traitors should be shot

Fricken moron. Its called we were attacked.

Are you saying just because this soldier was caught in a sting, it means it is totally impossible he could have been playing his prank during the sting? People have strange hobbies, and I do not think he should be stated as fully guilty right away.

The guy is a self admitted muslim converted 5 years ago. I doubt he was kidding.

Yes, you were attacked by Al Quaeda. So you went to Afghanistan, then Bush wanted to start another crusade, so regroup and send the troops off to Iraq. Iraq did not attack you, and all this garbage about him being in an alliance with Osama is trash. Osama probably has 'alliances' with tons of countries.

Just because a country will house terrorists, or support them in some way it does not mean they actually do such activities themselves. Since Osama was too difficult to catch, Bush needed to get a new target, and make a nice scapegoat.

Once again facts can be misleading. You cannot say that every single Muslim is a terrorist.

You can say the ones colluding with Al Queada are!

The entire point was that he may have been doing that for a number of reasons, you cannot just say he is guilty since he happened to be trying to give away secrets during a 'sting'.

Originally posted by QuestForSafety
By the way Lilblam, I hate to side with Dreamrebel but you sound completely insane. The ethics and morals of human life are extremely imporant. There is no guarentee a soul exists either, in fact I can flat out say it does not exist. I believe this myself of course, you just sound so fanatical saying people must not be cared about preserving their flesh. Why not just put an end to the human race now then, so the souls can be free.

The question still remains, what makes you care about human life to fight for it? Your sense of morals? Your sense of righteosness? Social programming?

If there IS no existance after death, this life is extremely pointless and senseless... the only reason we'd be alive is just random chaotic coincidence... so no reason at all. Just to have some fun and then die.

If the IS existance after death, then why concentrate so much on the survival and pleasure of the flesh, when you can concentrate on gaining knowledge and learning instead? So either way, the body doesn't seem to matter AT ALL, in both cases!

It is only the delusion that it MUST be preserved, a natural instinct, that leads you to fight for it so hard. If you can learn to control your own "instincts" and your own "emotions", you are able to surpass this existance and it would be impossible to black mail you or control you with ANYTHING. You'd be free. And truth does set a person free.

Sure it's important that we're here to learn our lessons and experience what life on 3rd density is like.. why not. But when you put survival above wisdom, you're ignorant.

Therefore, defense of one's country, of one's family, of one's own body is absolutely a 3rd density, service to self act of ignorance... in order to achieve the maximum PLEASURE that life can offer. Humans seek PLEASURE, not knowledge. It doesn't PLEASE them that they may one day die, even if they KNOW they will. Killing others means you put YOUR LIFE as more important than someone else's life. In reality, all life, human or any other, is absolutely equal in importance. Why do you not fight as hard to save the life of a tree as you do your own mother? What makes HER life more important?

Would it be your subjective ignorant view that because she is your mother, and because she is human, she must be more important? What about your own life as opposed to a snail? Do you REALLY think humans are special in some way? That's wishful thinking.

So for the last time, if you play in the dirt you will get dirty. But you are the one who chooses to play. I decided I had enough "dirt", and will no longer play along. This is my choice. If somebody doesn't like it, that's just too bad isn't it?

Saddam corrdinated the failed attempt to assasinate our President.

That is a threat that deserved a "critical" response at the right time. And last year was the right time.

Exactly - I have been saying military courtmarshall to determine what the truth is. If he was a CIA Agenet or Undercover FBI, then I kinda doubt he would have been arrested. But let the military court determine that. If it turns out he was enlisted army and muslim and decided to chat with Al Queada about the best way to blow up or inject chemicals into tanks, then let military justice deal with him as the law dictates treason and traitors.

Originally posted by dreamrebel
You can say the ones colluding with Al Queada are!

You don't even know if there ARE terrorists in Iraq at all. Seems more like desperate people trying to defend themselves from the onslaught of US and its idiot ruler. Most likely CIA and Mossad creating the "illusion" of terrorism.

You don't KNOW if any terrorists were responsible for 9/11, so supporting your buddies who attack other countries on false pretenses is just silly

You are far more "advanced" then me. But based on your logic I fail to see how you have lasted this long.

I would think that without any regard to your "sense of self" that you would have been hit by a car, jumped of a roof, impaled yourself, set yourself on fire, I don't know whatever you "advanced" people do to off yourself.

hahahaha

Originally posted by robertfenix
You are far more "advanced" then me. But based on your logic I fail to see how you have lasted this long.

I would think that without any regard to your "sense of self" that you would have been hit by a car, jumped of a roof, impaled yourself, set yourself on fire, I don't know whatever you "advanced" people do to off yourself.

Don't plan to "off" myself Came here to learn, plan to stick around and learn. But you can off whomever you like.

Actually Lilblam is a Cassiopaean and feels he is 6th degree mason from the future. Read is signature and then look up one of the many threads on them ATS.


[Edited on 13-2-2004 by dreamrebel]

Originally posted by dreamrebel
I cant believe my long time friend Mcgotti is turning on me. WTF?

[Edited on 13-2-2004 by dreamrebel]

Im not turning on you man...but if im gonna be torturing people it has to at least be the right ones

I hear ya bra ..............................

Nope I'm human Cassiopaeans are 6th density unified thought forms, who are us from the future (from our perception). But because there is no time, it is not entirely "accurate".

Me and you are on ENTIRELY different stages of progress, dreamrebel. Your frequency resonance vibration is our of synch with mine. No worries

Correct. -------------------- Whatever that meant. Peace!

Originally posted by dreamrebel
Correct. -------------------- Whatever that meant. Peace!

That just meant we think in an entirely different way