I hereby pledge myself to the NWO

Originally posted by survivor
but isn't your very post implying "lazy liberty" as in - as long as im alright stuff the rest of you. Isn't this what the members of the nazi party members in Germany were doing?. Surely as a species we are capable of so much more rather than subscribing to the dog eat dog attitude?.

I don't know where people get the idea that the NWO supports Nazi ideals. Foolish propaganda, apparently. The NWO fought and crushed the Nazis. The NWO is inclusive. It's not about racial bigotry. The measure of an individual is what they are able to accomplish, not who their grandparents were. A man is judged not by the color of his skin, but the content of his character.

As for the lazy liberty people, I'm sure you know the kind of person I'm talking about. The kind of able person that would rather sit around all day and smoke dope and take a government welfare check than bother themselves with actually working for a living like the rest of us. It doesn't include those who are too disabled to contribute, but those who believe everybody else should carry the load while they sit back it a fat, stoned stupor. Of course, they will be opposed to any organization that might make them get up off their asses, and they'll say all kinds of bad things about it.

The NWO isn't about dogs eating each other. It's about all the dogs pulling together like on a dogsled, to improve the lot of humanity as it mushes forward into the future. It's about establishing a state of opportunity and security, where people can enhance their lives and raise their families without threats from some other country or individual.

Yes, there will be a price. You'll have to give up the excuses you make to yourself and others as to why you don't succeed at your goals. The Order will try to make it easier, but it will still be hard for some people to face the truth of themselves.

I don't think people are spineless and afraid to fight.


I think they are't fighting because the NWO hasn't been proven to exist. You don't start a fight with something that you aren't sure is true or not. Sure, most people here believe the NWO is real and it is on it's way. But what if it isn't? If you go public and try to "fight" against something that isn't real, you will look like a lunatic. Thus basically screwing yourself over, because no one will ever take you seriously again. Everything you worked for in your life would be gone because you threw it away to fight something you "thought" was real.

When it is proven that the NWO is real, people will fight.

*Edited to correct a spelling error.

[edit on 16-1-2008 by Double Eights]

wow i love what's going on here. i definitely am intrigued and enlightened by these perspectives. it has given me something to think about. especially the rebuttals. good thread and a real tough situation to judge. ttt all the way with this one. i'll let the more articulate writers continue

Originally posted by DJMessiah
When you become slave to one order, with no form of resistance against their rule, what is to stop them from doing this?

It's very easy to throw out words like "slave" when talking about something like this. It's a loaded word, meant to evoke an emotional response. But just what are you talking about, really? A person is a slave if they are prevented by force from doing what they want to do. What is it that you'd like to do? Travel? Make money? Work your way up within a company? Why do you think none of these things will be available to you within the Order?

As for resistance, what exactly do you want to resist? A safe, secure home? The opportunity to live and raise your family without random threats from organized criminals, wild dictatorships, or bands of religious extremists? I don't see where you'd want to resist being protected from those things.

In my opinion, you're letting your fear of something different, something unknown, get in the way of rationally considering better alternatives to the current state of the world with its constant conflicts and foolish power plays between rival tribes. You've got it in your head that the Order represents some kind of fascist dictatorship where your life is at the mercy of some lunatic. Like I said, you need to see past this foolish propaganda.

Of course, it's easy to read Orwell's "1984" and imagine all kinds of dark scenarios that harken back to the Nazis. But what do you have to base those fears on? Conjecture? Rumors?

Nobody in their right mind would want to prevent you from becoming the most you can be in any society (unless you want to become the world's greatest mass murderer or bank robber, of course). The better you do, the more successful you are, and the happier you are, the more everybody benefits. Your individual success is so absolutely vital to the success of the NWO that it will do all it can to help you reach your potential. Some people will naturally do better than others -- we may all be created equal, but we are not robots -- but if you don't take advantage of all the opportunities the NWO has to offer, you have no one to blame but yourself.

It's very sad that the important work of the NWO must remain mostly hidden, but you are a perfect example of someone who would react violently to such a movement, even if it's for your own good. Like a wild animal caught in a trap that bites viciously at people who want to free it.

Originally posted by tvgraphics
After numerous years of hearing about the negative aspects of the NWO, I have decided... it isn't all that bad afterall. In fact, I find the positive aspects of it overwhelming. A world without borders, a world with a single global currency, a world where the only enemies are those who foolishly oppose the governing body. It could be worse - it could be what we have right now, in our current day and age...

some of the ideas of it seem wonderful but being forced into it is something most wont like


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[edit on 17-1-2008 by Jbird]

"the NWO fought against the nazis"?? somebody is being a bit too delusional and is forgetting who exactly gave the nazis their tools of death. But whatever, keep on telling yourself whatever it is that makes you sleep at night.

Bravo! Finally, someone makes sense.
The NWO isn't just "a big idea"... it's a killer idea!
THE HERD WILL PREVAIL.



[edit on 17-1-2008 by mikomonty309]

I don't know where people get the idea that the NWO supports Nazi ideals. Foolish propaganda, apparently. The NWO fought and crushed the Nazis.

Well for starters, the Usa brought in Nazi Germany scientists to work for them. And now the Usa is following the scenario of Nazi Germany itself, just that terrorists are the new 'jews'.

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You are somehow under the notion that the world is able to be run by just one group. We would all live by the same laws, the same order, and somehow everyone will freely respect it without any backlash?

Every country in the world has its own set of laws, culture, and language. Do you understand what will happen if we all were to follow the same rules? Look at France's employment frustration. The people there aren't happy because their leader has tried to establish laws that follow an American work ethic. People there have rioted, students above all, have frequently protested, and all because their leader wants them to work more often every day.

Originally posted by Disobey

I don't know where people get the idea that the NWO supports Nazi ideals. Foolish propaganda, apparently. The NWO fought and crushed the Nazis.

Well for starters, the Usa brought in Nazi Germany scientists to work for them. And now the Usa is following the scenario of Nazi Germany itself, just that terrorists are the new 'jews'.

Not to forget the AMERICAN companies that helped supply the Nazis with tools to further their genocide.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to think that Nohup is really just a troll that likes to get people riled up by putting forth ridiculous, non-sensical controversy

I always thought the NWO sounded like a really great idea, and have supported the concept of a single world government for 40 years. As an example the sooner the world gets a single currency the easier everything would be, but unfortunately this is probably generations away.

Too bad the NWO is just a fantasy, and is never going to succeed. Not in my lifetime anyway, nor that of my grandchildren. As a species we're going to be stuck with nationalism, ethnic and economic conflicts, murder, mayhem and starvation on a mass scale, chaos, waste and environmental degradation as we've had for centuries. There ain't gonna be no change soon.

Too bad.

If you wanna spend eternity within a human body... well... that hence could be the best option...

HAhahaha OP you are ridiculous!!!!!! Do understand what your even saying???? You are basically ready for yourself and your family to be enslaved, used in underground work camps. You can forget about a pub visit.

I believe there are eternal implications as well. Whoever rolls with NWO goes to hell, the ones fight go to heaven.

Ur argument is one of the weakest. lamest, give-ins, I have completely no respect for you and feel sorry for your pathetic attempt to maintain your lifestyle by automatically giving up and giving in to the enemy.

Sick in the head. You will reap what you sow, trust that !!!!!

Also to all the doubters about the NWO agenda. Big changes usually take place in 10 years, i.e. end of cold war, european union, north american union, etc.

the EU is the 1st aspect and it's done. 9/11 another aspect and is done. NAU in progress hould be done within 5-10 years, after that we have the african Union and asian union.

Once the unions are in place. all we need is another 9/11 but on a global scale like a faked invasion/et's and it's time to roll out the microchips!!!!!!!!

I say 30 years tops!!!!!

Originally posted by DJMessiah
You are somehow under the notion that the world is able to be run by just one group. We would all live by the same laws, the same order, and somehow everyone will freely respect it without any backlash? Every country in the world has its own set of laws, culture, and language. Do you understand what will happen if we all were to follow the same rules?

Are you referring to the constant bloody conflict between the states of Oregon and Texas, which are populated by very diverse groups of people? Oh, that's right. There isn't any bloody conflict. Bad example. For some unfathomable reason, those people seem to get along. Or like the French and American Canadians. Funny how people who are so different can get along without killing each other, no?

Look, nobody said it would be easy. Of course there will be those who are paranoid, and who have baseless fears of change. And there are those who believe that God has chosen them to teach the rest of the world (by violence, if necessary) that their way is the only way. But nobody's asking anyone to give up their language or cultural identity, unless that cultural identity involves waging war on another country or territory. You're not pro-war, are you?

Heaven forbid.

Originally posted by Nohup

Originally posted by DJMessiah
You are somehow under the notion that the world is able to be run by just one group. We would all live by the same laws, the same order, and somehow everyone will freely respect it without any backlash? Every country in the world has its own set of laws, culture, and language. Do you understand what will happen if we all were to follow the same rules?

Are you referring to the constant bloody conflict between the states of Oregon and Texas, which are populated by very diverse groups of people? Oh, that's right. There isn't any bloody conflict. Bad example. For some unfathomable reason, those people seem to get along. Or like the French and American Canadians. Funny how people who are so different can get along without killing each other, no?

Look, nobody said it would be easy. Of course there will be those who are paranoid, and who have baseless fears of change. And there are those who believe that God has chosen them to teach the rest of the world (by violence, if necessary) that their way is the only way. But nobody's asking anyone to give up their language or cultural identity, unless that cultural identity involves waging war on another country or territory. You're not pro-war, are you?

Heaven forbid.

And nobody is going to ask you to change... you will conform to the NWO or else... how exactly is this "good" for the rest of us that still believe in individuality and freedom, how about privacy? oh right, I forgot you're the guy that doesn't mind having FBI agents watching your every move even when you want to whank off to porn sites (your words, not mine) or go to your own bathroom.

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Do the French, Canadians, or Americans all follow the same laws and cultures?

It's funny how you used Oregon and Texas as an example. How about Ireland and Scotland? Pakistan and India? North and South Korea? US and pretty much all of South America? All neighbors and all hate each other. Should I keep going, or do you still want to stick to your Oregon and Texas example?

even when the NWO takes place peace still wont be accomplished. It may be inevitable but i wont accept it....
''When the power of love overcomes the love of power then the world will know peace'' Jimmy Hendrix

I can not believe that people not only think a one world government would be better, but also welcome it. Just look at our government and see how good a one world government would be.

The concept that is our friend, and what makes life great is our liberties, our freedoms. Some may say and stated in this thread that that's a lost cause, but I think not. The US government is too big now, and some want the whole world enveloped in it?

Have we forgotten our past? Have we forgotten what this country was originally about? Remember that we were just colonies in the begining. How did that work out, being ruled by a government across the Atlantic? WE FOUGHT A WAR AND SACRIFICED LIVES FOR OUR FREEDOM!!!

By the way, this country was founded on small government, and prospered under small government. I also seem to think the last time this country was NOT in a deficit or in debt was when we had a small government.

I saw a post stating that the people against a one world governemnt are the ones who are lazy and want to take but not work. I agree the government gives too many handouts, I agree on that level. The solution is not a huge one world government, it is SMALLER government. There are not too many guaranteed things in life but one that history has taught us repeatedly, ( unfortuately maybe not taught because we don't listen to what it tells us ) POWER CORUPTS! ALWAYS!.

I seem to remeber our governemnt set up with checks and balances, which today are just about completely gone. The president can start a war now without Congress declaring it! The CIA and other intelligent agencies can tell the President NO when the Presidents asks for information. The department of defense can "lose" trillions of dollars, and still get a budget increase. If you believe that they are not spending the money on stuff that they don't want to be known, even by our politicians than you just have your head stuck in the mud. It had to go somewhere.

One world government would completely do away with any checks and balances the world has today.

What we need is a global understanding that we all are different, we are all individuals, that we need to respect eachother, and that we all can live TOGETHER. This is an individual change that every human being needs to have. A one world government will not make that happen. The problem will still be there until we all stand up and say I'm a human just like you.

One world government is the worst thing that could happen to this planet. We should strive for no governments instead of a HUGE government.

Originally posted by Nohup
As for resistance, what exactly do you want to resist? A safe, secure home? The opportunity to live and raise your family without random threats from organized criminals, wild dictatorships, or bands of religious extremists? I don't see where you'd want to resist being protected from those things.

In my opinion, you're letting your fear of something different, something unknown But what do you have to base those fears on? Conjecture? Rumors?

Nobody in their right mind would want to prevent you from becoming the most you can be in any society

You assume that the government has your best interests in mind. You assume that politicians are in the "right" state of mind. You assume that politicians have total control.

Why do you think that a one world government will make us safer? Has our HUGE government stopped crime? Even though only 1%-2% of our population are criminals, crime flourishes. Most crimes commited are commited by repeat offenders. The government lets them back on the street! Why is it when someone is sentenced to 10 years, they get out after 3?

As long as they are on the street, people like you will beg the government for more protection and willingly give them more control. THEY are the problem. The government causes the situation, and you think that they are the solution? People in government manipulate public opinion everyday, and blinds us to the truth. If you went to a college or university you may know that the field is called political science. It is a science for a reason. Everythig is calculated, and if you don't think so I would suggest to look into the subject. Many problems that people look towards the government to solve, the government has actually created!

Contrary to public opinion, the government owns nothing. Has nothing. It only takes from the people and redistributes it, they way it sees fit. It takes our money, our time, our citizens' lives. Government is not our friend, and is definately not the friend of personal liberties. More given to the government, the less we as individuals have.