Spiky UFO Brazil

reply to post by Terrapop


nice find!

it deff looks like the same anomaly, but its hard to tell since we only see lights.


is there anyone on here that can analyze the first video and this one as well so we can find out whether they are genuine or something has been added...

mostly just to shut Omnicron up

hey everyone, everyone...

hahaha How funny is this!
Omnicron swears that this video is fake fake fake yet has his own thread on UFO's and only wants positive feedback and discussion!
www.abovetopsecret.com...

double standard if I've ever seen one...

and your pictures are most deff CGI... they have all the tell-tale signs.
dont you know what those signs are? Im not going to explain them to you, I'm above that.

Lovin' it!

reply to post by Odessy


Not all people in Brazil are poor and uneducated, they even have some people that can use a video camera.

Seriously, was the "Haiti UFO Video" made in Haiti or by someone from Haiti?

If this was faked in any way it could have been made by someone from any country, as far as we know, it could have been made by the Pope (that is a good theme for a new(?) conspirancy . ).

It was made by someone at a Post-Production facility in London.

It might be The Mill, can't remember.

Stand down.

reply to post by ArMaP


lol thats not at all what i was implying, sorry.

What i meant to say what that, if this is genuine footage, which i believe it is, then it was filmed by someone in Brazil.
given that, Brazil is known to not have the best technology.

so, i making an assumption that maybe, just maybe, their video camera is not as sophisticated and some peoples camera over here that has all the technology that omnicron mentioned...

my camera is only 4 years old and it doesnt have all that technology.

this is just my assumption, i have no proof to back it up though.
sorry i offended anyone.

brazil is awesome... and so is their soccer team

reply to post by Odessy


I don't remember all posts from omnicron, but I think he was not talking about the camera technology but about the post-processing possibilities that are available today to anyone with a computer.

But I may be wrong.

PS: I wasn't offended (I am not even Brazilian), but I thought it could be interpreted in a different way than that that you intended it to be.

Originally posted by Mr Gunter
It was made by someone at a Post-Production facility in London.

It might be The Mill, can't remember.

Stand down.

so this is a proven hoax then?

if you have that information please share so we can stop disputing this video

This is the first iv seen of this video, can someone get the raw data file of the OP on youtube? pause it at 3.28 ...

reply to post by Odessy

their video camera is not as sophisticated and some peoples camera over here that has all the technology that omnicron mentioned

LOL you are definitely living in the 8O's. You didn't even know I was talking about rendering and post.
And wow I wouldn't even think that someone would waste their time looking at my previous post when I was playing around to test the waters of ATS.

If this dude has a camera then he or she is definitely not poor. And since he can upload to youtube, he definitely has a computer and a relatively fast Internet connection. And how can you tell what camera he used since the video he uploaded has gone to prbbably many formats and compressed for the web? That shows how insipid your assessments were to think that y

And look, does anyone in here have any evidence that this was shot in Brazil, or the battery went dead or who the person actually is? Zero evidence to support his or her capapbility and credibility. And the footage CAN be faked using todays standalone 3d animation and rendernig software with/and/or compositing software. You don't have to buy it. You can downlaod it via torrent sites dozens and dozens of tutorial DVDs. You only need a few months learning it if you do that. But I'm pretty sure you don't know what torrent means.

If you say that this video CAN'T be faked (with rendered model composites and post process , while not having any evidence of who or where the original footage was shot, really you have been living in a freaking cave.

If anyone knows how to speak the languange that he use, pm him and tell him to send the original footage of the video to professional video analysts.

Since this video has been out for a while I think we should have known by now if he did and if the video was proven true. But this video still remains in the Youtube hall of fakes, with the rest of the CGI fakes.

No wonder people have been taken for a ride by the chad drone and Haiti ufo fakes, many of the believers haven't educated themselves or even did any research. Really those who were deceived by these fakes are really living in a cave.






[edit on 29-12-2007 by omnicron]

[edit on 29-12-2007 by omnicron]

reply to post by omnicron


please, tell where i stated this person was poor...

obviously he owns a camera, and uploaded it to his computer... and even knows how to visit youtube on the world wide web... trust me, as much as you think it, I'm not stupid.

also, lets not get lost in the things said in petty argument.
this is where you're supposed to give a theory or a decent explanation if why you think the video is a fake, which you have not done...

reply to post by omnicron


i know what a torrent is (i use azureus to dl), sorry i didnt know what you were talking about with rendering the picture... you have superior computer skills than me, i should bow.

I never said this video CANT be faked either... please find that in my previous posts and prove it.

I simply addressed that you insisted on posting FAKE with not even an explanation...

Yes yes, you did later say it had tell-tale signs of being CGI, and again gave no evidence.

If you would, please stop putting words in my mouth.

Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by omnicron

 

also, lets not get lost in the things said in petty argument.
this is where you're supposed to give a theory or a decent explanation if why you think the video is a fake, which you have not done...

Exactly.

I say it looked like a flying mechanical jellyfish.

I asked the person who filmed the spiky ufo for some more details and this is their reply. I've done an online translation to English but it doesn't make much sense to me so here it is in Portuguese (I think). Can someone here translate it properly? Would be great.Their reply - " olá [wigit], sou shirley de queiroz, e infelismente nao falo inglês, mas, em resposta ás suas perguntas: O video foi feito em meados de 1995, ou 1996...Se entendi direito, voce pergunta se havia mais alguma testemunha, éramos ao todo,cinco pessoas: eu e meus quatro netos, o mais novo, que durante a gravação, é o mais escandaloso, estava na ocasiao, com quatro anos, hoje ele tem dezessete anos de idade. Ainda com relação a ser visto por outra pessoas: durante passagem dele,o objeto nao identificado, atravessando o céu, na avenida que corta a minha rua, algumas crianças empinavam pipas, no video um de meus netos, o Rafael, menciona isto.Após o acontecimento , ainda tomada pela emoção, fui saber o que eles tinham sentido, ao ver tão estranho objeto...ninguem viu nada. Mais outro detalhe: estavamos em uma lage, quase 9 metros acima do chão, e os garotos que empinavam pipas, estavam no chão.Quanto a partida do objeto, ele nao partiu, apenas seguiu seu caminho,atravessou o céu, há um momento no vídeo que as crianças ficam asustadas e chegam a gritar que ele vai nos pegar, e é quando ele passa sobre nossas cabeças...mas segue seu caminho tranquilamente. outro detalhe: a fita não está inteira, mas eu gravei até seu desaparecimento no horizonte.


obrigada por não ter feito piado deste fato ...é mais sério do que pensamos nós. Caso queira se comunicar, fica um pouquinho dificil porque falamos idiomas diferente, mas com boa vontade, tudo fica possível , meu e mail é :****
um verdadeiro abraço desta brasileira , shirley de queiroz "

Thanks wigit.

My translation:

Hi [wigit], I am shirley de queiroz, and unfortunately I do not speak English, but as an answer to your questions: The video was made in 1995 or 1996... If I understood it well, you ask if there were any more witnesses, we were a total of five people: me and my four grand-sons, the youngest, that during the video was the most scandalous, was at the time four years old, he is now seventeen. Still regarding being seen by other people: during its transit, the unidentified object, crossing the sky, in the avenue that crosses my street, some children were flying kites, in the video one of my grand-sons, Rafael, talks about it. After the event, still under the emotion, I went to ask what they felt seeing such a strange object...nobody had seen it. Another thing: we were on a platform, almost 9 metres above ground, the kids that were flying the kites were on the ground. About the departure of the object, it did not departed, it just followed its path, crossed the sky, there is a moment in the video when the children get scared e even scream that it was going to catch us, and that is when it passed over our heads...but keeps on its calmly on its way. Another thing, the video is not complete, but I recorded until it disappeared on the horizon.

Thanks for not joking about it... it is more serious than we think. In case you want to communicate, it is a little bit difficult because we speak different languages, but with good will, everything is possible, my email is :****
a real hug from this Brazilian woman, shirley de queiroz.

Thanks ArMap, great job in translating. I'll have to write back and thank the lady too. Interesting story. I think I'd have screamed like those kids if it starting coming near me.

reply to post by ArMaP


I just wanted to post the email i got back today from her too, I will post it anyway here it is:

olá (), voce nao fala portugues, e eu, infelismente, nao falo inglês, mas, se consegui compreender um pouco do que voce pede, voce quer detalhes: bem, o video foi feito entre 1994 ou 1995, não estou bem certa. Quanto ao fato testemunhado, éramos cinco sobre uma lage, eu e meus netos, o mais novo que na época estava com quatro anos de idade, hoje está com dezessete e envergonha-se de ter gritado tanto, na verdade ele ficou histerico...mas ele nao foi o único, os mais velhos chegaram a pensar que seriamos atacados pelo objeto, que em determinados momentos mais parecia um animal , eu mesma chego a chama-lo de grande aranha. O tamanho, eu o calculo grande, muito grande...veja, eu costumo fazer gravações de aviões quando passam sobre minha casa, e a considerar o tamanho...sabemos que o avião tem um tamanho muitas vezes maior que aquele que avistamos, entao quanto ao objeto, deve ser o mesmo resultado. Veja, o tamanho da fita é maior, eu o trunquei por que achava que o youtube nao aceitaria inteira. Nos acompanhamos toda sua caminhada, até o extremo do céu, quando ele, para nossa imensa tristeza, desaparece. Caso voce queira comunicar-se para saber mais, o meu e mail é: xxxxxx - meu telefone é xxxxxx, vai mudar para xxxxxxxxx

obrigada pelos augurios de boas festas, para voce também, apesar do atraso,

um abraço

Well, as I have the time for it, here goes the translation.

Hi (), you don't speak Portuguese, and I, unfortunately, do not speak English, but if I succeeded in understanding a little of what you ask, you want details: well, the video was made between 1994 or 1995, I am not sure. About the witnessed fact, we were five on a platform*, me and my grand-sons, the youngest that was four years old at the time is now seventeen and is ashamed that he screamed so much, in fact he became hysteric...but he was not the only one, the older even thought that we would be attacked by the object, that at certain occasions looked more like an animal, I even called once a big spider. The size, I think it was large, very large...you see, I am used to tape airplanes when they fly over my house, i considering the size...we know that the airplane has a much bigger size than that that we see, so the object, it must have been the same. See, the size of the tape is bigger, I truncated it because I thought that YouTube would not accept the full video. We followed all its journey, until the sky's edge, when it, to our great sadness, disappeared.
In case you want to communicate to know more, my email is:xxxxxx - my telephone is xxxxxxx, is going to change to xxxxxxxxx

Thank for the happy holidays wishes, to you to, despite the delay

a hug

* - the original word, "lage", means "slab", and as she said on the e-mail sent to wigit that they were almost 9 metres above the ground, I think that she meant to say that they were on a concrete platform of some kind, like a terrace.

intresting, armap you should talk to her directly, say that u are a freind of the person who contacted her originaly, and try and get the original format of her, show her steps on how to upload it to a server so we can get the raw data.

i saw this video on another forum and contacted the person who filmed it, she send me a message and i will post here

"olá anarkhy666 , veja , para elucidar: observe desde o começo, ouça as nossas frases,veja que ele abre e fecha,chega a sumir por algum tempo entre as nuvens,quando reaparece,principia a tentativa de se manter aberto, observe a luz que emana de suas garras, veja que elas nao sao exatamente compactas como teria que ser,caso fosse um balão,é algo que parece solto ao vento,você vê que quando ele está vindo, nota-se sobre seu corpo, uma especie de cúpula,que parece transparente, e é aí que deixo de acreditar que seja um animal,porque até cheguei a pensar que fosse uma aranha do tamanho (real) de um avião. E tem mais, alguns menos atentos,chegam a dizer que é uma pipa,nao poderia, ia precisar muita linha, ele vem da zona norte e vai para a zona sul, de um extremo ao outro a gravaçao foi feita até o fim, quando desconsolados, constatamos que ele havia se perdido no horizonte.se é nocivo ou nao, nao estou qualificada para te responder...isto só saberemos o dia que eles mostrarem o que de fato pretedem. A proposito, o que é rapidshare? nao sou habitual da internete. eu lhe envio sim.Voce pergunta sobre o tamanho : veja, eu o calculo assim: um avião visto no ceu, ou mesmo filmado,veja o tamanho que é visto e lembre qual é o seu real tamanho. bom lembrar que ele está em uma altura maior do que a dos aviões quando passam por aqui...então...A camara que o filmou é uma JVCmodelo GR-AX900U- 120 x zoom, e por falar nisso, agora eu tenho certeza da data em que foi filmado, é quase a mesma data da camara, entao nao é 1994, como eu ja respondi para alguem,é julho ou agosto de 1995."