Cancer Cause and Cure - Could it be this Simple?

Star Gazer

The information that everyone has provided is very valuable. In the beginning of time man walked on the earth there were no hospitals or doctors. There was lots of natural plant food sources and fish, as well as nuts and berries in abundance. The roots of all medicine was taken from the natural resources of the earth.

We now live in a world that is no longer natural we live in a world that is synthetic that includes the medicines, foods and drink that we consume, not to mention that our air quality is not pure and clean like it once was at the beginning of time.

Most foods are either genetically moified or synthetic in nature our human bodies were not designed to eat or drink synthetic foods this also includes our everyday synthetic medcines and vitamins that are readily available at most stores.

Even today natural medicine is practiced by many tribes. These tribes still use the natural plants that grow in the rain forests. All medicines are derived from natural sources and when we mix synthetic meds with natural resources it's a recipe for disaster.

As for Cancer it feeds on sugar. An acid environment is normally caused from a high intake of sweets, grains and synthetic foods that mimic the estrogen and proestrogen in our bodies. First off we all need to avoid highly processed foods this includes dairy and high fat content specifically RED meats. (Green Foods/Drinks Vit. D) GREEN = SAFETY!

Our bodies need natural foods like GREENS, derived from brocolli, spinach, and cabage juice, as well as garlic or onions, red peppers are very healthy food sources that help to prevent cancer. And most cancers are hereditary there is nothing anyone can do when it's in the family genes. We can help to prevent cancer by using our blood typing as an information source to the types of illnesses or diseases our family members have had from past generations and speak to our doctors about following a good diet that may help to prevent specific cancers/diseases.

Seriously, I don't beleive that sodium bicarbonate alone can prevent cancer or any other diseases that inflict mankind today. We live in a world that is ruled by GREED and MONEY. The trees, bees and bats are disapearing from high levels of EMF. Now how is man suppose to cope with these changes if a simple life form like a bee, bat or bird is dying off? Sodium bicarbonate creates a very stong alkaline to acid blood ratio in our body, but if we continue to consume hormone laced foods or synthetic food or vitamins laced with aspartame or other synthetic sugars, then NO WAY will sodium bicarbonate or any other natural rememdy work for us, NOR will chemo work.

For all those who's family relatives have died from cancers please look at the hereditary factors and diet consumed, as well as the air quality at their homes, as well as their work places. Oxygen is the most important part of our life and when the air we breathe is not pure then no matter how healthy we try to live we end up with these toxins in our bodies. We introduce the same toxins in our bodies on a daily basis from cars, boats, planes, soft drinks, junk food, etc. The air, water, food and soil is contaminated with lead, mercury, benzene, and pcb's = CANCER!

Many people who have a strong immune system can fight off many diseases including cancer, providing that they are not genetically prone to such diseases. Most cancers can be avoided by ensuring a good air quality is met, as well as avoiding second hand smoke from cigarettes and incorporating a good nights sleep, minimizing stress and eating healthy foods and purifying their drinking water. Not one single human being can avoid cancer completely because the food we eat today is not the same food that our ancestors consumed 300 years ago. We need to visit Dr. Mercola's web site and read his books. More lives have been saved by his valuable resources. Thank You Dr. Mercola!

Star Gazer - Chandra - Intergalactic Beauty4U2!

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
...Secondly, I work for a University, I know cancer researchers, and what's to prevent any one of them from achieving sainthood by putting away the conventional methods and announcing...Bicarb of Soda!! ...

And yet, they refuse to even LOOK at the guys data. Hey, why don't you go talk to them, and see if they will even run ONE study. Let us know how that goes.

Try looking into Royal Rife sometime if you want to know about the cure for cancer. Look into legitimate patents he held, his education, what he said causes cancer, and WHAT THE AMA DID TO HIM WHEN HE TRIED TO CURE CANCER.

Originally posted by Scott Creighton


I came across this quite incredible paper (published Sept 2007) by an Italian doctor - Dr Tullio Simoncini - who has been successfully treating all forms of cancer in his patients for over 20 years.

His paper explains how the cause of all cancers is rooted in a common fungus - Candida Albicans - and the even more common cure is sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3).

And the really great news - sodium bicarbonate cannot be patented.

Regards,

SC

www.nexusmagazine.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Since publishing that article I have heard some AMAZING case results - all anecdotal at this stage - but I hope to have written confirmation of them soon.
One guy (here in Australia) had terminal lung cancer - with only months to live after treatment was unsuccessful - he took one teaspoon full, three times per day, in a glass of water - and totally cured himself of cancer in 6 weeks. He describes (a bit too colourfully for my liking) the type of stuff he was coughing up for the last 5 weeks. Apparently his doctors are amazed and baffled.

Duncan

Originally posted by sir_chancealot Try looking into Royal Rife sometime if you want to know about the cure for cancer.

OK, so chances are...God forbid, but odds are odds...that either you or somebody very close to you will come down with cancer. Are you telling me that you'll take a big pass-er-oo on the conventional medicine and go strictly alternative? You know they'll take your kid away from you for that. But the question remains...would you bet your life, or your childs life, that the AMA is out to get you and standard medicine is hooey?

Because unless you can say yes, your argument is empty.

However...I believe that one can use both in harmony, and I am indeed walking that walk. Don't worry about getting sick just to prove your point, though,sir_chancealot . Cancer ain't half the sh*ts n' giggles it's cracked up to be.

I am adding a quick self-edit to say that ATS currently boasts total member accounts of 138,318. Have any of us come forward to say "essiac cured my cancer...here's the corroborating data" or something like that? If so, I missed it.

[edit on 22-5-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by saturnsrings
If a drug company can keep some one alive for 10 years, by selling then $10,000.00 worth of drugs per year, versus selling them a pill for $100.00 and curing them, which would big business choose?

I'm certainly not going to come to the defense of Big Pharma, but the place where this 'supressed cure' argument falls flat is in the trenches. It requires every doctor who deals with cancer, and every researcher to be in on the big conspiracy. I don't buy that. I know researchers and finding a cure is their life's work. Some of them teach as well, and work hard to inspire others. This whole line of talk inpugns both their morals and their ethics, and I call balderdash.

Your logic is wrong. Every doctor does not have to be in on the conspiracy. Firstly, doctor's fields of study and practice are specialised or compartmentalised - and not a lot of bleed through (pardon the pun) takes place.

Second, take a look at their soures of infomation. Unless such papers like Simoncini get published in the (controlled) peer-reviewed medical journals - the average doctor will never ever hear about it.

Third, it is NOT worth the doctor's career to step out and investigate anything other than the accepted mainstream cancer treatments. Those who have are hassled and often deregistered if they persist. I personally know of about 13 such cases here in Australia alone.

Morals - don't even make me go there. I know doctors who will never immunise their own children, (because they eventually work out that the sideeffects are not worth the risk) but will happily immunise everyone else's.

I call balderdash on your ignorance on this post - doctors help kill over 2 thousand people per day in America alone, just from medical mistakes, mis or wrong diagnosis, etc etc (see other threads on iatrogenisis for stat sources)

There are so many cures for cancer it aint funny - and they ALL have one thing in common - they ALL kill foreign pathogens in the body that shouldn't be there. These pathogens can ONLY exist in an acidic bodily condition. The acidic bodily condition occurs especially when you eat anything with white sugar, white flour or white rice in it -(yes I know that there are a zillion other culprits, but refined sugar is by far the worst)

Doctors - bah! If I ruled the world - doctors would only get paid if they cured anything.

Duncan

Originally posted by nexusmagazine There are so many cures for cancer it aint funny

Well then, I'll refer you to the comments I made in my previous post...lemme know how it works out for ya.

The link does not work. Can anyone post the article please?

Thanks in advance

Originally posted by yankeerose
The link does not work. Can anyone post the article please?

Thanks in advance

My pleasure, you'll find it on this page:
www.nexusmagazine.com...

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by nexusmagazine There are so many cures for cancer it aint funny

Well then, I'll refer you to the comments I made in my previous post...lemme know how it works out for ya.

Yeah, well I can't comment about the people on ATS and their cancer successes - if any - but one of the things that sent me into alternative media was that when I worked in mainstream - I couldn't believe the number of people who had cured themselves of cancer, and couldn't understand why there weren't national headlines about it (this was back in the 80s when the war was on cancer, not terror).

I have published dozens of articles on different cancer cures, and I have scores and scores of letters from people telling me that they tried it and it saved their lives. I know of hundreds more cases who are friends of friends - with their own successes. Curing cancer is so easy it beggars belief - but you aren't gonna be told about it in the media.

Duncan

Duncan-

are you the owner of Nexusmagazine? If so, you own one of my favorite sites to read.


some of the stuff you put there is not so great...but for the most part it is at the very least thought provoking.

my favorite is the Siberian Valley of Death.

sorry for the off topic.

Originally posted by annestacey
Natural remedies can appear to be a hoax when people try them and they don't work. What they don't realize is that you can't experiment with natural remedies while you're exposing yourself to hundreds of cancer-causing chemicals everyday and expect the chosen "cure" to be effective.

Everyone carries a huge chemical burden and it increases everyday by the food you eat, the water you drink, the personal care products you use and the household cleaning supplies you use.

How can you expect to be healed of anything if you're using commercial toothpaste, dishwashing liquid, antiperspirants, makeup, lotion, laundry detergent, etc.?

Getting your body clean and healthy means walking away from all commercial products and keeping your exposure to chemicals as low as possible. It's a complete lifestyle change, not a quick fix.

I believe this poster is correct to either prevent or battle cancer.Now i dont know if this is true as this is second hand news,but a friend of mine once said that cancer is the result of lack of B17 vitamin.As i said i dont know how true it is and i will check this out.

Keep inmind that what works for one person may not work for others.But the lack of B17 theory might work.I dont know.Now the mind is going about this and curiosity is kicking in....

Check this site out;i just did a search for B-17 vitamin

www.1awesomeb17site.com...

Ill edit this post if i find more sites

Heres a site disputing claims

www.bccancer.bc.ca...

[edit on 22-5-2008 by Justice11]

I would definetly go with the greens as one poster has said.Theres a reason mom always said "no dessert until you eat your veggies!"Mom was right once again!

[edit on 22-5-2008 by Justice11]

cyanide...is the cure, bitter almonds, eat the seed of pit fruits, peaches, nectarines, plums, apple seeds too.

Originally posted by Herbal Oli
cyanide...is the cure, bitter almonds, eat the seed of pit fruits, peaches, nectarines, plums, apple seeds too.

Yep thats the info ive been getting.But people need to check it out for yourselves.Dont take our word for it.Info good or bad is out there.All it takes is the effort.

Regardless if medical agencies approve it or not,people themselves can decide what is working and what isnt.

The medical communities stance about autism is a prime example.While they claim thimerosal hasnt been put in vaccines since 2005 (from my sources)2003 according to the Bush regime(how convenient),they say that autism is still rising.Well of course it is as a by-product of coal burning plants is mercury,and who knows what else?.Since we know that there are more chemicals in our water supply and ground water from pollution then yes autism will continue to rise as a direct result of pollution in our environment.

Govt likes to potray environmentalists as either eco-terrorists or crackpots but that would be a grave mistake since much of what humans suffer from today is our own doing.Easy to blame others.Difficult to own up to it and admit we are wrong.

Unfortunately, the key sentence here is "can't be patented." That is the kiss of death to any natural cure or treatment. No drug companies will touch something like this, especially if it's cheap to make, they don't care if it cures cancer or any other disease. There's no billions of dollars to be made for them in it.

I have a close relative that is an Intellectual Property Attorney, and you wouldn't believe the things that have crossed his desk like this, same story, similar to this one, simple cures for common diseases that plague millions of people. And even if the person with the substance can prove the substances cure cancer, diabetes, arthritis, whatever, in animals etc. They can't get funding to try it on humans and don't have the money to do the years of testing it takes to jump through the FDA's hoops.

My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer last November. She's gone thru bilateral mastectomy, prelim reconstruction, chemotherapy and just last week another reconstruction.

We are concerned about our 2 very young daughters' futures, so we are looking into all kinds of things we can do for them while they're our dependants to decrease their chances of getting that icky disease.

One of the things we do is buy milk that claims to not come from cows treated with that growth hormone. Kemps Select here in the midwest.

Another is never heating food in/on plastic in the microwave.

No foods/drinks with aspertame...etc... Lots of little, easy, safe, albeit unproven steps.

Recently, we came across an article on sodium-bicaronate and the benefits of having a slightly higher alkaline to acid ph level for the health of the body and it's ability to fight disease. Problem we came up with is how the heck are we gonna get a 3 year old and 12 year old girl to drink baking soda and cider vinegar (think that was the other ingredient...tho i remember making a volcano for science class in grade school using that).

We then found an article written by a Farmer Ted or something like that - a way to combine maple syrup and baking soda into a concentrate that you could drink daily and the whole family would like it, and also his claim that the syrup would act as a binder and allow the body to absorb more of the bicarbonate before being flushed out thru urinary tract.
It involves boiling the 2 together stirring boiling again...long messy process to make just a single week's worth.
We are going to make it one of these upcoming weekends and try it for a while. I will report anything astonishing on ATS, though I'm really thinking PLACEBO EFFECT. But hey, if drinking the juices of overcooked broccoli and cabbage thru my nose would make my wife feel better, I'd do it.

Bottom line is, using alternative methods to fight off, prevent, or heck even try to cure terminal cancer is not necessarily a bad thing, but to ignore the high survivability rates of most cancers with conventional treatments would be foolish.

Sorry so long and gibberishy - i haven't got much sleep the past 6 months :

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Duncan-

are you the owner of Nexusmagazine? If so, you own one of my favorite sites to read.

some of the stuff you put there is not so great...but for the most part it is at the very least thought provoking.

my favorite is the Siberian Valley of Death.

sorry for the off topic.

Yes, that is me.

Provoking thought, and getting people to double-check their cherished or unconscious beliefs is my goal with NEXUS.

Sure we don't please everybody, but I don't publish it unless we good reason to believe the story as told. The Valley of Death is an amazing account. The more I have stepped outside of western information - the more I realise that the 'big picture' is almost unattainable. There is just so much stuff happening in other countries in 'NEXUS' topics that simply does not make the translation/cultural/language barrier - but we are working on changing that one day.

peace

Duncan

Originally posted by primus2012
Bottom line is, using alternative methods to fight off, prevent, or heck even try to cure terminal cancer is not necessarily a bad thing, but to ignore the high survivability rates of most cancers with conventional treatments would be foolish.

Here it is again....
I would never, ever, try to discourage anybody from exploring alternative therapies...in fact I prefer the term 'complimentary'. I readily acceded to brachytherapy...radioactive seeds...to treat prostate cancer, but...big but...I went to a naturopath and had her advise me on what could keep the side effects at bay. That, and I've been drinking essiac tea since diagnosis. I've had an easy time of it. Maybe the herbal products helped, maybe not. Ain't no way I'd have gone without the radiation, though.

To Primus, I'd consider essiac for your wife. Strictly anecdotal, but my choice of anecdotal. I figure if cancer has set up shop once, it just might again. (I can give you a reasonably priced source if you u2u me) Try the bicarb...whatever gives you comfort.

But when the doc says "Here, do this radiation, it will CURE you", who am I to argue? And this is a wiz kid from a recognised centre of excellence.

I've said it before...if you're prepared to let your kid do without standard medicine to fight cancer, then you're making a point. Not a smart one, IMHO, but a solid one. Anything else is bupkis.

Edit to say, Duncan, just because we disagree on this issue, don't think I don't appreciate the fine work you are doing with nexus. It's one of the first things I discovered on the web, and it's always been a source of interesting stuff. Keep it up!

[edit on 23-5-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]

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