The speed of Darkness

Oh God help us, I hope you guys aren't serious. Only ANOK and a couple of other are talking any sense. The question was a valid one but it's been answered, darkness spreads as quickly as light recedes.

For the record, X being inversely proportional to Y means that it equals something multiplied by 1/Y, not something multiplied by -Y.

For the record, dark matter is just a name for some matter we think must exist but that we can't see with any available technology. Darkness is a name for the absence of light either in a particular range of wavelengths or all wavelengths.

For the record, something can not have an acceleration if it has no velocity (speed). Acceleration is defined as the rate of change of velocity. When you talk about acceleration you're saying something about velocity too.

Assuming you guys aren't spoofing, you really need to get a good grasp of how we think of things now if you intend to prove current thinking wrong. Weak or unsupported arguments leave you open to ridicule and you'll not be taken seriously.

In the meantime, feel free to ask or look it up in Wikipedia or something. We need well-informed minds on ATS.

True... less is probably more in this case. This is not to say that the subject is not worthy of further discussion or debate. I'll just stick to my initial response.

[edit on 28-1-2008 by spectre76]

Darkness is the abcence of light, so dark travles at the same speed as light.

This subject reminds me of another mind blower (for me at least) "where does space end ?" I try to stay away from that one.

Good topic. Though, I've found darkness as a lack of light. This means there's no speed of darkness, just the speed of light's lessening amount, allowing more non light to show.

i remember when i was a youngin" muhammad ali said while
talking to johnny carson" i'm so fast i can turn the light off
and be in the bed before the room gets dark"..

since darkness is just the absence of light and not a quantity in itself, I guess you'd say that darkness has no speed but is rather the universal 'default'.

Originally posted by ANOK
There is no darkness, only lack of light. So therefore darkness has no speed...

I'd have to agree with the above statement, since darkness is defined as the absence of light it doesn't really travel at a speed... now a blackhole might move at a certain speed, and blackholes do lack light, but that's besides the point...

I am posting this reply having very little knowledge of physics, only what I learned in High School...That being said...

Darkness is absense of light, which means it's nothing. The speed of nothing (Darkness) must remain zero for the speed of Light to have relevance. So, the speed of light is a relative speed compared to the speed of Darkness...which is 0.

Nothing is the only matter in the unverse that has a speed of 0.

Stop thinking in dichotomies and antagonistic dualities--- that is so 3rd dimension!!
Not all apples are red and sweet.
To our eyes, light is easy to see and record so we base things on it and make it responsible for the existence of everything that stimulates our senses. We know nothing about darkness because we can't see it and therefor we do not consider it to have much of any affect on our existence. But that doesn't mean that it isn't there. Lightness and darkness operate differently they are not mutually exclusive and are infact related, they represent energy.

Green apples do exist you know

Originally posted by leira7
Stop thinking in dichotomies and antagonistic dualities--- that is so 3rd dimension!!

Ahh, the programs run deep. Thankfully you have interrupted the pattern.

It is futile to discuss the measurements of any entity in terms of the instrument

that is used to measure it.

It is the tools themselves that limit our understanding of any specific quality

Light and darkness are the same thing in a quantum universe.

Even in strict Newtonian physics light cannot be measured without the bias of the observer.

I have always wondered why we call a measuring stick a "ruler"...hmm ?

Darkness is the same speed as nothingness which just happens to be the same speed as silence, which is equal to the speed of void that just happens to also be the speed of the thought processes of all the candidates running for president this year.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Darkness is the same speed as nothingness which just happens to be the same speed as silence, which is equal to the speed of void that just happens to also be the speed of the thought processes of all the candidates running for president this year.

If the sound of silence was emanating from a forest and there was no ear present to hear it, would it still make a sound?

Replying to almost all of the 4th page before this post.

Maybe its not the speed of light that exists, maybe its the speed of darkness. Could it possibly be that we measure the speed at which the darkness goes away, and not measuring the speed at which the light comes? We could all be wrong and turn out that scientists measure the rate of which the darkness recedes rather that measuring the rate at which the light comes forth.

Just a thought...

[edit on 28-1-2008 by Nyte Angel]

ok, you start with a dark room.

when you turn on the light it takes x amount of time for the photons to reach your eyes.

when you turn off the light it takes x amount of time for the last of the photons to reach your eyes.

I would postulate that the speed of darkness equals the speed of light.

Originally posted by spectre76
If the sound of silence was emanating from a forest and there was no ear present to hear it, would it still make a sound?

Yes, and it would be deafening.

reply to post by locobarrito


Whats 'X'? You still haven't answered the question, I asked what the speed of it was. I'm not trying to be rude but I know there just has to be a component that can measure speed of darkness. If it hasn't been created yet, then thats ok.

Originally posted by Nyte Angel
Whats 'X'? You still haven't answered the question, I asked what the speed of it was. I'm not trying to be rude but I know there just has to be a component that can measure speed of darkness. If it hasn't been created yet, then thats ok.

The speed of darkness is 0 and infinite all at the same time.

[edit on 28-1-2008 by Xtrozero]

reply to post by Nyte Angel

No, because we are measure the photons of light itself. Light is made of photons, and we measure them.

reply to post by RuneSpider


Then what is darkness? It can't just be nothing, there still has to be something there that allows the light to reappear later.