This is Why I Think "The Greys" Might Be a Myth...

reply to post by eRauzed


Greys or should we say The Zetas are very generic for a few reasons.

1st = The main bulk of greys being reported are probably cloned workers, it stands to reason that an advanced race would have evolved to stage were change in some areas is not needed. Take an Ant colony for example, they have evolved over time to breed certain members to do one job, make them look all the same so they know whos who doing what. The same applies to any mass colony creature on earth, shouldnt the same rules of evolution apply were ever you go.

2nd = The scare factor and continuity. They may want us to think they all look the way we see them.

And of course there is always the dying race theory. They could have cloned themselves to genetic extinction, hence the harvesting theory.

Originally posted by timelike
reply to post by HIFIGUY

 

Hi HIFIGUY. I don't wish to sound rude or confrontational, and I think it's only fair I say that I don't belive alien abductions are done by ETs, however, why is this experience so terrible? Surley if it really is real, then you're meeting an ET race for the first time, all the things you could ask, learn etc?

I could go with that. Im not against meeting them I suppose, but I guess like anything else in life, I wasnt ready for it to the point of trama.

The only thing I cannot explain was this big huge bird in the room the last time they came in. Strieber said he saw an owl. I saw something that looked like Big Bird but I was in so much trama and trying to get under my covers that I didnt get an ID on him..He was poking through the blanket..again..terrifying.

I wrote to strieber about it once, and he is falling back on organic brain disorder of some type claiming that its some type of mental illness.
Ok..Im game for that if he is as my experience mirrors his except he saw a giant owl at the end.

What Im wondering is how they fit into the whole God and Christianity picture...if at all.

Peace



[edit on 30-11-2007 by HIFIGUY]

Originally posted by Icon_xof
reply to post by Diplomat

 

I think it would make perfect sense for all members of an advanced race to look alike. Just think of the progress we would make if no one worried about looks, sex, appeal, or any of that stuff. I think the grey race outgrew the need for physical attraction and uniqness. I mean, with an intelligent race, why would you even need to look different or appear more attractive than others? Its just a detriment to progress. Sure with a less advance race where physical ability would outweigh intelligence looks would be important, but not with a super advanced race.

I agree.

Aliens that are possibly a million years ahead of us wouldn't concern them selves with 'looks'.

Also I want to make a point here.

We Humans have pretty much reached our full potential with intelligence for now. You see we have to rely on 'specialists' in every aspect of things. There are no more overall geniuses.

We need to manipulate our DNA in order to advance further and faster because because if we relied on evolution it would take far to long.

I believe these aliens have mastered their DNA and that's why they are so much more intelligent than us.

Our next step in our evolution is the mastery of our DNA.

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reply to post by HIFIGUY


I have read a few of Strieber's work. Whatever anyone's oppinion on the matter, he is a darn good writer! I can only see two conclusions at the moment:

1. The Earth and it's people are under scrutiny by ET entities for purposes unknown and that agenda involves abducting humans.

2. There is some as yet unidentified organic brain disorder which is effecting people.

To be honest, I don't see either alternative as attractive! But at the time of writing, it is absolutley clear that the human mind is very inventive and not at all well understood. I once had a case of sleep paralysis when I was 9 years old, I saw Daleks in my room (sci-fi alien) and it was absolutley real I mean, they were real enough to reflect the light from the landing and everything. It was only the fact that I know they were from sci-fi that got me over the episode. But what if I'd seen greys? Much harder to sort out, and modern culture may have steered my into a place where a one off event can repeat at any time and I have no control over it.

At the moment I concur with Strieber on this- I believe abductions to be an as yet unidentified organic brain disorder which is effecting people.

What Im wondering is how they fit into the whole God and Christianity picture...if at all.
I'm not sure I can add to that, I find the idea of God slightly less plausable than alien visitation. I presume, you have religous reasons for needing to make these experiences compatible with Christianity?

One thing i don't get folks .

Why do you speculate so much?

Why not just listen to the people who claim to know FACTS about them?
Those theories have way more value you know

reply to post by Paul the seeker

I totaly agree,

I quote myself here.

"Take this into consideration: When Dr. Steven Greer is approached to by a person with a story of what they witness he doesn't automatically publish it.
Instead he will document it then hold the information until another person(s) totally unrelated to that person comes forward with a seperate story or incident that collaborates with that story. Also being that these people have excellent credentials makes them very credible. One would have to conclude that the story has some sort of truth."

Originally posted by Alien Abduct
reply to post by Paul the seeker

 

I totaly agree,

I quote myself here.

"Take this into consideration: When Dr. Steven Greer is approached to by a person with a story of what they witness he doesn't automatically publish it.
Instead he will document it then hold the information until another person(s) totally unrelated to that person comes forward with a seperate story or incident that collaborates with that story. Also being that these people have excellent credentials makes them very credible. One would have to conclude that the story has some sort of truth."

Excellent.

That's the exact thing and one who doesn't accept that is simply a debunker to be honest.

reply to post by Paul the seeker


Although you may believe you know otherwise about aliens, many of us don't. All we can do in the absence of proper facts is speculate. The one problem in
listening to the people who claim to know facts about them is that they can be contradictory. Moreover, how do we know they are facts?

Even supposing alien abduction is carried out by aliens (which I personally doubt) someone who is taking individuals against their will and so on is hardly ina trustworthy position, so any 'facts' gained from such creatures must be treated as dubious also!

I might also point out that very credible people can and do make mistakes. Einstein never accepted qunatum theory, something he started to regret later in life. Newton often dabbled with alchemy, and Kepler never really belived his laws of planetary motion. Instead he speant the remainder of his life trying to unite the orbits of the six known planets of the time, with the six geometrical perfect solids.

That's the exact thing and one who doesn't accept that is simply a debunker to be honest.

This seems a little odd. To my mind, debunkers are people who don't even look at the issue. I have examined many many UFO reports and many alien abductions and as yet none have convinced of an alien presence. If I was to be debunking, I wouldn't even bother listening. I think it is quite correct to retain a modicum of sketpicism about these issues, until such time real evidence of ETs presents itself.



[edit on 30-11-2007 by timelike]

It seems all the story tellers and pyscos who actually beleive there are Aliens watching us have very limited imaginations. They all come up with similar small bi-pedal human shaped beings. I cannot believe that the human form would be so closely reproduced on a planet millions of light years away. I am sure there are other more efficient designs that are possible and probable in a lifeform evolved on another planet. If there are UFO's there surely must be hard evidence, but why is it kept so secret. There are probably a number of decision makers who think the are wiser than the masses that would keep these encounters quiet. But on the otherhand, it may set off worldwide panic and the breakdown of society if it was annouced today that aliens were holding a summit at Camp David.

quote]Originally posted by eagledriver
It seems all the story tellers and pyscos who actually beleive there are Aliens watching us have very limited imaginations. They all come up with similar small bi-pedal human shaped beings. I cannot believe that the human form would be so closely reproduced on a planet millions of light years away. I am sure there are other more efficient designs that are possible and probable in a lifeform evolved on another planet. If there are UFO's there surely must be hard evidence, but why is it kept so secret. There are probably a number of decision makers who think the are wiser than the masses that would keep these encounters quiet. But on the otherhand, it may set off worldwide panic and the breakdown of society if it was annouced today that aliens were holding a summit at Camp David.
First of all do you know how far a MILLION light years away is?
You throw it around like its a few miles LOL.

Back on topic. Most scientist agree the most likely scenario of what an advanced life form would look like would be similar to us.

Here's why.

Eyes, ears nose and all other senses located close to the brain so the sensory impulses can reach the brain faster.

Having free 'hands' instead of having the burden of them being in use for mobilization purposes. Therefor, having the opportunity to use them to work tools to use for furthering our evolution and thus evolving into an "intelligent" species.

And to answer another one of your questions.

(my opinion) The Government(s) doesn't release information about ET for reasons of greed.

Because this will solve the worlds energy crisis. The world power holders want to maintain utilization of the current petroleum/natural resource infrastructure in order to make as much money as possible before they have no choice but switch to other means of energy when Petroleum runs dry (which wont be long) which will cost them tons of money.

(They are withholding Alien technology that can solve the worlds energy problems)

I don't believe we would panic most religions have already accounted for the existence of ET.

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[edit on 11/30/2007 by Alien Abduct]

Originally posted by eagledriver
It seems all the story tellers and pyscos who actually beleive there are Aliens watching us have very limited imaginations.

I mean I'd really answer to the strangest sounding opinions but this is just idiotic.

I don't comment on bull# like this and "Alien abduct", you shouldn't and really noone should.

Ignore denyers.

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

Originally posted by Alien Abduct
First of all do you know how far a MILLION light years away is?
You throw it around like its a few miles LOL.

Answer - 5,878,625,373,183 miles

Back on topic. Most scientist agree the most likely scenario of what an advanced life form would look like would be similar to us.

Answer - Assuming the environment, requirements, alien evolution and laws of physics are the same

Here's why.

Eyes, ears nose and all other senses located close to the brain so the sensory impulses can reach the brain faster.

Having free 'hands' instead of having the burden of them being in use for mobilization purposes. Therefor, having the opportunity to use them to work tools to use for furthering our evolution and thus evolving into an "intelligent" species.

And to answer another one of your questions.

(my opinion) The Government(s) doesn't release information about ET for reasons of greed.

Answer - We have no evidence that ET would supply energy or any other technology. Greed I would agree would be paramont, but pranoia would also corrupt govt. officials.

Because this will solve the worlds energy crisis. The world power holders want to maintain utilization of the current petroleum/natural resource infrastructure in order to make as much money as possible before they have no choice but switch to other means of energy when Petroleum runs dry (which wont be long) which will cost them tons of money.

(They are withholding Alien technology that can solve the worlds energy problems)

I don't believe we would panic most religions have already accounted for the existence of ET.

Answer - I do not see anywhere in the bible referring the Alien beings. Also, a lot of crazy people who go mad and a lot of other thrive is lawlessness. Civilized behaviour would not exist because too many will take advantage of it and there are not enough cops to control it even regional unrest.

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[edit on 30-11-2007 by eagledriver]

A recurring theme in this thread seems to be that, for example, white people think all Asian people look the same. I do not believe this to be true. Yes, there are ignorant people out there who actually believe that certain human races on Earth look the same, but they obviously are not very observant.

I goto Sacramento State University, and yesterday as I sat in a lecture-hall classroom, I was thinking of this thread. The classroom is setup in a way where I am able to basically see all of the student's faces. Each and every person looked SO much different from the next. It was actually very interesting to look at everyone with this perspective. I even remember specifically looking at these 3 Asian guys who always sit together in the back row. All 3 of the Asians looked similar to each other when compared to "White" or "Black" students, however, even when compared to each other they were strikingly different. Their facial features were completely different, their hair, their body structure, everything.

So my point here is, the Greys have always seemed to be presented as all looking exactly the same. Most eyewitness stories I read describe them all looking the same. Most pictures or artist renditions that I see depict them all looking the same. Most movies I have seen have depicted the Greys as looking exactly the same (Practically everyone I know who is my age (I'm 25) has seen 'Fire in the Sky').

Asian humans, Black humans, White humans, etc, DO NOT 'look the same' in the same way that the Greys supposedly 'look the same.'

To keep things simple:

1. The most commonly known and seen Greys are worker drones who are cloned bioligical entities that's why they all look the same.

2. Supposedly the real Greys (the ones who control these drones) are not very "grey" at all they reange from grey, green, pink, and even blue there are reportedly even female Greys!

So my point here is, the Greys have always seemed to be presented as all looking exactly the same.

This is where my words apply again.

Why don't they look different?

Because they're workers, neither are they designed to attract each other, nor do they have sex organs.

Biorobots for serveillance craft.

How about reading some books or interviews on the greys?

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

Originally posted by Paul the seeker

Why don't they look different?

Because they're workers, neither are they designed to attract each other, nor do they have sex organs.

Biorobots for serveillance craft.

If true, then yes, that could be a plausible explanation...

Originally posted by Paul the seeker

Originally posted by eagledriver
It seems all the story tellers and pyscos who actually beleive there are Aliens watching us have very limited imaginations.

I mean I'd really answer to the strangest sounding opinions but this is just idiotic.

I don't comment on bull# like this and "Alien abduct", you shouldn't and really noone should.

Ignore denyers.

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

your right but I just wanted to use his dumb comment to make good points.
Also, did you see his response? I think it reflects his level of intelligence LOL

Originally posted by Alien Abduct

Originally posted by Paul the seeker

Originally posted by eagledriver
It seems all the story tellers and pyscos who actually beleive there are Aliens watching us have very limited imaginations.

I mean I'd really answer to the strangest sounding opinions but this is just idiotic.

I don't comment on bull# like this and "Alien abduct", you shouldn't and really noone should.

Ignore denyers.

[edit on 30-11-2007 by Paul the seeker]

your right but I just wanted to use his dumb comment to make good points.
Also, did you see his response? I think it reflects his level of intelligence LOL

Yeah but exploiting someone who doesn't know isn't any better than himself.

You know :/

reply to post by Diplomat


I don't think you understand. If there is a physical difference between the greys I don't think that anyone has spent enough time with them to see that they are in fact different. Another thing is that they probably are in fact different but we are just too terrified being abducted to pay any attention to what the details on their face are.

Originally posted by eRauzed
reply to post by Diplomat

 

I don't think you understand. If there is a physical difference between the greys I don't think that anyone has spent enough time with them to see that they are in fact different. Another thing is that they probably are in fact different but we are just too terrified being abducted to pay any attention to what the details on their face are.

This thread isn't about trying to figure out what it is that makes the Greys unique from each other, it's about asking the question of why all of their faces look exactly the same. You guys keep telling me there are other "non-human" ways to detect their differences, I understand that possibility, but I am talking about their physical appearance.

I mean, am I just flat-out wrong when I say that the Greys have been depicted as having identical faces all along? That is the impression I have always got. And since humans on Earth are considered an "intelligent" species and we all have very different and distinct facial features, then why wouldn't races from other planets also be the same way?

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