The Beast Revealed

Interesting...

John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." ... Jesus
John 8:14 "Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true." ... Jesus



"Record" and "witness" in the above verses are the same Greek word (martyria).

??? I'm confused. Can someone run that through the universal translator and get back to me?

Originally posted by rwiggins
Interesting...

John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." ... Jesus
John 8:14 "Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true." ... Jesus

"Record" and "witness" in the above verses are the same Greek word (martyria).

??? I'm confused. Can someone run that through the universal translator and get back to me?

in modern thought & conceptualization:

'witness' equates to Opinion
'record' equates to the equivelent of Legal Evidence


~just my non-degreed take on the impasse' ~

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WARNING BAD SPELLING

hello there interesting view i got a question you belive in god as it is written right. Does that mean you belive in god as a he/she or a state of mind refering to all mandkind? becourse i look at it this way... you talk about laser weapons and satan joining forces (kinda) with the USA, and satan taught some to construct the weapons/machinery we see today, then you denie it as alien or ET . So if you belive that god is one person or enteti, and that there is ONE ruler ONE god i would say your wrong since, and im not even rilligious but from what I have heard ... jesus taught man to live humble respect and love eachother and that all are equal. so the idea or the teachings about one god would be false IMO
since thats not what the saveior thaught....next up IF the idea of a god as descriped in the bible with mighty powers and angels ect did or do exist, Can't you see the possebility of god being and alien? imagin seeing a being fly in some ufo, heck just a hellicopter and being able to cure diseases as divine? Based on the knowledge and low technology of the time ? I would.
one's mind could not comprehend what they saw thus descriping it as devine, also one mentioned yahwee as reffering to the morning star wich ment venus, the mayans had a calender of venus why? btw i have heard that the morning star reffers to sirius wich the egyptians belived had a magical or devine power/status so IMO best bid on a God would be alien . this should be in the bible jesus said: Know ye are not your gods and what they can do you can do also and more. perhaps im mistaken.. but makes you think. Unless your talking about god as spiritual becourse the rastafari and others belive that god is oneself and realizing this will set you free just as keeping to hate will only make you misrable/feel bad thus creating your own hell the beast or 666, just the name sound primitive wich i would consider to be an early stage like an animal and the christ reffering to one's self consious. now just to jump a little of topic but still on topic you other tread about 2008 beginnig of the end times you wrote or the bible said whatever!...he will come like a theif in the night when no ones expecting it. so that would mean when people stop beliving in relligion as one master, and understands all are equal, then there will be no reason for a ruler no reason for war in the name of belife becourse we are all the same and our spirits will pass on to the next world thereby coming together to create the new world of progress and understanding spiritualy and physically. the next world being the spiritual plane where no one feels the desire to rule IMO. But to end this. I belive the idea of god as put togehter in the bible is a alien master plan so god is really representing the essence the real anti christ..but the jesus of old and in the book represents the enlighten mind of what man should be and the term god is the way africans rastafari view the mand who understands everything and dosen't need all the materialistic crap wich the rulers of today try to convince us to buy. just the idea of 1-2 and third classes and money makes you wanna strive to be the best and those who are not will hate those that are. to my knowledge the one translating the bible from hebrew was part of that very thing thereby makin it the bible misleading.....becourse we are told not to steal kill ect by the people who does exsactly that but becouse of the relligion many dose not crave for a revolution...a revalution of the mind. why is it that some are royals and claim to be better than others? or one guy decides what an entire country should do ? my guess they are alpha humans and in some ways still primitive so beast would be fitting termenology or they are aliens who want to rule everything.... just like we domesticate horses cow's ect .conti

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well to continue my last post : just like we have domesticated horses cows ect take advantage of a dumber animal and make them our servants ...Your thoughts and any body elses ?

sorry for typo's bad gramma punctuation ect not english not a great speller but i try to debate .

Aliens....God....satan.....what's the difference really? Maybe the demons are like the Aliens, and the Cherubs are like the Predators, and here we are, stuck in the middle like always. Why would satan go through all of this trouble to get the U.S. to buy his story? Maybe he's not too bright. Why not just show up at Jamestown and hand a copy of the satanic bible to John Smith and say "this is the way it is here bro".........

reply to post by rwiggins

John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." ... Jesus
John 8:14 "Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true." ... Jesus

In the first verse it is saying tooting my own horn or talking about myself thus my witness would not be true. In the second it is referring to what Jesus was doing ie healing people, feeding people etc. Thus through his actions he was bearing record of himself.

They look similar but are contextualy different. Hope it helps.

One poster mentioned something about possibly the op trying to convert people to her point of view. There are some indications in the OP that might suggest that. So being a little upset is understandable. Christ gave us the proper way to breach the subject with the woman at the well.

You meet, talk about the weather or sports, see if they are open to spiritual matters then precede. If they are not then stop right there and go back to weather and sports. Even Paul said we were to reason with each other.

For all those that wish to convert others, present your case with facts and show that what you are saying is reasonable. Putting forth statements without supporting evidence gets one nowhere. Besides, the preaching of the cross to those that perish is foolishness.

As I had posted earlier, references please. Please show me that facts regarding the original post.

Two questions to the OP, have you gone to seminary? Are you pastoring a church?

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
All information comes from our heavenly Father, via His messengers of the Cherubic Order of Holy Angels.

Mmm I smell evangelist demagogue prattle a brewing...

*sigh*

Why would an (apparently) infinitely benevolent, infinitely loving, all powerful, all knowing being tolerate any evil acts such as the one the 'beast' is carrying out against all mankind? Why does he demand your devotion and if you choose otherwise you are subject to his wrath? So if an honest, loving, caring person with only the best of intentions in his heart does not believe the word of god he will still face his wrath? WHY?!

You talk about lies and deception..

Religion IS the great deception.

For a moment there I thought it was April the 1st......This is a joke isn't it?

If you believe this fingerpointing is the beast reveal in true
then my brothers come closely so I may tell to you that you're being fooled.

The beast hides deep within where there is no light shinning.
It is there that the beast watches and waits for its time to come out.

The beast is WITHIN YOU.

If you think that is untrue, then you're fooled and you're part of the beast.

To beat the beast you've got to be willing to face it.

The Beast is within you.

Satan knows he can't win, wants to take as many people down with him as he can.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


That's the truth if you can deal with it.

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
I couldn't agree with you more Yessy.

That's because you are both from the same cult and you both signed up here relatively at the same time - part of the 'wave' from that cult that I'm seeing on this board. Either that .. or you are the same person using multiple accounts.



[edit on 1/4/2008 by FlyersFan]

Originally posted by Incarnated
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The beast is WITHIN YOU.

If you think that is untrue, then you're fooled and you're part of the beast.

To beat the beast you've got to be willing to face it.

The Beast is within you.

You may want to read the following:

1st Corinthians 3:16

I'm of the opinion that just because religion has 'Adopted' this odd collection of books it doesn't follow that their interpretation of it is correct. I'm more inclined to believe the history as explained by the likes of

Zecharia Sitchin

But even quoting it is dubious because it has changed so much from the original (what ever that was?) as it was moved/transcribed/translated/modified/simplified etc by the powers at the time ‘Constantine’ (as an example) or people who sometimes couldn't actually read but knew how to copy text! How many errors and omissions do you suppose are you reading in today’s versions?

I personally believe that the books were nothing to do with religion and all about recording history but the so called moral blueprint elements were added for control reasons and to hide or confuse the truth. And, given the number of people who follow it today they did an excellent good job of mass mind control.

I do believe that because we humans are so frightened of the potential that there isn't anything other than Born-Life-Death the end. We will construct and adopt any and every mechanism to avoid accepting this, queue Religion, Government, your own spiritual nature or higher power, this being the final belief system for when you’ve grown out of the first two or see them for what they are and can’t face the alternative.

Even terms like ‘Satan’, the devil were not part of the older versions but once again added a much later date to suit the powers as a way of controlling the reader/believer of the day.

I would also finish the ranting of this ‘recovering Catholic’ by saying that I do firmly believe from my time alive that we are being controlled and that the Bush’s and the banking club’s have an ancient agenda that they have been working towards for million’s, billions of years but trying to understanding it via the Bible isn’t going to add any clarity to the debate? IMO

Originally posted by Incarnated
www.abovetopsecret.com...


That's the truth if you can deal with it.

I get a:

ERROR: You've Requested A Page
That No Longer Exists

...which in itself is a whole metaphysical mind blowing, kool-aid drinkin', rapture vessel shooting down conundrum.

reply to post by Incarnated

The beast is WITHIN YOU.

If you think that is untrue, then you're fooled and you're part of the beast.

To beat the beast you've got to be willing to face it.

The Beast is within you

Please cite your sources.

And before you say 'the Bible', let me beat you to the punch:

Corinthians 3:16 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

16Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you

So where exactly do you get your information from?

Very interesting photographs on her website on the visions page on ALLisOnes' website.
www.onetruth.moonfruit.com...

Here's on of them:


In the one above, I'm seeing that she molded some aluminum foil into the shapes of a donkey with a bearded man on it with a halo around his head holding a sword. Same with the other man on the left... aluminum foil molded into the shape of a man (probably she wanted it to look like St. Micheal in battle with a soon to be fallen angel). In fact, all of her photographs include aluminum foil that's been molded into different shapes where she hung them behind a large window and then took photographs or movies of... probably using bright light directed on that window and changing the position of that light to effect different results.

But, because I'm experienced in getting anomalous images in my own photographs and movies, with my trained eye, I can see some anomalous over-lays on those aluminum foil molded shapes and around them i.e. faces and ghostly swirls. Very interesting!

Those intelligences who create such anomalous images by using, in this case, the light reflecting off of those aluminum foil molded shapes and the reflection of the window which is in front of her foil molded shapes have a knack for using whatever shapes and forms are being seen through the camera's eye to form their own shapes and images off of that i.e. faces and sometimes other details too.

For example, last summer I recorded a movie of a piece of aluminum foil flag I made blowing in the wind and below are the results I got from one of those movies:
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As you can see, it looks like a man wearing an old fashion floppy black bow tie and in each frame, he was changing the expression on his face. I know these images are creepy to say the least but just showing how those 'intelligences' can instantaneously work with the reflective surface to form their images. In this case, they were forming their images with those changes in the surface of the aluminum foil reflecting light as that 'flag' was blowing in the wind. More information on these images can be found in a thread I started up on this sometime last spring:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But unlike ALLisOne's images... I only used a flat piece of aluminum foil -- she actually molded aluminum foil into different shapes and from there, the spirits added their own anomalous over-lays onto those shapes she positioned somehow behind the window. It's an interesting technique that she used and I will try it out for myself to see what kinds of results I get.



[edit on 4-1-2008 by Palasheea]

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I'm sorry but you are wrong. That website belongs to Regina the OP. I do have one question though. Since you think those pictures are fake how about someone try to recreate it? I would like to see the results of what you can come up with.

Originally posted by johannamoria
reply to post by Palasheea

 

I'm sorry but you are wrong. That website belongs to Regina the OP. I do have one question though. Since you think those pictures are fake how about someone try to recreate it? I would like to see the results of what you can come up with.

I never said they are fake.. I said very clearly that I'm seeing some anomolous images in them.

Once again, I need to make this clear... these are not fake anomolous images.

I just showed you one of my results I got last summer after recording a movie showing an aluminum flag I made blowing in the wind where that anomolous face that was changing its expressions was seen on playback.

But I would like to try out AllisOne's idea she used to get those images that are on here Visions page using aluminum foil that she's molded into different shapes where she hung them behind a large window and recorded movies of those shapes with resulted in anomolous images showing up on playback of those movies or photographs... It's an interesting technique but it's one of those techniques that the recorder needs to explain to the viewer just so he or she knows that those aluminum foil things that she molded into different shapes are not what she is referring to as anomolous in her presentation on that page... at least I don't think so... lol, I hope not!

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