Life on Mars? Amazing photos from NASA probe reveal image of mystery figure on Red Planet

This "mystery figure" is a rock. -__-

reply to post by rikriley


I had to read a part of your post twice, rikriley. The first time because it was the next reply in line, the second time because of this:

There are many reptiles on Mars as well as birds and yes I have seen ducks on Mars and ducks need water as well as the other lifeforms.

Ducks?

DUCKS?

Are you being serious? No, of course you're not (hopefully). You certainly have a strange sense of humour there.

Back on topic: I keep looking at the picture, I've even searched almost all of it on high resolution. There are plenty of other shadows, odd shapes and simulacra that could be misconstrued as something they're not.
The figure in question, however, does seem to be unique in the photo, insomuch as it still stands out as something unusual, and potentially anomalous.

Note: Sky News has just (7:55pm GMT) carried an article about the photo. They had Timothy Good on as an expert witness, a small miracle in itself, who said he believed we are looking at a simulacra. The reporter asked about life on Mars (Incorrectly describing it as a UFO), as in how it couldn't exist, but Mr Good didn't seem to dismiss the idea out of hand. Interesting viewpoint.

They went on to talk about the recent Texas sighting of a mile-wide UFO, without sensational comments or any debunking involved, and Mr Good related the Jersey sighting as being potentially linked. Not quoting him verbatim, he inferred "something is going on".

[edit on 23-1-2008 by Beamish]

I just saw this on CNN and was shocked this got that far and has done so much damage to the real quest for proof. This is actually a random placement of elements. Please look before jumping to conclusions. Here is the EVIDENCE and the explanation.

This figure is a combination of foreground and background elements creating an illusion. The head is a rock IN THE BACKGROUND. The arm/forearm is the shadow of a feature in the ground BEHIND the foreground rock. See similar in all the diagrams.

These images outline the illusion.


Diagram

First, see that a rock that is roundish just happens to be behind the foreground rock mistaken as a torso shape. If the camera was a few inches to the side this would be obvious. Second, the arm is a shadow of a background shadow in the ground, and that is why the below images have no dark shadow.

Also, this cannot be more than the size of a small cat. About 12-14 inches high at the most. When you scale for the rover solar panels and allow for distance to lens it is plain that this is a small visual illusion.

Fig 1.


POINT 1:
Look at the colors. They demark differences in reflected frequencies of light. Notice the Yellow is related to the stony materials the rocks are composed of. The light blue is shadow, but from all the foreground and background. Now notice that there is no yellow in the supposed right arm of this figgure. Also notice that the shadows on the small rocks in the background field have the same blue as the arm.



Fig 2.

POINT 2:

You will see that the body of the rock has a dark reddish cast, but the arm has a pinkish cast as all the other background. This is very plain sight difference meaning that what you might call an arm is part of the background yards away.



Fig 3.

POINT 3.

Notice that yellow shows the rock material, but that where rock would be in the arm there is no yellow. Meaning that the right arm we seem to see is actually not solid but is a shadow of a smaller rock in back of the larger rock. Also the head (so called) seems to show little or no yellow, or solid material. That too could indicate it being a shadow or coincidental placement of an object or it's shadow behind the rock.


Fig 4.


POINT 4.

This one is fairly clear. See how the shadow of the rock is easily seen as dark almost black, but where a shadow would be under the arm does not exist. It is a solid orange, but of the same orange as the colors in the sand and rocky materials in the area well behind the rock in question. The head seems to shadow ok, but the arm is not an arm, so does not.

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I did this all with simple tools in Photoshop CS3 using color saturation, curves and other filters. I never touched or changed anything manually. Just clipped the area, applied filters and adjustments.

This is why it is important to look closer at these things and be able to see this before making wild speculations and judgments. There could very well be bronze sculptures from ancient Martian civilizations on Mars, but I could tell this was likely not that, without doing all the work to prove it to you.

To see how this effect can fool the eye, read my last couple posts here again and look at Bev Doolittle's work on the link provided below. She very cleverly uses this very effect to paint hidden images within her works. A method I also have used in illustration.
Bev Dolittle

NASA loves this because they can now more easily discount anyone who actually finds compelling evidence as wackos. Anyone familiar with visual illusions knows what this is. Please, lets use some discretion when expounding on armchair amateur theory's. There are important features to see in this image no one has considered. I do this work professionally and am a science illustrator and have contracted to NASA.


I hope we all got an education here. I can't do this all the time. You guys try this at home and show us some good stuff on other posts. We need more people to help us show that there are strange things and possible evidence of other life on Mars and in space/Earth and Moon findings.

This was to prove you where all mistaken unfortunately. I would of rather have shown you where right, but I saw it was a dead end. So much for thinking that was over.

See the Glass Tunnel Tubes in orbital images that are leftover from melted tunnel surfaces being exposed over time. Now that is something to look closer at.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Zeroghost, thank you very much for that erudite, balanced, well presented explanation. Amongst other things, it's posts such as yours (and the occasional troll baiting session), that keeps me coming back to ATS. It's comforting to know their inteligent, rational members out there.

And I agree about the Martian "tubes"...now there's something scary to behold, never mind consider the possibilities as to what they may be.
Photographs of that phenomena have the same effect on me as gazing on Renaissance art: both are completely hypnotic, thankfully raise more questions than answers, and are sources of outstanding beauty.

Could even be a statute.

Statutes are often found in ruins. This look like it could be the top of a cliff or building that has been sand swept and has the statute on top. Take Rio de Janeiro in a thousands years from now for example.

Originally posted by rikriley
reply to post by Enceladus

 

What you are looking at is what I have called the Sandmaries, tiny tiny humanoids, that I first discovered and named from the Sojourner Pathfinder Mission photos. This particular photo here in this thread has been doctored for us to not quite make out what we are seeing, other then the outline of the being it looks humanoid in shape. The Sandmaries wear clothes and conceive their young as we do on Earth. A photo was taken showing a naval to exist on a female Sandmarie. This was a posed for the camera photograph intentionally showing and exposing the naval for all to see. In other words the Sandmaries realized they were being photographed.

I discovered these lifeforms from ground zero photos on the surface of Mars and this included the Marmies, Marockies and Microtechs. I was shocked to see how tiny the Sandmaries were and at first I thought impossible that they would average from 4 to 6 inches in height. The more I looked for life on Mars the more I found life to be real on Mars.

Lets discuss the catastrophic event that took place on Mars. After the Great Martonian War much of the population on Mars was wiped out. I theorize thermal nuclear war took place many years ago because of skeletal humanoid and alien remains as well as ruins scattered around many craters edges on Mars. The vast Eastern hemisphere region was pounded into submission. I feel this is a similar war that we humans on earth may have to fight against adversaries camped in our Solar System. I feel that mineral rights were at stake as well as Imperial Council Authority.

When the dust settled from the horrific war on Mars the natural resources were depleted and surface water contaminated. The decision from the underground survivors I believe was to genetically engineer a tiny tiny humanoid life form to live on the surface of Mars. The tiny Sandmaries are the ones I believe were created by the large humanoid beings, I call Martonians, to first walk the surface of Mars. I believe the Sandmaries tiny size was predetermined as to not use up the natural resources as quickly as a larger race of beings.

Getting back to the discussion of the Pathfinder the Sojourner rover headed off to take photos of the Martonian terrain. To my surprise the rover stumbles upon four skulls that were lined up as to be arranged for we humans on Earth to see that life did or still does exist on Mars.

The largest skull is that of a large humanoid skull with a big nose and with three holes in line for the extruded electronic looking ear. The chin had fallen away on the ground from the jaw bone and skull and this definitely has some kind of age to it that I cannot determine looking at the artifact.

The second skull is that of a cyborg with elongated cylindrical head, protruding rounded eyes with extremely long pointed nose. I determined the nose was used for sensing and parts of the head are made of what to me looks like electronic components of some kind.

The third skull looks half animal half humanoid with rounded eyes and an uneven ridge running on top center front to back of the skull similar to this design ^^^^.

The fourth skull reminds me of one of the Earth's Moon skulls discovered and photographed during our manned missions. This skull looks familiar every time I look at it and is as though I know of these beings in my mind. The ear holes are high upon the skull and the cranial frontal cap is very large and the alien being contains larger eyes.

There is no doubt to me that life exists on Mars because I have seen many lifeforms since I have started scanning and viewing Mars many years ago from satellite and ground zero missions photographs. Rik Riley





[edit on 22-1-2008 by rikriley]

I would love to see those pics.

reply to post by ZeroGhost


I understand this is your professional opinion and I can see what you are referring to. But. Thanks to your filtering I now see a stick or wand in its outstretched hand.

Your pictures convinced me more that this may just be something significant. Think I will save this photo just in case NASA retracts it.

this is going to be a hot subject for some thime.

If this is only one image one must ask what else NASA has that is not being shown

I don't think scale is an issue here. Look at the "original" image and just compare the size of the visible portion of the rover's body to the size of the object.

The view is consistent with the Rover being perched atop a hill/cliff of some kind and looking down at the panorama.

Little green men?
Mars?
Hmmmmm!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Rhain
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

I understand this is your professional opinion and I can see what you are referring to. But. Thanks to your filtering I now see a stick or wand in its outstretched hand.

Your pictures convinced me more that this may just be something significant. Think I will save this photo just in case NASA retracts it.

Making visual associations is not science we are discussing here. That sort of thing is a psychological issue and usually isolated to an individuals associative internal visual library and a therapist. With that and a Roshak test you can maybe prove you are sane.

We can maybe see a bunny in a cloud formation, but that does not then explain little round meteors coming out of the sky.
You really need to do some work to convince us otherwise. I not only do not see "a wand" I also do not see any sense in continuing this investigation unless you can find additional tangible evidence or compelling (intellectual) argument.

Go look at the link to the Glass tunnels link I gave you. I am sure you might see something more exciting than a two inch wand.

ZG

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by rikriley

 

I had to read a part of your post twice, rikriley. The first time because it was the next reply in line, the second time because of this:

There are many reptiles on Mars as well as birds and yes I have seen ducks on Mars and ducks need water as well as the other lifeforms.

Ducks?

DUCKS?

Are you being serious? No, of course you're not (hopefully). You certainly have a strange sense of humour there.

Back on topic: I keep looking at the picture, I've even searched almost all of it on high resolution. There are plenty of other shadows, odd shapes and simulacra that could be misconstrued as something they're not.
The figure in question, however, does seem to be unique in the photo, insomuch as it still stands out as something unusual, and potentially anomalous.

Note: Sky News has just (7:55pm GMT) carried an article about the photo. They had Timothy Good on as an expert witness, a small miracle in itself, who said he believed we are looking at a simulacra. The reporter asked about life on Mars (Incorrectly describing it as a UFO), as in how it couldn't exist, but Mr Good didn't seem to dismiss the idea out of hand. Interesting viewpoint.

They went on to talk about the recent Texas sighting of a mile-wide UFO, without sensational comments or any debunking involved, and Mr Good related the Jersey sighting as being potentially linked. Not quoting him verbatim, he inferred "something is going on".

[edit on 23-1-2008 by Beamish]

No I was not being funny about seeing ducks on Mars. The Mallard duck was on the ground and photographed by the Sojourner rover as well as a tiny duck statue with 3 humanoids and one grey carved into a rock, I called Mount Marsmore.

When I first viewed what I called Mount Marsmore I am thinking the size of Mount Rushmore but knowing the size of the Sojourner I realized the rock and carvings were very small. This is not a joke. Rik Riley

It looks more and more like the bigfoot pic to me. I wonder how the writters of the Six Million Dollar Man knew that Bigfoot was an alein? One of my favorite episode indeed.

Regards,
Trustnobody

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by ZeroGhost

 

Zeroghost, thank you very much for that erudite, balanced, well presented explanation. Amongst other things, it's posts such as yours (and the occasional troll baiting session), that keeps me coming back to ATS. It's comforting to know their inteligent, rational members out there.

And I agree about the Martian "tubes"...now there's something scary to behold, never mind consider the possibilities as to what they may be.
Photographs of that phenomena have the same effect on me as gazing on Renaissance art: both are completely hypnotic, thankfully raise more questions than answers, and are sources of outstanding beauty.

Yea, now that is interesting. Renaissance art too. I was a Leonardo fan, science-art master was a good personal hero for my future field as a science illustrator.

I have read and heard testimony on some of the tunnel building techniques the military has used here for secret bases and facilities. Philip Schneider, a military geology engineer, before he died (or was killed), spoke on many such techniques for tunneling. One such tunneling method was actually melting the rock with a plasma field or such and leaving behind a shiny glass-like surface. Imagine a few thousand or more years later when errosion or seismic disturbances expose these tunnels. They would look like these I would suspect.

So much on Mars worth looking at, but we are looking through the cocktail straw of NASA unfortunately.


ZG

This is a pretty intense photograph, and I hope it's actual life on Mars, but I can't help thinking it is some random rock formation that we're making a big fuss about. Check out this picture for example. It's the same photograph as the one that's being discussed, only in a different spot.



To me, it looks like a pair of legs hanging over the side of the rock, and to the left of that, or right, whichever you prefer, it looks like some sort of toy plane.

Originally posted by menguard
I NOTICED something strange about a invisible object. just curious.

Hmmmm....Now how in the name of Mars can you see INVISIBLE objects????

[edit on 24-1-2008 by mikesingh]

Originally posted by ZeroGhost

Diagram

First, see that a rock that is roundish just happens to be behind the foreground rock mistaken as a torso shape. If the camera was a few inches to the side this would be obvious. Second, the arm is a shadow of a background shadow in the ground, and that is why the below images have no dark shadow.

Also, this cannot be more than the size of a small cat. About 12-14 inches high at the most. When you scale for the rover solar panels and allow for distance to lens it is plain that this is a small visual illusion.

ZG, Spot on!! I ran it through a few filters and enhancements too and came with exactly what you posted in the pic above.

NASA is trying to make us look like morons and we're falling headlong into the trap! Next time if there's something genuine, they'll turn around and say, "hey! You guys really are morons!"

I wonder if the 'alien' image has been added to the photo? Why...well it would certainly take our attention away from the fact that there seems to be evidence of ancient trackways on the right of the original panormaic view. There is a track running into the distance with a triangular joining of smaller tracks and these look to be the same as we find on our own open moorlands here in the UK -made by neolithic man and still evident today in an erroded form, just like those in the Mars photo.....
Anyone else see the resemblence?

reply to post by ZeroGhost


An excellent post ZeroGhost!!! Some good solid thinking and demonstrations here! We need a few more of you my old son, and less of they types that run to the hills screaming "They're here!" whenever a strange picture turns up!

I'm staggered that some of the broadsheets covered the story here in the UK, I expect the tabloids too, but really it went way to far!

Congratulations again.

I've been showing this picture of the alleged Alien to several people ever since it came out in some media channels.

The most asstonishing thing what I encountered with asking "what's this?" and I made the funny comment like; "this are the little men from Mars"....

You kow what people said to me? It's a WOMAN! NOT a little MAN! hehehe, I was really giggling, but then I noticed the boobs! (zoom in on it, and you'll see it clearly)

below the "arm" you'll see the boobs.

what they also said is that they were thinking "sex" and in a way of it's a famous stateu of a woman. A whore even .... And yes, we were discussing this seriously. we were googleing all kind of statue's from all places but we didn't find the right one......

some said to me, "NOOOO, impossible, it is a rock." And I could only add, "well, a lot of people think this to, and just want it to be a rock."

If it's a replica of a famous statieu from the past, then it's even more wicked... how did it get there? Who put it there? WHY?

It has the view of a walking Bigfoot woman. It also reminds me a littlebit of that Mermaid Statue, ( like here ) but in another pose.....


But maybe is Nasa screwing with us again, as always ...

what I also noticed, if you look at the left below of the "humanoid"... there's something what looks like as if it's a track of something of some sort. No? At least it looks lika a track of some sort there to me......

[edit on 24-1-2008 by Spidersnarf]