American Women

reply to post by Conundrum04



Nope not a warning, simply a reminder,

I will agree that there are a lot of gold digging floosies out there, and while I disagree with the generalized comment, I can't help but to conceed on that fact. It's probably the main reason why I as a woman can not find many decent female friends. I have found that there are a lot of women who are extremily catty and competitive in ways they really don't need to be with other women.

However, American men aren't exactly kosher either and I think that many American men not only help create this female gold-digging monster but help it to fester. I mean, we have many men like Hugh Hefner and Donald Trump who simply "throw away" their wife/girlfriend when they turn a certain age for a "newer model". All these extremily high expectations that these same type of men have as well of a woman appearance wise and what not.

So here is what I propose, let us let the piggy women and the piggy men have eachother and the rest of us can go on with our lives laughing our butts off at them.

reply to post by Conundrum04

Sorry, Not American and Not a PIG.

My husband won the lottery with me!

Originally posted by Conundrum04

BTW, how are the aussie chicks out there?

Well at the time back in the days when I was much younger and sowing wild oats,then imo they were very very good,thank you for askin.

But as time went on I realized more and more that its immature to be that way,that finding someone and making a stand and a commitment was for the best.Rather than looking for another notch in the belt.

But to your question,I`d say Aussie girls would be very similar to all the girls in any western society.

reply to post by Conundrum04


'American women are pigs'

And proof of this? Just try to find ONE married woman who feels she has any obligation to give sex to her husband. I couldn't find any!

Just for the record; I love all the beautiful girls in the world and even the ugly ones too, cuz to me your pretty anyways babbeh.

I laughed out loud when I read the OP.

Man, talk about sour grapes! The whole "women are obssessed with money and power thing." Which is of course why "the prince" was written by a woman.

He's in good company, though. Nietzsche couldn't get laid either; he even coined a phrase for how women are to blame for men's sins: "the will to power."


Sure, women only care about money. If you are hitting on prostitutes. Trailer-park trash only care about monster trucks; but what's your point? That you don't like hookers? Fine, then quit whining about how come all the quality women aren't standing in line to meetcha.

When you say "all american women are pigs" do you include naturalized citizens, or only natives? Coz you don't have to wed a foreigner to marry a broad. Tsk, never could get that joke right.

Did you spend new year's alone?

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reply to post by dr_strangecraft


I just speak from my experience and also observation.

I used to play college football and used to get a lot of tail. After me and my college girlfriend of 5 years split, I realized it was a lot harder to sustain a long term relationship with other women(3 months tops). I realize now that if you don't have history or association(school/work) with a woman, it makes it much harder for a long term relationship(unless you have power) to work.

Right now, I don't even bother looking for a woman to ask out. There is no point right now. Any kind of intimate association with a female at this time in my life would be a major, major distraction.

I'm working on achieving my goals first and once these goals are achieved I won't have work too hard to get american women(women in general) because I will be in a position of power. It is a lonely journey but it has a big payoff.

Now mind you, I'm not pursuing a position of power for the sole purpose to get women. As a matter of fact, when I started this journey years ago, I wasn't even concerned about power and I had a girlfriend anyway. I just realized from observation over time that this was absolute truth.

And yes. I didn't do anything for new years. It's just another night to try and get laid. Been there done that.








[edit on 5-1-2008 by Conundrum04]

reply to post by Conundrum04


I hear a couple of things coming through in your posts.

Maybe it was easier, back in college, for you to hook up with a certain kind of woman without much effort on your part.

college is a special time. There are a lot of girls in college looking for a fling with a guy they are not particularly interested in having breakfast with . . . or more importantly, building a family with.

Perhaps your tastes and expectations have changed since college. Maybe the sorts of encounters that met your needs back then don't meet your newer needs now.

For instance. I still appreciate looking at pretty women. But would I want to have a tryst with one? No. And not just because of my wife. But because I remember how essentially lonely it is for me to sleep with someone I wouldn't trust to hold my wallet for an hour, or to borrow my car for the weekend without wrecking it. I want a woman who makes me feel better about myself; and she's not sitting in some bar across town--she lives at my house.

I remember showing up at a social function, with people I admired (back when I admired people), and the pretty young thing on my arm was an embarrassment for the entire evening. She had no idea of what I did for a living, or of the concepts and issues the people in the room dealt with professionally. The other guests wanted to discuss politics, art, travel and 'culture.' She kept talking about TV.

That changed when I found a different life, and found a mate who makes me look good for want of a better phrase. She makes me look good to myself, even though no one else is looking.

Now, all the women you're complaining about just want someone they can be proud of, someone who "makes them look good." Maybe you want someone who makes . . . you look good (or feel good about yourself). And the women you are used to hooking up with don't do that anymore.

Point is, to me it sounds like you are projecting. Projecting your own dissatisfaction onto other people. Other people weren't put on this earth for the purpose of loving you. Other people are not responsible for your happiness.

There is an incredible variety of women out there, like snowflakes. If you're experience is negative, then it reflects as much on your experience as it does on the women you've dealt with.



An old girlfriend: "You are the lousiest lover on the whole freakin' planet!"

Me: "I don't believe you. That would be too much of a coincidence."


The Upshot is, not all women are money-hungry pigs. My wife makes about 20 grand a year more than I do. She has for the whole decade of our marriage, except for two years, I think. I met her when she was finishing up a prestigious graduate program, and had job offers that paid more than any job I've ever even applied for. And she married me when I was an unemployed, un-funded grad student. Is she a pig?

Finding a good person, a permanent thing, is hard work. Most of the men I know (I don't know you) that scream about the shortcomings of women are unwilling to do the hard work of hunting down the one they want.

That, and they expect beautiful women to hang around with a slob who wont even comb his hair, and who cannot be bothered to take them on a real date.



Note: having her watch you play halo 3 with your friends is not a date. Taking her to the mall isn't, either. Unless she's the girl I was embarrassed by at the party . . . .

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[edit on 6-1-2008 by dr_strangecraft]

reply to post by Conundrum04


So, while you were in college and played football, you got a lot of tail, yet you had a girlfriend for 5 years?

What's wrong with this picture?

I somehow think the problem with women being "pigs" to you, has nothing to do with how you describe them.

If I had a boyfriend that got lots of tail while he was supposedly with me, you betcha I'd get everything I could outa the guy that I could, and then dump him like a hot potato!

Just out of curiousity, since you feel American women are "pigs," what barnyard animal would you use to describe yourself?

Rear end of a donkey, per chance?

Originally posted by Enthralled Fan
Just out of curiousity, since you feel American women are "pigs," what barnyard animal would you use to describe yourself?

Or your mother? What animal was she? She sure didn't teach her kid any reason to respect women.


My mom's been buried for close to a decade, and I still show women as much respect as they will let me. It's just the way she raised me. hmmm.

Originally posted by phatkhat

'American women are pigs'

And proof of this? Just try to find ONE married woman who feels she has any obligation to give sex to her husband. I couldn't find any!

Man. I just found this little gem.


You know, I like different kinds of sex. Make-up sex is pretty cool. So is reunion sex. Right now we specialize is "pssst---the kids are asleep" sex. when I was a virgin I even tried to get sympathy sex. But I've never even heard of obligation sex.



Is that where she doesn't bother to take off her burkha?



I bet it was an obligation for her. Every single time.


just. wow.

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In my current avocation as a semipro musician playing in the bars and casinos in the American Rocky mts. I meet a great many women and the vast majority of them are looking for what most men are looking for. A little Peace, love and understanding and a few laughs. Of coarse there are the occasional one's that want to humiliate you and string out your guts; but they are easy to spot, thus avoid. The skill I have developed
thru practice is not to make snap generalizations on appearance or even attitude. Just have a nice conversation over a drink and talk about "Her" life. People are so interested in themselves it's astonishing.

I really like people and women in particular even though I'm a bit intimidated by very intelligent Mensa types. I really don't understand the
concept of the "war between the sexes" For me human relations has ceased to be on the competitive level. There is no such thing as "scoring" anymore. No feeling of being desperate for love, romance, sex. Just relax, go with the flow and enjoy making friends. Be detached from all the games and posturing. It's really very simple, but not so easy.

I love the strength and diversity of American women in the urban landscape and in the tourist backwaters. I just hope I can hold on for acouple more years.

reply to post by dr_strangecraft


lol...and that little gem is obviously a little fact. And your saying she should decide everything?
The point is > marriage and relationships are only good for those who are looking to raise a family, and face it, most men aren't. If you can get >hookers< for same price as the cost of the date, why even bother?

Originally posted by phatkhat

lol...and that little gem is obviously a little fact. And your saying she should decide everything?

Of course not; I'm saying, if she doesn't decide anything, why would any woman bother, any more than a man would if he never got his way either.

The point is > marriage and relationships are only good for those who are looking to raise a family, and face it, most men aren't.

Depends on your sampling of "most men." If you mean the 3 billion male humans, then yes they are in fact mostly desiring to raise a family. On the other hand, if by "most men" you mean most affluent YOUNG men found on internet web sites, then you may well be correct. Most of them are just looking for a booty call, and shouldn't confuse it with marriage, to the harm of both institutions.

If you can get >hookers< for same price as the cost of the date, why even bother?

Well, if you like disease-ridden skanks, then there probably isn't that much difference after all. Or maybe the callgirls there are pretty even in strong lighting, and are stunning conversationalists.

For me personally, I don't measure the success of a date using some sort of cost/benefit analysis where coitus and currency collide. But hey, that's just me.

all the baste

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reply to post by Conundrum04


Aha. I see your problem, now.

You objectify women. they're not people to you, they are objects.

That's why you can't find a woman worth being with -- you have to be worthy of one first.

I sincerely hope that someday you'll wake up and see the error of your ways. Maybe then you'll find a female that doesn't reflect what you're putting out into the world yourself.

reply to post by MajorMalfunction


'Well, if you like disease-ridden skanks, then there probably isn't that much difference after all. Or maybe the callgirls there are pretty even in strong lighting, and are stunning conversationalists.'

so all who sleep around are 'diseased ridden?' Those concerns fell by the wayside since the sexual revolution ...you still livin the 50s

'For me personally, I don't measure the success of a date using some sort of cost/benefit analysis where coitus and currency collide. But hey, that's just me.'

ya, so you just don't mind sleeping with something that looks like...you know..lol...your choice.

I think you replied to the wrong thread, because I didn't say any of that.

And, BTW, I'm a woman.

DrS. Youare so right on...

Now I really do not appreciate you speaking your mental vomit on all of us very very fine American Women on this forum. You are obviously a troll and a mentally unstable one at that. I can bet that if you were in a room filled with 1,000 intelligent, strong, well balanced, spiritually aware, financially independent, artist, mature, funloving American women, you would seek out and find the "One" that was dysfunctional, shallow and greedy,. You really do get back what you put out in a relationship, and your ship is destined to sink. Also might I add that there is so much more to a relationship than the survival level, lower chakra energy that you seem to be stuck in.

[edit on 6-1-2008 by antar]

reply to post by MajorMalfunction


This guy got his views on American women from watching FOX and Friends !LOL