I hereby pledge myself to the NWO

Why can't we have a NWO, without the chip....?

Good thread with some good points of view. What I've gathered after reading most of the posts here on this topic, the main point of argue is freedom vs. control. This has implications in freedom and responsibility. We wouldn't need control if all the people would be resposible; then they could have all the freedom and no control at all. But we must regonize that before responsible freedom can be implemented, a drastic enlightment must take place in majority of Earth's population. And we must also regonize the urgent need of some solution to prevent catastrophic wars of happening in future, we need it to stop the global pollution before the air will get unfit to breathe and food unfit to eat. As I see it, continuing with this nation-state model, we will end up chaos-like scenario where every nation and their people are only thinking of themselves; the strongest will prevail if it can in destroyed environment.

However, I object the idea of NWO but agree with the need of one world government that can regulate the relations of nations. The modern weaponry is devastating enough and surely if third (or fourth) WW would erupt, the next one would be fought with sticks and stones, as someone before me has put it. If it would be fought at all.

Way I see it, we need some solution because we cannot continue on current course (or we can, but with some really nasty consequences). I shall watch in which direction this 'one world government' project is going and then I shall decide, whether or not it is worth of supporting.

Why is freedom important to anyone? What exactly does freedom mean?

When people speak of great governments of control and power, and think that somehow the net effect will be beneficial and positive... they become entrenched into a particular kind of thought.

"We make the world BETTER, by teaching them what BETTER is."

"They just don't know any BETTER."

There are a great many people in this world who cannot agree upon what is "BETTER". It is folly to expect that a cultural vision of what is best is going to coincide with a worldwide vision, no matter how hard the West tries to propagate its viral memes.

It is just as viable, and far more likely, that people won't care what you think is best... so much as what they feel is best for THEM. Essentially, if you want people to embrace the NWO, you want them to abrogate personal decision about their respective destinies, discard any individual dreams in respects to what the collective itself needs.

The more deviation from the norm a person is, the more likely they are to be disruptive to the cause in a subtle or not-so-subtle fashion. Whose vision will supercede the visions of the small? Whose dream will replace the dreams of the meak?

The power that rules is not always the mask that all of us choose to wear.

I wanna become a cyborg too!
sarcasm

Originally posted by tvgraphics
After numerous years of hearing about the negative aspects of the NWO, I have decided... it isn't all that bad afterall. In fact, I find the positive aspects of it overwhelming. A world without borders, a world with a single global currency, a world where the only enemies are those who foolishly oppose the governing body. It could be worse - it could be what we have right now, in our current day and age.

I can see how you would think a one country world would be better then what we have know. Your right in one way it would be better if we could unite under one banner in the perfect world. The truth is we live in a world not even close to perfect.

The problem is mankind is greedy, and when you have a person (persons) trying to take over the world the only thing that saves you is the fact other country's will not stand for it and fight back. With what the NWO wants we would not be able to fight back and would become prisoners to the leaders of the NWO, That is if we were the lucky/unlucky ones to live through the 80-90% reduction of the Earth's population as we know it.

The saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" is 100% true that that is the main reason we can never unite under one country/nation.

Originally posted by The Keeper
With what the NWO wants we would not be able to fight back and would become prisoners to the leaders of the NWO, That is if we were the lucky/unlucky ones to live through the 80-90% reduction of the Earth's population as we know it.

More wild assertions about what would happen in an NWO. Robotic mind control, concentration camps (although if you had mind control, why would you need camps?), slavery, dogs living with cats, etc., and so on. Got any actual proof to back up that kind of statement? No, just paranoid ramblings.

Here's an idea. What if instead of fighting them, you became one of the leaders? Then you could make sure all the bad stuff everybody is afraid of wouldn't happen. Somebody has to be a leader, after all. The NWO is not just one guy in charge.

Join up. That's gonna be your best bet no matter what you think will happen.

Originally posted by Nohup


More wild assertions about what would happen in an NWO. Robotic mind control, concentration camps (although if you had mind control, why would you need camps?), slavery, dogs living with cats, etc., and so on. Got any actual proof to back up that kind of statement? No, just paranoid ramblings.

Here's an idea. What if instead of fighting them, you became one of the leaders? Then you could make sure all the bad stuff everybody is afraid of wouldn't happen. Somebody has to be a leader, after all. The NWO is not just one guy in charge.

Join up. That's gonna be your best bet no matter what you think will happen.

All I can say to that is for you to show your proof that they don't plan to do any of the things above. Oh wait a minute you don't have any real proof yourself. Here's an idea stop promoting things you don't know the truth about.

Why would anyone want to join them? its not a dinner club if your not a leader of the NWO now or in the family's that lead it your never going to get into the elite few. I am sure they would love the support but when it comes time they will drop you just as fast as everyone else.

I believe we are in the beginning stages of finalizing the NWO agenda that can't be stopped by any group. It's nice to have the notion of free speech on this site as long as I don't hurt someone's feelings.

People Don't Deserve To Be Free.

Originally posted by andre18
Why can't we have a NWO, without the chip....?

That is the real question. If the NWO is so wonderful, why do they need the chip?

It isn't about the NWO.... It is all about the chip. The chip gives real power to the elite, not the NWO. The NWO is just the bait..... The chip is what makes the NWO successful.

It is peace and security ONLY after everyone is chipped.

United by our FEAR and or GREED, fear for our lives and greed for a better economy, to sacifice all our freedom and possesions to the the NWO and the chip.

One gigantic cult, that their pervious religious cults were unable to achieve.

They tried out their military NWO with NAZI germany but failed without the chip. This new technology will give them far better domination and control over the masses then what their militaries, economies, religions and governments that they control right now ever will.

We still have a wonderful NWO without the chip, but not with them intensionaly creating chaos to deceive the masses into getting chipped for even better security.

If you think the soon to be rulers are bad now, wait and see how much worse they will become after the chip and the NWO. It has never been about the people or a better world, it has always been about them. They never had good intentions, their methods do reflect their true nature.

Deceive, Divide and Conquer.

Do not fall for the system that these elites' have planned. There is always a better way, they just want you to think that their's is the only way.

Stay vigilant.

[edit on 2-2-2008 by ixiy]

Ah sheep: It’s so soft and wooly. The contentment of having a belly rubbed is enough to say ‘Bah’ anytime. There are lots of free amenities for being sheep: food, medical care, shelter AND annual visits at the shears. Yup: Being well kept inside a prison-like enclosure and protected against the hungry mouths of any predators are more than a sheep could ever want and need.

Of course, I’m poking fun at the whole notion that this ‘NWO’ could control each of us and remove our freedom by tagging our bodies with chip implants or tracking our whereabouts with video surveillances. I cannot imagine us as sheepmeats ending up on tables, especially poor Mary’s little lamb. It’s not fair!

[edit on 2008-2-2 by pikypiky]

This sounds like an attempt by the poster to raise hackles. Who would dare come into ATS and admit that? Seriously? Either "it's" fishing, or simply the poster is telling the truth. Me, I believe "it's" called "longlining."

the NWO plans ain´t so sacred any more, so it will become very hard for´them´ to get people willingly accept them.

The new world order will never succeed. People are waking up in record numbers and this will only increase. Take a look at the RealID act. This is being challenged by the states and the date of implementation is being pushed further and further back.

To prove my point take a look at how much money Ron Paul has raised. This money comes from the people unlike most other candidates. And this only proves we are waking up in record numbers.


To the author of the thread... you are nothing but an attention seeker.


[edit on 2-2-2008 by CPYKOmega]

Originally posted by CPYKOmega
The new world order will never succeed. People are waking up in record numbers and this will only increase. Take a look at the RealID act. This is being challenged by the states and the date of implementation is being pushed further and further back.

To prove my point take a look at how much money Ron Paul has raised. This money comes from the people unlike most other candidates. And this only proves we are waking up in record numbers.


To the author of the thread... you are nothing but an attention seeker.


[edit on 2-2-2008 by CPYKOmega]

high times that people woke up.
the gov wasn´t so clever to ignore all the complaints about the offcial 911 investigation. that was a fault.

Ron Paul is the best candidate, but what chance do you have against the murdock mass media machines?

Originally posted by tvgraphics
I say we just remove those who reject the NWO and allow those with the intention to build a brave new world to come together as a single united planet.

Yep i heard this theme before.
Thats why this thing is so dangerous.

I got nothing to hide to, but i dont agree with your NWO thing, but people like you want to remove me, thats why i have to be afraid of what you (NWO) can do.

Remove people like me and others for your so called NWO is the exact danger we should be carefull of.

The big brother system is not to catch criminals who have something to hide.
It is a system designed to remove every one who opposes it.
Like me.
And people like you state that they would like to do the job.

Good luck with your chip.

Originally posted by TheColdDragon
"We make the world BETTER, by teaching them what BETTER is."

"They just don't know any BETTER."

The more deviation from the norm a person is, the more likely they are to be disruptive to the cause in a subtle or not-so-subtle fashion. Whose vision will supercede the visions of the small? Whose dream will replace the dreams of the meak?

The power that rules is not always the mask that all of us choose to wear.

Yeah so who desides what is "better" for me ?
Who desides the "norm"

Where does any one get the autority from to deside these things for me and for others ?

Originally posted by jaamaan

The big brother system is not to catch criminals who have something to hide.
It is a system designed to remove every one who opposes it.
Like me.
And people like you state that they would like to do the job.

Good luck with your chip.

dont forget, the NWO guys for themselves dont get a microchip.
and they will use (and are using) false/disInfo to get people attacking each other, so they dont need to.
lie is a weapon.

Originally posted by tvgraphics
After numerous years of hearing about the negative aspects of the NWO, I have decided... it isn't all that bad afterall. In fact, I find the positive aspects of it overwhelming. A world without borders, a world with a single global currency, a world where the only enemies are those who foolishly oppose the governing body. It could be worse - it could be what we have right now, in our current day and age.

Here's my arm, implant me, track me and watch what I'm doing. I have no fears and I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you're interested where I'll be - check my place of work, then at the pub and then home. If I'm not there, I'm likely in transit to one of those three places.

When the final takeover is upon us and I've since pre-pledged myself to the powers of the NWO, maybe, just maybe, I'll have just a bit more of a chance of advancing my position in what's left of society. I say we just remove those who reject the NWO and allow those with the intention to build a brave new world to come together as a single united planet.

Hey, I'll continue to use my position in the television news media to be an agent of disinformation and deceit if needed. What else it going to take to get me involved even deeper? I am at your disposal.

I am ready to be illuminated - and if the NWO are reading this... be assured there are those who support you and your efforts.

i just never understand one thing....and that is......

you think its bad for us in this country? what about the innocent people that lose their lives overseas....just in iraq the stuff we hear about.....suck me...yea right its for the greater good......if it really was.....you dont have to go on killing innocents.....or even get them involved...most of the damn world is greedy and care for themselves only.....they're doing it for their own power....and so you can just shut up and listen to what they have to say....and do what they want. people really need to open their eyes.....if this is gonna happen....if something is honestly for a "good reason"....its worth telling people about....and definitely not getting so many others killed in the process of global salvation........get the # out. pardon the pun....its not intended to you....just dude.....do what you feel is right....but you gotta understand that there are innocent people HONESTLY dying around the world......for no apparent reason.......was it oil?.......in this nwo thats gonna be oh so great.....well, they cant live in it can they?

Directed towards the OP and anyone else who believes his views are justified.

You are a sellout to your human race...willing to conform to the status quo and wants of others, who don't give a rats ass about you, other than making a profit from your labor. I will fight to the death against the NWO because of there abuse of power, supression of knowledge and hoarding of the wealth while the majority of peoples' quality of life continues to fall! I am sick of being lied to and working so HARD to barely be able to support my family...but I understand your view, you mentioned you are on TV, thus you probably have achieved the "American Dream" because you are yet another overpaid incompent. You are in a large new home (with no threat of foreclosure) and drive your bling bling Escalade (look at me). FU, you are a waste of life and of no consequence to our human race. You no longer need freewill? Come be my slave! Work for me and give me all your money.