A rant about FAT

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


I suppose the 'reply to Duzey' part is kind of misleading.

I'm not insecure and I don't normally consider myself to be confrontational and aggresive, although assertive may apply. What I am is sick of people who want everyone to fit into their idea of what is right.

To be blunt (and perhaps slightly aggressive):

The idea that a complete strangers weight or health is any of your business is ridiculous. To make assumptions about them is ignorant. To make any comment to them about it is one thing and one thing only - hurtful to that person.

I'm not saying you hurt me, but I've lived long enough to not give a damn what people think. There are plenty of people who don't have my temperment, and these kind of things cut them to the bone. It's those people I get annoyed on behalf of.

reply to post by Duzey


How many times do I have to say to you directly, "I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE OR HOW HEALTHY YOU ARE. YOU ARE YOUR OWN PERSON AND I SHOULD HAVE NO BEARING ON YOUR LIFE." So, quite being so controversial. It's annoying. I've offered nothing but my help. If you don't want it, don't take it. Stop being such a victim, especially when most everybody here has been nothing more than cordial.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


Yes, you have offered help, which is admirable. My issue is the manner with which you offer help:

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
It's easier than people think, but people have a hard time booting complacency.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
Even though you may think you're "healthy," by other standards you may not be. If you have excess fat or weight that can be shed, you might as well shed it.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
But, all three of you can keep getting defensive and refuse to be more open minded to new ideas, especially those of which that may take more effort than you're seemingly used to.. Sounds like your perspective and openness has done a lot for you so far.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
If your aggressive tone and confrontational attitude don't cry insecurity, I don't know what does. If you were truly comfortable with yourself, I don't see why you'd be so irritated by these pretty modest questions and statements. Settle.

They're full of assumptions! Complacency, lack of effort, insecurity - if you want to be supportive and offer help to people, great! Super-duper! Just leave out the assumptions about people.

reply to post by Duzey


They're not assumptions, but observations.

I'll never be model skinny and I don't much care. Other people can go stuff themselves.

Contentment, complacency.

Both of those breed some "lack of effort." More indifference than a lack of anything. There's nothing wrong with trying harder and bettering your over-all health. Nothing argumentative in someone presenting that point either. I wasn't looking for an argument. You went out of your way in an aggressive manner. Tell tale sign of insecurity.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


After a brief walk to the grocery store and some fresh air, I've come to this conclusion.

Somewhere right now, there is a man reading this thread laughing his butt off, thinking 'I can't believe that DFB thought that giving women discussing their weight advice on how to lose weight would go anything but poorly.'

I think I'll leave it at that.

reply to post by Duzey


This whole thing has really exploded into one big, ridiculous mess. I don't know how we seem to get into it over the most trivial things, but we do. It's fate that you and I will always get into it. Any bets on what the next "most dumb subject ever argued over" will be?


My apologies in advance.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


I'm not even going to speculate. It would ruin the surprise.

Originally posted by Duzey


Somewhere right now, there is a man reading this thread laughing his butt off, thinking 'I can't believe that DFB thought that giving women discussing their weight advice on how to lose weight would go anything but poorly.'

I think I'll leave it at that.

That would be me.

Joke about Buddha……

How can a 500 pound fat man teach other people about self discipline?

:w:

Don't know if it's supportive to the thread topic....but it's hell funny...


[edit on 21-1-2008 by andre18]

Originally posted by Duzey
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues

 

As for my actual diet, in case you're curious as to why I carry that extra weight, here it is:

Breakfast - yogurt, banana, milk
Snack - carrots
Lunch - Almonds (15 - I count them out), broccoli, banana (I love bananas!)
Dinner - usually stir-fried veggies, sometimes soup and sandwich (always broth, never cream based), milk

I eat like this because it's extremely easy and being a single person, I don't have to worry about keeping food other people like in the kitchen. Once a week, I do have pepperoni pizza for dinner with my sister.

I'm sure I'm missing out a bunch of nutrients and minerals, but after eating all that broccoli at lunch and drinking lots of water throughout the day, I don't have room for much else.

Why do you count the number of almonds you eat?

Here's your nutrition breakdown:
You are low in Vitamin D (50% RDA)
Slightly low in Niacin, Folate, Selenium. (80% RDA)

Just take a D+Calcium supplement plus a good multi-vitamin and you'll be OK.

Good luck!

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


I never mentioned discussing how curable diabetes is nor did I say the nutrition plan that my husband is following is the only way. We were discussing dairy products. You said they are bad and I disagreed. Drinking skim milk and enjoying fat free and sugar free dairy products have helped my fiance with his weight and diabetes. Is it the only way? Of course not, but it is working for him.

Where I come from a gret majority of the women look like supermodels. Not all of them are bone skinny, but they range from sizes 0-10. This is in a texas town of a little over 100,000. Not a huge place full of hollywood stuff. It's really all about diet and exersize, 2 things I don't do at all lol (I'm a fatty btw :cryb. There's also those folks with high matabolisms, they're usually annoying, so I don't think I want to be one of them. I don't mind people calling me fat and telling me why I'm fat, I'm not offended by it at all.

Stands in front of podium, taps the microphone to see if its on, takes a deep breath and speaks...


Hi everyone...My name is Ducky, and I'm...

Mid-waist gravitationally challenged

I don't stick my finger down my throat to >>

I rather enjoy my meals thankyou very much!

Probably a little too much but HEY...I don't feel the need to enjoy my food, the 2nd time around (unlike purgers and bingers) I think ONCE past the gullet is enough.

When I walk, I hold my beak high. My thighs aren't slapping together and doing the cha cha on the bongos or anything.

Nobody has to throw fish at my underarms to see if its swallowed whole (appologies to the pelicans).

YES...I'm overweight, YES, I'm doing something about it (probably burned off a few calories just typing this post out)


WOW...that felt rediculously good to say that?!?!? lololol


Disclaimer: No bingers or purgers were severely strangled or hurt in any way, while fantasizing over having their skinny, leggy......oops sorry folks..

~Ducky~

reply to post by Badge01


Thank you for the nutritional breakdown. I'm surprised it turned out as well as it did. I thought you got vitamin D from sunshine. Is that an old wives tale?

I have no idea why I count my almonds - I've got a few little quirks like that. I also have an overwhelming need to check for my keys several times throughout the day. :shk:





[edit on 21-1-2008 by Duzey]

reply to post by TheDuckster


I think if we try eating slowly, we could solve our weight problems.

reply to post by Duzey


"you have voted Duzey for the imaginary way above top secret award."

Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
There's also those folks with high matabolisms, they're usually annoying, so I don't think I want to be one of them.

Yeah, there are definitely some pitfalls to having a high metabolism. I have a high metabolism, and I'll admit that it has a number of benefits. I can drink a pretty good amount of alcohol, but rarely get hangovers. In fact, rarely am I even still buzzing when I leave a bar. I also rarely have fluctuations with my weight, and am pretty slender naturally.

The bad thing about a high metabolism, I didn't learn until I had surgery for the first time a few months ago. I require more anesthesia, which the doctors attributed to my metabolism. Even the combo of relax-y drugs they put in my IV had to be doubled, because the first one barely touched me. As soon as they took the mask off of me (whatever that was) I was talking, (but was raspy and whispery) and asking coherent questions. NOT the way that people are supposed to come out from under anesthesia.

I am happy with who I am, and I wouldn't want to change myself. But I have definitely learned that the grass is not greener on the other side. I get tired of friends and family saying that they wish their bodies worked more like mine. I wish I could take normal, over-the-counter medications, but they don't work.

To anyone who is happy with their body, that is awesome! To anyone who wants to lose or gain some weight, good luck to you and don't quit! To anyone who is possibly envious of someone else's body type... it might not be the picnic you think it is.

That one line that I quoted kind of threw me off of the topic at hand, but I felt like joining in on the ranting. Thanks.

reply to post by undiscoveredsoul


Unfortunately, genes play the biggest role. Some people can work their butts off and still be considered heavy. Genes play a HUGE role.

If you are interested in trying to lose some, talk to a professional nutritionist, about the right diet, and a personal trainer.

2 things you might want to check out are circuit training and/or lactic acid training. Both will help shed fat like crazy. But remember, some people, no matter what they do, will never have their ideal body.

Penn & Teller actually did a show on this on their Emmy winning B.S. Maybe you could rent it and check it out. They did a really good job of showing just how big of a role genes play in our bodies.

[edit on 1/22/2008 by bigbert81]

reply to post by LordInfamous


Oh c'mon now. Just because some people are thin doesn't mean they're cokeheads. Genes and exercise can do a much better job.

And saying things like this just gives people ammo for a defense mechanism.

reply to post by bigbert81


I saw P&T's show on that, and I agree, genetics plays a large part.

However, what's also important to remember is that exercise is only a small part of the equation unless you're doing an all day high intensity sport, such as bicycle stage racing, or nordic ski endurance racing.

It's much easier not to eat so much. You can run more than a mile on the energy contained in an apple:

One large apple = 125 calories
Calories to run a mile at 12 min/mile pace = 90 calories
Calories to run a mile at 10 min/mile pace = 97 calories
Calories to run a mile at 8 min/mile pace = 99 calories

Best method?
Record your caloric intake for two weeks, find your maintenance, eat 500 calories under, lose a pound/week.

Additional exercise is optional