the resulting energy transfer in the circuit apparently did
not satisfy Feynman. He wrote: ‘‘this theory is obviously
nuts, somehow energy flows from the battery to infinity and
then back into the load, is really strange.’’4 Feynman, however,
did not persist and left the problem for others to find a
reasonable explanation. Can we say more about energy transfer
in this simple circuit?
sites.huji.ac.il...
Schlichting (1991) provided a striking example of how students do not see what actually is to be seen but what their conceptions allow them to see, so to speak. He presented the experimental setup shown in Figure 6 to a grade 10 class and asked where the thin wire starts glowing when the circuit is closed. There were three different predictions. (1) The wire will glow first at the left or the right side depending of the assumption of direction of current flow taken as current enters the wire there. (2) The wire will glow up First in the middle as two kinds of current (see above) will come together in the middle. (3) The wire will simultaneously glow up at all places (the correct view). After the prediction the experiment was carried out. Almost everybody saw what he or she expected.
www.physics.ohio-state.edu...
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
It's not a conspiracy to oppress your great and wonderful ideas. it's a meritocracy encouraging you to gather and provide absolutely as much data as you can for your theories.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Okay, first off, let me just explain that I like the electric star model. It makes sense on a lot of levels, and I'd like to hear of more solid research into the idea.
However, whenever I see someone making claims like you are in this particular post, my skept-o-meter goes off.
The idea that science is absolutely dogmatic and your theories are so revolutionary that they would shatter the scientific universe are ludicrous, to say nothing of the concept that a lot of scientists would be left looking foolish.
* Arrhenius (ion chemistry)
* Alfven, Hans (galaxy-scale plasma dynamics)
* Baird, John L. (television camera)
* Bakker, Robert (fast, warm-blooded dinosaurs)
* Chandrasekhar, Subrahmanyan (black holes in 1930)
* Chladni, Ernst (meteorites in 1800)
* Doppler (optical Doppler effect)
* Folk, Robert L. (existence and importance of nanobacteria)
* Galvani (bioelectricity)
* Harvey, William (circulation of blood, 1628)
* Krebs (ATP energy, Krebs cycle)
* Galileo (supported the Copernican viewpoint)
* Gauss, Karl F. (nonEuclidean geometery)
* Binning/Roher/Gimzewski (scanning-tunneling microscope)
* Goddard, Robert (rocket-powered space ships)
* Goethe (Land color theory)
* Gold, Thomas (deep non-biological petroleum deposits)
* Gold, Thomas (deep mine bacteria)
* Lister, J (sterilizing)
* Margulis, Lynn (endosymbiotic organelles)
* Mayer, Julius R. (The Law of Conservation of Energy)
* Marshall, B (ulcers caused by bacteria, helicobacter pylori)
* McClintlock, Barbara (mobile genetic elements, "jumping genes", transposons)
* Newlands, J. (pre-Mendeleev periodic table)
* Nottebohm, F. (neurogenesis: brains can grow neurons)
* Ohm, George S. (Ohm's Law)
* Ovshinsky, Stanford R. (amorphous semiconductor devices)
* Pasteur, Louis (germ theory of disease)
* Prusiner, Stanley (existence of prions, 1982)
* Rous, Peyton (viruses cause cancer)
* Semmelweis, I. (surgeons wash hands, puerperal fever )
* Tesla, Nikola (Earth electrical resonance, "Schumann" resonance)
* Tesla, Nikola (brushless AC motor)
* J H van't Hoff (molecules are 3D)
* Warren, Warren S (flaw in MRI theory)
* Wegener, Alfred (continental drift)
* Wright, Wilbur & Orville (flying machines)
* Zwicky, Fritz (existence of dark matter, 1933)
* Zweig, George (quark theory)
* Ball lightning (lacking a theory, it was long dismissed as retinal afterimages)
* Catastrophism (ridicule of rapid Earth changes, asteroid mass extinctions)
* Child abuse (before 1950, doctors were mystified by "spontaneous" childhood bruising)
* Cooperation or altruism between animals (versus Evolution's required competition)
* Instantaneous meteor noises (evidence rejected because sound should be delayed by distance)
* Mind-body connection (psychoneuroimmunology, doctors ridiculed any emotional basis for disease)
* Perceptrons (later vindicated as Neural Networks)
* Permanent magnet levitation ("Levitron" shouldn't have worked)
www.amasci.com...
Fact is, they would remain right where they were, while whoever proves the new theory races up to join their ranks.
Hawking did not make Einstein look like an idiot, Copernicus did not make Aristotle look foolish.
Basically your post - this one, at any rate - screams of conceit and a lack of understanding of how the scientific community works.
It's not a conspiracy to oppress your great and wonderful ideas.
it's a meritocracy encouraging you to gather and provide absolutely as much data as you can for your theories.
Originally posted by citizen smith
such as how an electron is bound to its shell orbit around the nucleus and the flow of charge between the two that constitute an atom
interactive charge-flows that create a physical matter of an element, such as the molecular structure of a diamond crystal
Scale that up again and you have the earth with our single orbiting moon, bound in place by interactive charge-flows that keep it rotating in its orbit
Originally posted by StellarX
He is not making all that many claims that have not been made by men of great standing in their various fields. To suggest that he has cooked up any number of those ideas is the big lie here.
The science establishment is like any other type of establishment warped to reflect the views of the few ( normally very white) old men who arrived at their positions by getting very old and never admitting to being wrong about anything.
In the end scientist are people and just like regular people they act in self interested ways
IF you investigate the history of scientist and the various scientific establishments of the world you will find a very dark history of suppression and general hatred of all those who dare to question norms.
Anyone who things that the science establishments of the world works along merit lines do not in my opinion know a damn thing and should be treated with a great deal of contempt.
Originally posted by psychedeliack
Like i said im no physicists, but if you have two models that have any degree of mathematical validation, why do they not figure out why this is instead of arguing which one is supreme?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
You are right. The moronic nature of EU is not in any particular part of it, but in its composition. It's a horrid mosaic made of individual facets that make sense in and by themselves. For example, it's very likely that the magnetic field of the Sun is more complex than was anticipated and that because of that, there are "filaments" of current reaching Earth. Fine. Can there be nucelar fusion in the upper layers of the Sun? Sure there can! Except the much lower density won't allow for enough energy to be produced. Etc etc etc. Combined with the fact that armchair scientists will never be able to create a real model of a star based on there "electrifying" ideas, such model can not be argued against, because there is not basis for comparison. Just like in case of solar neutrino -- until some EU proponent will calculate the projected neutrino rates and compare with experimental data, the continued talk of the EU supremacy remains very, very, very cheap.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
But you see, it is the "electric" conconction that does NOT have any mathematical validation (see my example with solar neutrinos). Considering real models of whatever sophistication, on the same basis as a mere claim of "electrical sun", doesn't make a lot of sense to begin with. Once the "electric" model is built and calculations done, then we can talk, but before that, putting in a thread titled "Electric star model now explains every problem facing solar space physics" is really, really grotesque.
Originally posted by Riposte
Anytime you and your ilk want to produce observational proof of dark matter, dark energy and black holes, then I'll start to listen to you. Unfortunately for you though, by their very definition, they CANNOT be observed and are figments of your imagination. They DO NOT EXIST.
You might as well call them unicorns.