Explosion heard at Bhutto rally (Bhutto Killed)

Originally posted by Beachcoma
reply to post by Palasheea

 

Military coup by Musharraf which led to military rule by him with no end in sight + the reason I stated in the third paragraph of the previous post. I have a feeling that reason in the third para carries more weight than the coup + the General's rule. People don't like taxes, more so when they aren't benefiting from it.

I just wanted to double check on your reason for that because I always thought it had more to do with mod. to rad. Islamic clerics who also function as village leaders who are antagonistic toward President Pervez Musharraf/the military.
But good point about taxes which comes with the package anyway. thanks.

Bhuto's security was handled by musharif. God knows why she let him do it. Certainly Musharif was in the best position to do it.

Common sense tells me he did everything in his power to prevent her from campaigning for a number of reasons but a big one was the potential of her being killed by terrorists where he instead would be blamed for her death. This seems pretty obvious to me.

Sounds like he's got a full plate now and it will be interesting to see how this whole scenario unfolds.

Sad. Very Sad. They keep trying to blow this off by saying that "She knew the risks of this position" So what? A very brave woman died for what she believed was the best for her country. I think the media is being very heartless about this.
I think I said it before. "Sad."

I was with my family talking about politics and what-not when the topic of who would next be included. Many of us agreed on Iran. My father however, said "Well, I don't know, I bet if that Bhutto lady gets assassinated things might get a little hairy towards Pakistan". Everyone was a little mortified when we turned on CNN this morning.

Here's a thought for fellow paranoid's.

She's shot at the rally...confirmed dead at the hospital about an hour or so later...and flown to where her ancestral burial grounds are located, for a burial Friday.

Sounds awfully quick for a former head of state. No thorough autopsy? No investigation? No interring the body for evidence? Shot on Thursday, buried Friday!

What is really interesting is that there is no questioning of this from any other country. Anyone see any video evidence of her assassination?

reply to post by AERO_VISIONS

In many religions you must bury the body within 48 hours from the time of death. Doesn't seem odd at all to me.

Originally posted by Leyla
Are you kiddng me!! I just heard the news when signed back in MSN. The Butto Killed headlines was right there in black and white.

Oh there's no such thing of being civil in the Middle East- All they do is kill each other!! Whats wrong with having peace?! I will never figure out people!

Everyone in the Middle East has lost their minds!

I hope all the Islamist extremists get what they want turmoil and war- Then maybe they will all come to their senses!

Anyone who says that Isalm is peaceful- I will not say it here.

Whoa there. The "west" does not have a peaceful past it just so happens that we have grown out being idiotic at least to the extent where we seem to appreciate democracy over the gun. I say seem since the turn out at voting time suggest a lot of people don't give a damn and would presumably prefer middle eastern/asian/oriental/african style of politics!

The west's history includes so many wars in Europe, the slaughter of native peoples around the world (look at your own US natives!) The west has had its religious extremism for hundreds of years. Look at Ireland until very recently. So remember the "west" has killed tens of millions long before the middle east/asian troubles.

Bhutto is dead beause she was a woman and the extremists hate the idea of woman in charge.

In many religions you must bury the body within 48 hours from the time of death. Doesn't seem odd at all to me.

Despite this Pakistan should still have carried out an autopsy on the body AND the crime scene should not have been hosed down less than 2 hours after the assassination. These two issues show there is a clear attempt to hinder any investigation.

FACT

[edit on 28-12-2007 by kickoutthejams]

oh, this craps been happening since the dawn of time...

what if they acted alone?

like it was 2crazy guys who hated women or something?

idk, its just a theory that i havent seen suggested by the media yet lol

anyways, Thats life. Everyone dies. Nothing to start more killing over.

Everyone shouldnt let the media get to them like that

people should pay more attention to Good news. sad its so hard to come by these days

I do remember my friend who is Muslim mention that they bury the dead within 24 hours but I think Bhutto would have wanted a full investigation on her death...Check out the video in spacedoubt's thread..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

She wrote a letter calling for an investigation in the event of her assassination. Also at about 2:50 in the video she talks about using foreign forensics experts to find out who was behind the Oct. 19th attack.

Was she shot at close range?

It very well could have been a suicide bomber that shot her then blew himself up....but it just seems odd. The bomb also could have been planted to make it LOOK like a suicide bomber was behind it.

Originally posted by rizla
Bhuto's security was handled by musharif. God knows why she let him do it. Certainly Musharif was in the best position to do it.

he would've known that blame would fall on him if he was responsible though. i don't think he'd do something so blatant. I certainly don't believe what the "Officials" are saying, that it's Al Qaeda...but i also don't think Musharraf would be so conspicuous. my guess is a small group of extremists, but i can't say that with any certainty.

democracy fails to work in the hands of those who can't comprehend the world outside of their religion. this goes for the east AND west.

reply to post by Beachcoma


Great post! It seems from the map though (and I've seen this before) that at least a vestige of Pakistan is planned to remain against India's western flank. We wouldn't want to waste any centuries old hatred now would we? I say planned because what's being done has to be obvious to both Russia and China, who have to make a move at some point you would think.

What a great excuse this assasination makes for the insertion of USA troops, which was apparently pre-planned
blog.washingtonpost.com...

Add to this the sending of more troops to Afghanistan.
www.uruknet.info...

And the picture is one of an almost complete encirclement of Iran. Again, how long will Russia-China allow us to continue to take over the worlds oil barrel?

God, Resistor.....you just hate the US so much, we can all tell

Yeah, we're involved in some seedy stuff, and always have been, and always will be. It's called SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST

Our military planners want what's best for the US, plain and simple.
Each one of those commanders, Joint Chiefs, politicians, etc are Americans, most of them with families, including children. They all have access to levels of information classification and compartmentilization
that the general public (you and I) don't need to know about.

If we are surrounding Iran for an eventual confrontation, then it's meant to happen for our best interests. I really believe there is a game plan that will ultimately make the US safer and remain the best place to live on this planet.

Yeah, I know, "pie in the sky"....but it beats the hell out of constant, pessimistic cynicism that drives some of us patriots crazy.

Happy New Year, though!

Originally posted by AndyHodges
i dont buy that this the work of Islamic fundamentalists. The marksmanship, like Dallas, was too good, too precise. No crazed suicide attacker with an AK47, I dont buy it.

Yes, because we all know that there is no way a muslim could ever hit the broadside of a barn.

Seeing as how you seem to be an expert in such things, could you please tell us how this was an impossible task for a mere muslim? And since you were obviously there, and witnessed the event, could you tell us the exact angles she was shot from, and where the shooter was standing? You'd be a great help in the investigation.

[edit on 28-12-2007 by SaviorComplex]

What a sh*t!

Now more revenge, more bloodshed and more uncertainty in the middle east and the world.

When will this all stop? - if ever ....

2008 is just around the corner and a lot of the world looks to be in dire times.
Without a doubt there is a shaking and stirring happening right throughout the world. The middle east is the hot spot at the present, and no signs things are going to get better anytime soon.

We've just had Christmas and we all soon will be ushering in the New Year with celebrations right around the globe.

Celebrating what?

I for one dont see 2008 as the year of peace. If anything, things more than likely are going to get worse, much worse. I read this entire thread and am left feeling depressed. What future do we have? All I see is more conflict, more death and destruction.
I'm not here to debate Benazir Bhutto's death, who did it and why. All in all, to me at least, it is the sign of the times - BAD times.

Is peace totally lost to mankind?

reply to post by LiamStemrad


that is one of the most niave posts I have ever read. I hope, for your sake that you are just a kid, if you're an adult, I have a bridge in Brooklyn you can buy.

This case is awfully smelly. Bhutto declares several important things in this video, including Bin Laden having been assasinated:

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by kickoutthejams
Despite this Pakistan should still have carried out an autopsy on the body...
[edit on 28-12-2007 by kickoutthejams]

Yes, because it is such a mystery how she died. What is the autopsy going to show? "Well, what do you know? She was shot! Who would'a thunk it!"

reply to post by kickoutthejams


Baha'i burial law requires burial in 24 hours as does Islam. Quite a few religions do.