Jehovah is an Evil God!!!

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Because I'm sure he is practiceing todays Organized Religion which comes from, Rome.......

Originally posted by XcLuciFer


Because I'm sure he is practiceing todays Organized Religion which comes from, Rome.......

Ah it comes from Babylon, you mean?

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by XcLuciFer


Because I'm sure he is practiceing todays Organized Religion which comes from, Rome.......

Ah it comes from Babylon, you mean?

LOL I love it. Have you ever heard of baby steps, thats what I am attempting to do here. I holding elementary school here not college get my drift..

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When you are explaining something as complex as religion you have to cover all the different stages, you can't just skip Rome and start talking about Babylon. That would be leaving out vital info on why things are the why they are to day. If you back track Rome comes before Babylon.

Undo that post wasn't even directed towards you, why are you responding for that guy!

Originally posted by XcLuciFer
Undo that post wasn't even directed towards you, why are you responding for that guy!

Well Babylon is an entity of sorts. It walks down thru history to the final days of this particular council of 70. "History is a statue." Ya know your prophecy yes?

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Where are you going with this, Please make your point.

Originally posted by XcLuciFer
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Where are you going with this, Please make your point.

The Roman Empires were Babylons. The Grecian Empire, was Babylon, the Medo-Persian Empire was Babylon. You had mentioned "organized religion." It all started in ancient Eridu (sumer), which was the site of the Tower of Babel (later called the Etemenanki). It was wiped and restarted by Nimrod and co. in the late akkadian early babylonian period, where the whole thing started anew, and from there, history is measured. ("history is a statue" is a daniel reference)

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Again what is your point? LOL I'm getting a strange vibe from you. You made the mistake of answering a post that was directed at some one else, and on top of that you totally misunderstood the post or you read something that wasn't there. What are you trying to prove?

Originally posted by XcLuciFer

What are you trying to prove?

Erm, that I'm old and dain-bramaged? lol I'm trying to follow your line of conversation. You said he was after a roman god. Well, i asked why you thought that. You said you thought that because organized religion is roman based. I said well, it's actually babylonian based and even eariler if you consider the site on which the thing started all over again, was the same exact site of Enki's E.ABZU, (the tower of babel, the etemenanki).

Here's a link that explains the site, itself

ETEMENANKI (The Tower of Babel)
www.livius.org...

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Did you not read my step by step post? I'm well aware of were things come from. Please get over it and lets move on.

Originally posted by XcLuciFer
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Did you not read my step by step post? I'm well aware of were things come from. Please get over it and lets move on.

I guess I didn't.
Where's your step by step post?
And where we movin' to? Where's that phoenician info you promised? I'ma waitin' ta hear it.

I apologize in advance if this offends anyone, as that is not my intent, but frankly, alot of this -- ancient religions are fairy tales -- stuff is not based on historical precedent, archaeological precedent or any variation thereof. It's a misunderstanding of our ancient past, based on the scientific understanding of 300 years ago. They limited the believablity of the ancient texts based on their understanding of the natural world. Men couldn't fly, babies could only be created via the birth canal and so on. And when archaeology started proving otherwise, they refused to backtrack.

For example, they said Gilgamesh was just a fairy tale. That was until his city was discovered. They said greeks couldn't write in the timeframe in which the egyptian timelines were set. That turned out to be inaccurate too but they didn't backtrack on that either. Most of what you read in mainstream history is just a big tangled up mess because it tries to reinterpret the past by leaving out huge chunks of it.



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After a dozen pages, am I correct in reading that the author of this thread states "Jehovah is an Evil God!!!" with a few OT quotes to dupe others into posting their beliefs so the OP can then point out how stupid religions are and mocks others for not believing and/or knowing his self ordained truth?

The word "religion" means "bound by law". Once you realize we are no longer bound by law, religious debate is rather silly.

edit: I do find the humor in someone named XcLucifer wanting to teach and "enlighten" others in baby steps...

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First of all you admit to believing the bible, and believe that God actually carried out such punishment without any help or without any cause. If you look at history its not God who brings down such punishment its ourselves. Our disobedience brings what the natural cause is, death; but I don't see God with a sword or a M16 or being a terrorist. Its not God, its ourselves that kill each other, just turn on the television or read the newspaper. Its countries that go to war against each other, killing innocent beings not God. Unfortunately man didn't listen, still doesn't and continues to kill each, and God is in charge of all no live is taking without his knowing and approval. Seeing it at that view, he claims responsibility of it, just like a King would if his kingdom is producing killers (we chose, Adam chose, Eve chose, Countries choice). God is responsible, but we chose and continue on that path.

I'm sick of hearing these claims of God being the devil, he is in charge of the devil, Satan answers to him. Man can rebuke the Devil, just like Jesus did. God is god of light and darkness of course! The Father sent his Son, to die for our mistakes our sins, to turn our world around; to give his creation (the human race) a way out of this World Killing Dimension. Its us who kill and kill and kill; the more we don't wake up to this truth, we will continue to kill and blame God. Wake up!

Is it Gods fault? Yes? Tell the judge that.

We regulate nuclear energy because of it's potential to reek havick on civilization. I submit that what is needed now, is a regulatory body to ride herd over the churches, what with all the thousands of different denominations, preying on the vulnerable minds of the young, the old and the week, and then taking their money...and for the harmful effects psychologically that can result from exposure to the violence we see in the literature, and the persistent beliefs regarding the future destruction that awaits us all either in hell or on earth during the revelation. For those of us who of course submit to the dogma, we are told we will be spared that fate, but of course doubt persist primarily due to the fact that nobody has of yet produced this god, and so we feel abandoned, and so more money is given in hopes that it will wash away the guilt felt and in hope that the loneliness of having been left will go away...yada yada yada,

www.abovetopsecret.com...

is the link for the topic of regulating churches and religious activity, since it really is a branch of this and other religious topics. I really look forward to hearing what everyone pro and con has to say about this idea.

I love ATS, it gets everyone talking who otherwise, due to the polarity, might not ever come in contact with one another and share views on a subject.

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Originally posted by skyshow
I submit that what is needed now, is a regulatory body to ride herd over the churches,
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and then taking their money..

The problem with that is, you end up making more martyrs
The big guys like that cause it gives them the chance to manipulate popular sentiment. Shoot yourself in the foot. G'head. Time for you to take a course in human psychology, methinks.

You do, of course, realize that for every atheist who calls challenging the beliefs of billions, you just make your side look dumber. The same to every Christian who tries it vice versa. Why exactly can't you let people believe what they want?

in the Old Testament Jehovah was not seen as a ruler who reigned by himself. Occasionally he sought advice from others in heaven. On one occasion Jehovah was angry with Ahab and sought to bring about his death. Jehovah asked the question, "Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?" The question was debated indecisively by the heavenly host until one spirit stood before Jehovah and said, "I will persuade him…I will go forth and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets." When Jehovah agreed Ahab was duly killed.

I found this quite interesting. Jehovah, besides being angry and with murder on his mind, thus can not be the same as the New Testament deity or deities. During my earlier brainwashing days, they attempted to make me believe that they were all the same. Even Satan is one of their creations that wasn't around to war with Jehovah.

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Where did I ever state I was an atheist?