Dozens in Texas town report seeing UFO

Thank-you so much to Valhall and her daughter for the Mufon reports from Texas. I posted a question on your thread. It's probably Way-Out, but I thought I'd ask anyways.

Originally posted by yeti101

now you still think higher intelligence life forms don't exist? come on now people get your head out of the sand and think logically for a second.

sure intelligent beings probably exist somehwere in the universe but that doesnt mean they are visiting us.

Based on the past 50 years I'm more inclined to believe they ARE than they AREN'T. Just my opinion though, based on instinct and limited research.

Originally posted by Vanitas
I thought I'd never post in an UFO thread.
But I have just finished watching Larry King Live, and now I can say that I have finally seen what is probably (I hope so!) the last frontier of ignorance and just plain stupidity. No, not plain: unbelievable, amazing, mind-boggling stupidity.

"Are you trained to watch at the sky...?"

"Pilots are not trained to observe. They are only trained to drive airplanes."

Those are just two of the bezels, straight from the horse's mouth.

Oh, and to the final question from his opponent: "Why is it so difficult to just say WE DON'T KNOW?"... the man replied: "Because there is no evidence! Because there is no evidence!"

I think this reply is one for the annals...
I am very glad it's on tape!

I wonder how the Amazing Randi is feeling tonight, after such a fine performance from his fellow "skeptic"... (I honestly feel sorry for all the self-styled skeptics tonight.)


P.S. Look for the transcript at CNN in the next few days.
Although I doubt that a transcript can do justice to the spectacle that I just witnessed...






[edit on 18-1-2008 by Vanitas]

lol yea I watched that too, it was funny AND annoying hearing that skeptic make a moron out of himself.. -he basically said you need "evidence" to say "I don't Know".. repeatedly.

Texas ufo vid from UK youtube via ufo casebook. I didn't see it earlier. Sorry if repost.

uk.youtube.com...

Originally posted by DaggerJack
I was at Jake and Dorthy's Cafe saturday morning when the news crew did the shoots. I found it to be very selective. I can tell you that there was one man there that came from out of town that I spoke to that is has request under the information of freedom act to retrieve flight plans for all miltary flights, I spoke to him for a few moments outside the cafe.

We ate at Jake and Dorothy's at noon before heading to the meeting! Also, I remember the MUFON guy stating there is a man who has requested a FOIA for the flight plans - is that you?

Were you at the MUFON meeting?

reply to post by Hal9000


posted that video because the situation described in texas was similar to the video that was recorded in Pa. I never said the video was from texas, i assumed that everyone would read the introductory paragraph before jumping to conclusions.

I did a google search trying to find video evidence of the texas incident and found this video clip. It's not the best but if some eyewitnesses were to see it they could help validify it.

www.disclose.tv...

Something I failed to share from the MUFON meeting.

The MUFON reps stated that of the scores of witnesses in the Texas event no one had the clarity of thought to grab their cell phone or camera. And he went on to say that many of the witnesses had photo-taking cell phones on them, and one witness even had his camera in the front seat of his car next to him. But the MUFON guys said that witness after witness stated they never even thought of it but just stood there in awe staring.

I find this an interesting (and understandable) psychological reaction actually.

reply to post by Valhall

First thing, thanks for going to the meeting and reporting back, it's much appreciated.
Second, I know I'm new here and all, but, when I had my sighting (third overall) two years ago, of the huge glowing red ball within a mile of my house, I never thought about grabbing my camera or my cell phone to take a picture. As you said understandable, I just stood watching it, never thought about yelling to my wife to look out the window either, so I can understand those people not taking a picture either.

Thank you again.

Here is an article on the MUFON meeting in Dublin. It has a good pic of the inside of the building. The gentleman in the middle turned sideways to the camera and wearing a black baseball cap with white writing on the side is Mr. Kiel the truck driver.

www.star-telegram.com...

Just throwing this out there, but if the Bermuda sighting is also true, has anyone noticed that the capital of Bermuda and Stephenville have almost the exact same latitude being off by only 2'.

reply to post by Valhall


Yes, except perhaps for professional cameramen/women, it seems to me that people don't just grab a camera and start shooting when something awesome happens. In fact, it doesn't need to be anything awesome, just enough of an interesting or distracting situation to send thoughts of "I oughta film this" out of people's minds.

Here's a prosaic example. A few months ago I was walking down the street to my school (where I teach young adults) and I heard a rather loud bang-crash. The sound of shattering glass. I rounded the bend in the path (sidewalk) and saw a bunch of my students outside the school, cigarettes and/or mobile phones in hand as they smoked/sent text messages on their break. All of them were staring at a young male who was running away down the street. In a few seconds he was gone round the next corner. So okay, I went up to my students and they pointed at a car parked about twenty metres away. The youth had smashed the driver's window, reached in and grabbed something then run off.

I asked if anyone had thought to get a picture of the thief on their mobile phones. No-one had. They looked at me like this was a completely original idea... No-one had even called the cops...

And remember -- some of them had mobile phones in their hands at the time -- and all of their phones have cameras or even video.

Would I have got my phone out and snapped off a pic or two if I had witnessed the robbery? To be honest I don't know. As it was I arrived at the tail-end of the situation which was for me ambiguous at best.

It doesn't surprise me that there is something of a lack of pictorial evidence in the "Texas UFO" case. In fact, it tends to lend credence to it.

reply to post by Valhall


Here is a video in the restaurant and at the meeting, there are a couple good videos there in fact: cbs11tv.com...

This post is just for the Mindless one...

This will be covered on The O'Reilly Factor tonight, more info this way:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Incarnated
Big Sky Country!


For those of you that have never taken the road trip, let me explain a couple of things to you about such places as Texas, New Mexico and Arazona.

The Atmosphier can be quite dry. This gives much more clarity of the vision at great lenghts because there's less "matter" vapor to make an object far off look less clear.

Arazona. Atmosphier. lenghts.

Brilliant.

Any pics emerged yet from texas yet? i saw the CNN coverage and they claimed to have a never ending stream of footage vids and pics. when can we see them?

Fox News just covered it again, E.D. Hill. Talked about the pics and the MUFON visit.

Here's why this one is so intriguing to me:
1) You have 200+ witnesses
2) You have people who say that the object was being chased by jets/helicopters
3) In a rural town that apparently never sees military craft, many are claiming that military jets and helicopters are still sweeping the town days after the incident.
4) Major media is covering it all over the globe, and most taking it seriously.
5) If it was one of ours don't you think that the government would make some statement at least to the affect of "we would not be able to comment on any military testing if there were any", just so people would not be freaking out? Look at the major coverage this is getting on MSM, don't you think they would rather stop it if they knew it was them? Certainly they wouldn't want the world thinking we're being invaded and they can't stop it!
2) The 2 videos below show an object that are very similar:

Cell phone footage, notice the lights blinking above and below the object: www.youtube.com...

Now here is the newer video showing the same shape, luminance, and lights above and below: www.disclose.tv...

This one's got legs! (not literally of course)




[edit on 21-1-2008 by Grey Basket]

You know, I've been giving this alot of thought, seeing as this thread and I are life-partners, and I think that the two videos are the least credible. I think that the photos that the trucker took are actually the best ones. It shows not only a large craft, but two muchy smaller ones "chasing" it.
now alot of people have been saying that the truckers object, (now T.O.) was way too small. I ask, has anyone ever taken a photo of a far off object with a camera phone? even my 2.0 mp Envy does the same thing. The key is the comparison of the objects in the photo. It seems like the trucker is oblique (?) to the object, chasing it. the town would be to the right in that photo.
Second, alot of people have been saying that "lots of people" would have noticed it. wrong again IMO. the truth is, most people would have been avoiding the sun and looking down at the road. Only a bored trucker would have noticed something like that. And lots of people, 200 at last count, DID see this object. I tried some practice photos this week with my new sony, and all I can say is that I hope the video is already rolling when the object appears. Otherwise, I'm SOL.
-Jason

reply to post by Valhall

Sorry for the illusion that a 12 base mathematical pattern could be associated with this phenomena but as I recall my math teachings now the country Nigeria is responsible for creating the 12 base numbering system, I hate to say this but since Nigeria is so out of place with the intelligent world (computing, libraries, schools, medical advances, etc.) theres no logic to say they have a capability to build a UFO much less a flying craft.

Also, since this man Sorrell has seen this object being standing directly underneath it in the woods looking up to draw picture one he then elaborates about the shape seen in particular detail. Mr. Sorrell shows the object as a hole at each end and one end is 6 feet thats the bottom as he states and he sees the top as 3 feet not as I see it as a middle. Being conical shape does little to say it has a parobolic tampering from 6 feet hole to the 3 foot hole but that is how I assumed he saw it with a tapering toward the center. When your at one end of a hour glass without sand and you look through the thing as if your standing benaeath it then you will see the 3 foot hole, unless the shape is clear as glass you cannot see the other end which he describes as the top (drawing 2), but logically if he says its total length (thickness) is 8-10 feet the what he is saying is that there are 8-10 fett from the 6 foot hole to the 3 foot hole, I do not dispute his sighting of the object size but what I see is a hole on the other side which can't be seen and this then may make the object longer than he actually sees it as 8-10 added together yields 16-20 feet for the entire length as I see the object. I have noted that this can be the issue in perceptional analysis many people are failing to notice that the hole of 3 feet is a centrally located hole within a hyperbola conical shape, his drawing (#1) with the tree top and none of them showing is a him standing beneath this 2D object so he sees a mere portion of the object whereas he says its total length is 3 football fields, theres no tree in heaven or earth that is this size & I suggest he is either exageraating or that the object movement above him is so slow that he perceives the total length. Some lady named Linda should have stated that about a hour glass view from either a top end or a bottom end to show that a middle might be the issue & he actually is seeing a middle (hyperbola shaped conical) a tricky matematical problem if your trying to define the area of such a object and have to build such a object nine times and then attach metal (like a skin) from hole to hole which is somewhat indented between ea producing its MIRIge(sp?) (Heat Wave's)? it reflects standing out to you like a sore thumb without using rivets, nut, bolts, welds of any kind then he wondering how to build it or why build it makes sense, since he has no math experience I assume he is a simple minded mechanist/welder that sees things as they are & speaks in realms, Linda sure screwed around with his statements enough still forgetting to get to the issue. If you believe in dangling participles or Alfred Hitchcock thriller old TV shows (cliff hangers) this is what this has boiled down to.

Certainly nothing to the likings of 12 eggs and 9 in use and 3 sort of becoming magical because they cannot be used except for doing the work, nor anything with regards to if you eat eggs or not. I went into a wide array of judgement to show a point about eggs, anti-gravity & the 12 base number system. But to think of what aliens do as compared to what we on earth do is ironic enough, all nations do not use the same base number system, America uses 10 base, do they use ours HOW.
SO THEREFORE, IF ANYONE DID NOT GET WHAT I AM SEEING AS COMPARED TO HIS DESCRIPTIVE SIGHTING. GO TO THE EARTHFILES SITE AND READ THE ARTICLE A HUNDRED TIMES UNTIL YOU BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE OF IT YOURSELF.

reply to post by Valhall


Valhall;
May I remind you 'cones' is a way of me complying to the article, he did not compose the article and was a pawn to questions lobbed at him without regard to importance, Latitude/Longitude/Orientation in the sky (North, South, East, or West). In a 2D depiction they are cones about reality is the truth and conical is another way of depicting the holes, if you add tapering, parabolic interior and full hyperbola shape you see what I see not a 2D picture he drew which was posted on earthfiles. If you seen one hole and all other nine appear the same then yes you can say they are the same but he has only seen into a few being directly underneath the object, 40 feet estimation is the nearest he can describe the object as:

MATRIX ABOVE HIS HEAD
160 + (6x3) x 3 = 534 feet total area
160 + (6x3) x 3 equates as the nine holes

appearing as: (Holes are '+' ea. 6 feet in width)

ROW 1 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40'
ROW 2 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40'
ROW 3 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40' ---+-- 40'

His distance from the object could be calculated mathematically if the math is correct for the object size and hole(s) depiction.

Therefore he defines the full object size as [1080 feet x 53 1/3 feet] which is three football fields in length.

But if you are matematically inclined, and you have a object which is depicted as length and width and nine equally spaced holes you might end up with a curved object which curves away from you instead of being flat. I assume the object is flat and oly 8-10 feet thick yet I see it differently as if ea. hole is a hour glass so your dead wrong that I am misleading anyone, maybe you can't interpret a hole when you see one above your head but I see it on my computer and what I see I reported on this site and at newsmedia emails which none have the nerve to realize what I see is perhaps the reality to this thing your blinded by. Put on your glasses else stop driving so you don't see nine pedestrians sometime and hit one by mistake.

Question: What is the area of a football field?

Answer: A football field is a rectangular field 120 yards (110 metres) long by 53 1/3 yards (49 metres) wide.

The longer boundary lines are sidelines, while the shorter boundary lines are end lines. Near each end of the field is a goal line; they are 100 yards apart. A scoring area called an end zone extends 10 yards beyond each goal line to each end line. Yard lines cross the field every 5 yards, and are numbered from each goal line to the 50-yard line, or midfield (similar to a typical rugby league field). Two rows of lines, known as hash marks parallel the side lines near the middle of the field. All plays start with the ball on or between the hash marks. At the back of each end zone are two goal posts (also called uprights) that are 18.5 feet apart. The posts are connected by a crossbar 10 feet from the ground. Successful kicks must go above the crossbar and between the uprights. (At many fields the uprights and crossbar are attached by a curved bar to a post outside the field of play, to reduce the chance of players running into the supports.) Each team has 11 players on the field at a time. However, teams may substitute for any or all of their players between plays. As a result, players have very specialized roles, and almost all of the 53 players on an NFL team will play in any given game. Thus, teams are divided into three separate units: the offense, the defense and the special teams (see below). In the NFL, players' jersey numbers are distributed according to a strict system (e.g. quarterbacks always wear between 1-19).





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