10 y/o girl arrested for using knife to cut steak.

If you intend to hurt someone, which the school officials clearly assumed of this girl since they called the police, then really you could do just as much damage with a pencil as a small steak knife.

I think I have the answer...

BAN PENCILS!

Yeah. That should do it.

Then we can ban rulers. And protractors. And pens. And those things with the sharp thing that helps you draw a perfect circle. And locker locks because the kids can throw them at each other's heads. And glass. And paper because paper cuts....

That should help.

But that's not enough.

We ban all that stuff, dress our kids up in uniformed plastic 6 inch thick suits that all look the same and complete with oxygen mask, replace all glass windows with plastic, pad all doors and walls, put soft carpet in place of hard floor and tile, pad corners of desks, soften up the chairs, and give everyone laptops with Microsoft Vista so the NSA can keep an eye on the censored skewed education our children are receiving.

While we're at it, why don't we label this girl and anyone like her cutting up her lunch as enemy combatants to protect the rest of our obedient children?

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Originally posted by Roper
What are you talking about ? History is full of accounts where leftist governments disarm it's people. Arresting a little girl is part of the conspiracy of the Leftist in the USA to demonize any type of weapon or any thing that can be thought of as a weapon.

The Leftist ( Communist, Socialist ) governments are not economic systems , they are brutal controlling systems forced on the people.
Roper

No, Communism is an economic system much the same way as Capitalism is an economic system.


My friend, we may be on different sides of the political spectrum, but we both want the same thing, to live, work, procreate, and be happy. Must we battle over small differences of opinion?

[edit on 27-12-2007 by InSpiteOf]

For an economic system they sure are blood thirsty.

www.hawaii.edu...

Roper

[edit on 27-12-2007 by Roper]

Originally posted by forestlady
Roper, we have no Communists or Socialists or any Left-thinking politicians running anything. This is a REPUBLICAN administration, remember? You're talking about fascist governments taking away guns, Lefters do not belive in fascism. It could be argued, however, that fascists are radical right-wingers.

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The public school system have become nothing more than re-education prisons for kids.

RINO administration. Also look at all of the bureaucrats that are hold over from the Clinton Adm. All the life time appointed Judges. The list goes on. This is why we have 10 yr old girls arrested.

You are correct about the public education. Ask any group of high school seniors this question. What is the Bill of Rights and how many are there.

Roper

actually, there are more judges on the bench from republicans than democrats. since republicans have had more time in the white house since 1980, it is only logical that there are more of their appointees on the bench.

as to the argument that only the left disarms, hitler who was very much on the right disarmed his people so he could control them.
dictators from both sides do the same things to their people.

fascism is the marriage of business with government in economic terms. usually very pro military. ever notice how most dictatorships are run by some one from the military.

communist usually have some one from the bureaucracy leading them.

Man... America use to be a place of hopes and dreams. A place where everyone wanted to live, now it's just a sad place that everyone ridicules and makes fun of.

Can't wait for the colapse of America, and the Re-Birth of the American People!

its so sad what has happened next thing there will be bouncers in the lunch room i remember once when i forgot to take a plastic toy knife out of my bag pack from going out camping when i was a kid next thing i knew the principal was yelling at me NO!!!! i was like this is some #! man i didnt even know it was there and the only reason i took it out was to find a pen at the bottom of the bag. but anyway i think all the smart laws have already been passed so now they must pass stupid laws in order to look like they are doing something.

like the jokers says " the only sensible way to live is to live in a world without rules"

Mine, nor any of my friends or relatives freedoms' have been infringed as a result of this policy, and niether have the young girl's. this was not a freedom she was granted, and therefore noones rights or freedoms have been infringed upon.

Every year the students are given a policy book that they should review with their parents the first day of school. A policy book may also be issued upon request.

It clearly states that such objects are not to be brought to school. there are no exception.

I could have packed a whole chicken and brought a meat cleaver to school to chop it up, and probably would have the same over reaction protestors here have urged.

Lets say some asshole kid saw an opportuntiy to steal the knife from her hand ad attack another student. what an unforunate situation that would have been.

Originally posted by DYepes
Mine, nor any of my friends or relatives freedoms' have been infringed as a result of this policy, and niether have the young girl's. this was not a freedom she was granted, and therefore noones rights or freedoms have been infringed upon.

Every year the students are given a policy book that they should review with their parents the first day of school. A policy book may also be issued upon request.

It clearly states that such objects are not to be brought to school. there are no exception.

I could have packed a whole chicken and brought a meat cleaver to school to chop it up, and probably would have the same over reaction protestors here have urged.

Lets say some asshole kid saw an opportuntiy to steal the knife from her hand ad attack another student. what an unforunate situation that would have been.

And THIS is what is wrong with the world today. People like you making excuses to actually support this kind of control by government. You are pulling the classic "what if some kid took the knife and stabbed someone with it?!" routine and that is the saddest and most pathetic use of logic possible. It really scares me to read your post, I mean actually puts a chill in my blood to think that there are people who nod and go along with more and more rules every year in the schools, in the public, in our homes.

God help us all.

Originally posted by DYepes
Mine, nor any of my friends or relatives freedoms' have been infringed as a result of this policy, and niether have the young girl's. this was not a freedom she was granted, and therefore noones rights or freedoms have been infringed upon.

Every year the students are given a policy book that they should review with their parents the first day of school. A policy book may also be issued upon request.

It clearly states that such objects are not to be brought to school. there are no exception.

I could have packed a whole chicken and brought a meat cleaver to school to chop it up, and probably would have the same over reaction protestors here have urged.

Lets say some asshole kid saw an opportuntiy to steal the knife from her hand ad attack another student. what an unforunate situation that would have been.

I would fully support the school if they were to ask the girl to hand over the knife until after school, then explain to her their policy on food utensils.




But get the police involved and make an arrest..?

When I was in school the most vile crime was chewing gum. No one cared if you brought a stake knife to school to cut up your lunch (I did many times). Besides, it was my mom that put the knife in my lunch box.

What was that saying by Forest Gump...stupid is as stupid does.

if they are going to arrest her for having a steakknife why not for a pencil,pen,book....or anything really.anything and everything can be a weapon if one truely wants to hurt and/or kill someone.

oh no its a little girl with a knife cutting her lunch, call in the national guard

Hi, Everyone. I'm new here. As an aside to this article and the posts, when I was incarerated in the early 1970' in a Cincinnati, Ohio prison, my family asked the authorities if I could have a pencil, a sharpener, an eraser and a drawing pad. They were told I could have all of the above, except the pencil as that could be used as a pencil. Heh. Yes. Ban pencils and pens from schools. That would seem to make sense according to my past experience. No, I jest. Banning pencils is stupid. As for the knife. When I was a kid we used to take knifes to school to whittle on wood and besides, all little boys had knifes to clean their finger nails and do whatever. Nobody was ever harmed from this. But, alas, times have changed.

I would fully support the school if they were to ask the girl to hand over the knife until after school, then explain to her their policy on food utensils.

For the previous gentleman who responded with my statement, I simply was unable to put my opinion down in a timely manner. I would like to reiterate my emphassis that i firmly stand by the preceding poster's statement.

Well the all American average ten year old isn't Beaver Cleaver anymore people, everybody knows you don't take knives of any kind to school anymore. What did she expect?
"Aww Gee Wally, I was just cutting my macaroni with it... when Biff took it away from me and stabbed that teacher."
This is America man, newly empowered kids are watching movies like Hostel, aren't being spanked, and are comming to school with assault rifles and killing people for being picked on. Do you really think they should be allowed to bring knives to school because they have the right to?

After I seen this story I knew things would get worse.
6yr. old girl with chalk
And then the story about the boy who drew a gun and now this story, what is this country coming to. So far we are losing our freedom of speech and expression on the internet. I wonder how long it will take our government to enforce limited speech and limited expression?

Originally posted by Roper
Hells bells, there have been kids arrested for drawing a knife or a gun on a piece of paper. I kid you not!

This is what happens when a country lets the Communist or Socialist take over government.

Roper

Words fail me at how dumb that statement is......but at least it indicates how narrow minded some folks in the US can really be....

Originally posted by malcr

Originally posted by Roper
Hells bells, there have been kids arrested for drawing a knife or a gun on a piece of paper. I kid you not!

This is what happens when a country lets the Communist or Socialist take over government.

Roper

Words fail me at how dumb that statement is......but at least it indicates how narrow minded some folks in the US can really be....

Narrow minded in the ways of the Constitution of the US.

Also, if you love your slavery so be it. Socialism is a very slippery slope for us in the USA.

Roper

Originally posted by InSpiteOf
I wonder if that little girl understood her maranda rights when the cops read them too her.

Talk about over-reaction, how do they expect her to cut a steak? A plastic butter Knife wont do the trick...

the real issue is why was she eating a steak? She should have been shoveling that school lunch - government subsidized garbage down her throat, and washing it down with milk loaded with rBGH (Bovine Growth Hormone). I mean, that type of food you can cut with a spoon, and it's basically predigested. Even easier to digest with some soda.

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Is it that you choose not to be able to separate economic issues from government ones or that you just don't know how?

The government behind the USSR was totalitarian, which ran a communist economy.

Just as the Pinochet government of Chile was totalitarian, but ran a Capitalist economy.

Do you get it now?