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Originally posted by EarthDweller
Oh no, not the Drake!
I think the drake equation is intrisically incompetent, even though reality MAY correlate with its approximations. Mind you all, that the Drake equation is a product of purely aetheistic, material extrapolations. extrapolations from ONE point of referance(life on earth), It makes its assumptions from a standpoint of Dawinian, RANDOM processes. Of course, this may fit perfectly into your paradigm, but i just had to speak my mind about that.
Originally posted by timelike
As Tayga points out, what if he was writing some form of creative writing or high on drugs?
Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
A hypothesis of an alien UFO has to start with the assumption that these things are utterly alien.
... qualities such as ... game-theoretic action over time, qualities of Earth Animals. But not necessarily of something from elsewhere.
But even so, I can still come up with reasonable, if fanciful, explanations that DO observe rules of our own animal planet.
My point is ... to point out that explanations of the 'observed behavior' of these stories need not be as cut and dry as "We wouldn't act this way, therefore they don't exist."
Originally posted by neformore
Some more thoughts...
To the people who say "Aliens are alien, they wouldn't think or look like us" I would put the following questions.
What use is earth to a life-form that breathes ammonia?
What if they come from a planet with a different gravity level to ours?
What if oxygen poisions them?
What if our planet is too hot, or too cold for them?
Originally posted by timelike
Until we can understand if life is a natural conclusion to solar system formation, we may never know. No Drake equation or guesswork really fills in the gap. At the moment we have only one example of a planet with life in the Universe.
Originally posted by EarthDweller
The other model, that works to my liking, is that alien entities (of not necessarily physical form) uses greys and other "generic" bodies as a sort of robots or "suits" to be able to interact in 3-D, Earth reality...
Originally posted by Ectoterrestrial
... maybe this life evolved in a genetic system with less rigid speciation and more recombinatorial genetic sharing as a mechanism, perhaps some kind of universal, trans-species spore sharing mechanism?
I'm not concerned with the smart people here who think through this stuff. I worry about the posts I see on other news sites, such as the Main Stream Media's comment boards, where people state "Why would there be lights. It makes no sense, so it must not be ET." I don't like that argument.
Originally posted by EarthDweller
Oh! And what if... Instead of alien planets beeing breeding grounds for alien life-forms - Alien planets evolving into an intelligent form of astral body!
Originally posted by ufo reality
"...I think our militaries have more technological secrets and capabilities than we can even imagine.....we probably don't even want to know, right!?"
Let me quote Ben Rich who headed up Lockheed Skunk Works. Before his death he said "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity" he also went on to say "anything you can imagine we already know how to do."
So from this quote, I guess you could believe that all UFOs are our own technology. I am not so quick to believe that's true. I still think some UFOs show signs of technology far beyond what humans could create now or even 200 years from now.