Senate Passes Veterans Disarmament Bill

One more thing, some Vets may seem tough or worrisome to the fancy pant bureaucrat fat cats up in Washington, who have not listened to anything which would improve the quality of life for the Vets. They are probably afraid that as many of the Vets become more ill from unknown causes, and neglect they may just nut up and go off on their pansy access.

I put my bets on the do gooders the ones that are calm cool and repressive to be the biggest threat to society long before the Vets.

Hell, even Ted Bundy would have been a prime candidate for a clear gun permit according to legislation.

Maybe if the military actually helped men and women suffering from PTSD, getting them the proper care they require, they wouldn’t have to worry about those diagnosed owning guns. I don’t think this is part of a larger conspiracy; it just fits the government’s twisted logic.

[edit on 7-10-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Every word and right in the Constitution and Bill of Rights is meaningless until and unless it is enforced with force, or can be enforced or must be enforced with force. The Second Amendment is the ONLY inalienable right which guarantees all of the remainder of the rights. The right to keep and bear arms comes from the God given right to self preservation and self defense. This is a natural right and as such it is not revocable nor is it a privilege to be granted by a governmetn. The only good politician is one with a gun to his head. Give him the gun and he will put it onto your head.

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Right, everyone has suffered PTSD to some extent or another by just being born on the planet. Not everyone succumbs to it in the way they want you to see it as. I really liked the post on the previous page where they mention McCain having suffered, he should be barring the doors from this bill to get the military vote, he just does not care one ioda.

I just hope the new recruits are wiser than this. They have to know they are no more than a couple of years away from the same diagnosis.

"This bill will make America safer without affecting the rights of a single law-abiding citizen," said the Senate's chief sponsor, New York Democrat Chuck Schumer.

Whatever comes out of this mans mouth about firearms is a lie.
Mentally ill people are law abiding citizens. Schumer is a liar regarding firearms.

One of the House's chief sponsors, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, spoke in the full House about her husband, who was killed by a gunman on the Long Island Railroad in New York.
It is sad that her husband did not own a firearm and maybe he would have killed the gunman himself. She is using emotional reasoning to pluck the heart strings of weeping pussilinamious persons.

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You attempt to make a valid point, however, speaking from the point of view I hold (27 months in combat in Iraq), you are mistaken. Combat soldiers such as myself are trained in the use of firearms, and anyone that has spent more than two Tuesdays in a combat zone and claims they don't have problems are the ones that need checked out. When a "flashback" occurs, sometimes the only thing that makes a combat veteran feel secure is cold steel at his fingertips. As a Soldier, I am trained to put complete faith in my rifle, a security blanket if you will. After spending 24 hours a day for 27 months with my rifle, I tend to feel a little more relaxed and laid back when I know there are firearms within reach.

my father is a WW2 vet with Alzheimer's but no one need worry because i have his guns locked up in my gun safe and that is where they will stay.

I hold his power of attorney and for the cops to take them from me would be very hard because they would need a court order and to get that they would have to go to court with ME there and when they send me the notice for the hearings the guns will go out of state before the court date to one of my brothers homes.

in other words they can play there game till h**l freezes over.

I am a vietnam veteran


[edit on 31-12-2008 by ANNED]