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posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 02:53 PM
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Its more belivable to have faith in my pencil at least I can see it.


just because you can't see something does not mean it doesn't exist

can you see the wind?

can you see feelings?

visual aspects of things is not an excuse to discredit them



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by TekNo88
Theres always that possibility that religion is fake and what not. I'm just going to be christian till i die. If heaven is real i'll go there, if it isnt oh well.


This is one of the funniest posts I've read in a long time.


I suppose it all depends on what your definition of "Christian" is and how strong your faith in it is, but if you really believe in it then go for it dude.



posted on Feb, 6 2004 @ 10:58 PM
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You guys misunderstand.

worldwatcher, jesus teaches that you will pay for every sin you commit even if you repent. This is what our church teaches, the true meaning of suffering and paying for sin in this world so we will not have to do so
in the next.

also i noticed something. You said or someoe said that what seems evil to some may not to others. So how can former rapest and murderers be evil when in their own minds its not when commited? Every penny of sin will be payed in full. I have commited alot of sin myself and I wll
pay every ounce of sin I comited.



But after this due is payed and the sinner does not sin after their former crimes, then he will enter the kingdom cleansed by suffering, from his own sins, but he will surely pay.





Cats do have feelings and emotions, its great how God made them, but they are ceature without (reasson). They eat on instinct, wherefore we could go days and days of fasting without eating baised on our ability to choose. If a cat is hungry it will eat. If a man is hungry he may not eat and want to fast. cats
do not know what fasting is.


You see they do not know sin, they cannot commit evil, they cannot curse at each other, they cannot feel (hate), they feel love because Love is apart of God and hate is not, this is why they cannot hate, they can defend against predators, but not hate like we can because hating is a choice that is not of God that comes from free will.




see what im trying to say?



" No sense in arguing "


exactly, it will get us no where, ive learned this plenty of times in my life.





Peace.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 04:59 AM
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Then explain this to me Truth.

One of the Ten Commandments is Thou Shalt Not Steal.
On Easter Island stealing was only looked at as being a crime if the culprit got caught. Otherwise it was considered virtuous.
Why? Well on an island with limited resources it was seen as a way of spreading the wealth. It was a necessary part of life and survival.

As this was an isolated community surviving on their own, they had never heard of the Commandments. But as theft is a sin, does this mean that every Easter Islander was destined for hell?

I think not. Generalisation of sin seems to me to be a sin in itself.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by kurtcobainuk

If Jesus does come back to earth it will not be with "little green men"



It would be interresting. Jesus comming back on Earth with a bunch of ET's. The situation will look like in Stargate and the false gods ( Goa'uld ).

P.S : I won't worship an ET.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 05:56 AM
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kurtcobainuk

You are secular religous meaning that your own relgion is your self.

Secular relgious people are like sheep that want to make their own path throw the valley of death.

Followers of jesus, look at him as shepared, we the sheep that are guided by throw the valley of death.

Only the shpared can lead people throw the valley of death.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 05:58 AM
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Secular relgious people are in their millions now.

Most are lost in imorality, ethics and good.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 06:20 AM
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Surely i could just follow the other sheep but know they are being led by the shepard?



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 01:44 PM
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well its nearly feb the 9th and i wonder what will happen.....if Jesus comes i clearly am not going to be saved i feel.

What gives people the right to say that certain people wont be saved.

At the end of it all if God is benevolent, then surely "he" could tell "real" people and clean souls rather than "bad" people.



posted on Feb, 7 2004 @ 04:04 PM
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Faith in an inanimate object?? I don't see the relevance, but ok, it's your soul and eternity were talking about here...

Commandment 1 : Thou shall have no other Gods before me

Commandment 2: Thou shall not make for theyself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I; the LORD your GOD, am a jealous GOD, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Shall we continue?


These are Laws. You obviously dont understand spirituality in to many senses, Dr.Know.

Faith, is simple faith in the unknown. The Unknown does not always equate to God.

These Commandments have no relevance to me, Im not Christian, nor do these serve any relevance in the modern world, hence the wide spread flux of many religious doctrines.

Deep



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