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Originally posted by rizla
Ban all guns other than hunting weapons that are licensed and controlled.
Originally posted by reluctantpawn
reply to post by mad scientist
Ever try walking to a christian church in China?
respectfully
reluctantpawn
Originally posted by reluctantpawn
reply to post by mad scientist
You cannot. You will be arrested. Why are the authorities so afraid of "feeble minded" people? You would think that a religion that governs "from fear" would not be of any concern to the authorities. Do these people also have freedom to speak openly in dissent? We all know what road that takes there. My friend if you felt comfortable and safe on those streets then Auschwitz may well have been your Nirvana. An armed society is a free society. This cannot be disputed historically.
Originally posted by Lonestar24
Hmm, again one of these "2nd amendment and you" threads... and like most of them it started with the usual misconception....
There are no "free" societies that do NOT "trust" their citizens with guns. In about every country there are ways to get firearms. And in most places it is easier and less restricted than the UK. If I wanted to I could get firearms in a couple of weeks in my country, and that with less restrictions than in many US states.
Now, the main difference is that...well... all societies apart from the USA do not see the mythical quality arms seem to possess for some over the pond. US people are not the only ones who fear a return to an unequal society. That would be grossly overestimating the importance of the american independence event, and at the same time ignoring the political struggles many other societies have gone through since then. But people just believe that civil liberties, the basic rights that keep the democratic wheels turning, should be something meaningful; the mere thought that anyone could rate arms as something important enough to be a civil liberty seems ridiculous to us. Why is that? It is not because the USA were that beacon of light running in front of all those still-a-little-repressed societies that have yet to taste "true freedom" in a six-shot package.
It is because these societies treat the possession of arms as a nice personal gimmick and tool, not as a prerequisite for the functioning of the civil order. And in comes the aforementioned climate of fear that somehow seems to hold large portions of the american society in its grip - the fear of being physically defenselessness. The fear of some universal bogeyman that has come to take away all their precious possessions, be it money, life or liberties.
The thread starter mentioned he couldn´t imagine living in such a state of fear that we wouldnt trust our neighbour with guns. In the same fashion I say, how can one live in a society that fears the neighbour unless packing heat themselves? How could I walk the streets comfortably when it is the knowledge, or rather BELIEF, that only my CC gun keeps people in check, and not their own moral restraints? How can I reasonably expect my government to turn into a tyrannical bogeyman any minute (at which point I, with all my arsenal, personally have to slaughter everyone in the White House) and still honestly support it UNTIL it turns "evil"? Thats like planning how to break up with a woman BEFORE you even had the first date.
Originally posted by xion329alpha
Simple, look what your country has become with guns, people are murdered every minute. Other countries are smarter and less crazy than USA.