Oak Island Could Give Up It's Secrets Soon!!

Theory number 1: it is pirate treasure.

While pirates would hide and bury treasures and loot on islands and other areas, the intent was to go back soon and divide it up among the crew. They risked their lives and lived pretty miserably on the ships and would of wanted to get their share and enjoy it. The pit is extremely deep and does not seem like it was made to be dug up very soon. That is why I rule out pirate treasure.

Theory 2: The tablets and information found by the Knights Templar.

The main problem is that the deep well is very wet and would destroy any scrolls of knowledge, especially since they rigged it to fill with water.

Theory 3: Part of the Knights Templar treasures they received from their banking system.

The Knights Templar made a mint in gold and silver coins from loans to many royal, noble and merchant families. This is a probable guess as many stories claim they divided the wealth up three ways and hid it, one area being the Americas. I think this is a possibility.

Theory 4: The Ark of the Covenant.

This is a newer theory, since one of the claims is the Knights Templar found this artifact. This is another possibility as Oak Island is a place the others would never look for considering the Americas were not known to most of the peoples of Europe at the time.

All these are theories and are fun to speculate about. The fun will be gone once they do finish digging and find out what really is down there.

Originally posted by kidflash2008
Theory number 1: it is pirate treasure.

Theory 2: The tablets and information found by the Knights Templar.

Theory 3: Part of the Knights Templar treasures they received from their banking system.

Theory 4: The Ark of the Covenant.

All these are theories and are fun to speculate about. The fun will be gone once they do finish digging and find out what really is down there.

All I can say is that what I know comes from pretty close to the horse's mouth. But I do have a copy of the Shreddies map that says it was Blackbeard's treasure.

Self edit to say...that's Captain Kidd...not Blackbeard.

[edit on 20-5-2010 by JohnnyCanuck]

Carbon dating of wood from within the pit,
puts it's date at 1575 .
In 1568 , John Hawkins , slave trader ,
lost 2,000,000 pounds to the Spanish , at
Vera Cruz . Francis Drake (Hawkins second
cousin) was a Captain of one of John Oxenham's
ships in an expedition to mainland Panama in
1572 . They captured 2,000,000 pounds in
treasure , which was 'supposedly' handed
back to the Spanish , Oxenham and his ship
were captured , Drake made his escape .

conjecture - Drake betrays Oxenham after
stealing his booty , sails north with
Hawkins , (loaded with copra and slaves)
to Oak Island . Slaves dig money pit ,
Drake and Hawkins leave Stone inscribed
"two million pounds buried forty feet below".
slaves interred in hole along with half the
crew ....and the booty .????????????

at todays prices , the treasure in gold
would be 12 tonnes
valued at $570 million!

[edit on 22-5-2010 by radarloveguy]

This damn thread again. Not that there's anything wrong with it but damn man, it makes me homesick. Sorry.

I love this mystery, and am waiting with baited breath to know more if ever they are able to get to, shall we say, the bottom of it. This is a fascinating topic.

I truly doubt it could be pirate booty because I have a hard time believing pirates would have the engineering knowledge, skill, and desire to make their treasure so difficult to get to. Of course there's always the possibility that an easier way to get the bottom that hole died with them.

And one could always go back to the Da Vinci Code and speculate that the knowledge of what is at the bottom will made made public at some point in time decided by The Priory.

Fun Stuff!

[edit on 23-5-2010 by Hugues de Payens]

reply to post by radarloveguy


Can you put a link to the carbon dating of the wood planks found? I have not heard about the wood being carbon dated, and do wonder if the seawater had any effect on the dating methods.

It would also rule out this being Templar treasure if the dating holds.

I've been lurking on this site for a while, but this topic has driven me to register so I can post.

I want to say my beliefs are under the assumption that the Money Pit is a man made system that at least at some point in time contained something valuable in today's world or not. I do not believe the artifacts that have been found were planted, but if someone from one of the many excavation teams came forward and claimed this to be the case I would then have to consider the Money Pit as a fraud.

As for what could be burried there, it perplexes me. Out of the many internet articles I have read and a few books as well, no one has suggested how the people who built the Pit planned on retrieving what was burried. This would leave me to question why would a pirate bury their life's work in a place they could never get to it again. And although I do not claim to udnerstand a pirate's mentality, it is still concievable that someone who spent their life stealing from other's would rather take it to the grave than allow for others to have it. But this still leaves me questioning if a group of pirates could really build a system this complex for treasure they could never use.

And I do not like to speculate what else could be down there because that's all it is, speculation.

What worries me though is that one the only items brought back from the Pit was a piece of parchment. Now obviously it couldn't have lasted if it were submerged in water the entire duration of it being buried which leads me to believe that the clay seal they broke threw with the auger was to some extrent sealing water from the chamber the contents were held in. And it would also lead you to believe the auger probably destroyed the actual document considering at the very least it ripped it up enough to bring back a piece of it.

I have to say as much as I want for something to be found, I don't believe there ever will be. The site has been toyed with for 200 years by people who were soley interested in digging up what was down there as quickly as possible with no concern for preserving the site. Most of what you read from people to have visted it recently describe the entire island as a cratered wasteland becuase of all the holes drilled in attempts of reaching the bottom. It is to such a bad extent that the alleged bottom of the pit collapsed which means that in order to get the most of what could be down there, they need to sift threw every gram of dirt once they get to that level. Which is something I don't see happening since there are still no real archaeologists doing the dig, just a bunch of obessed treaure hunters.

[edit on 25-5-2010 by Agent 0range]

You guys are going to love this.

Ancient Aliens 2010 Ep 4 "Close Encounters" features a huge segment on Oak Island!

youtube.com...=33s

Enjoy!

I love threads about buried treasure. I hope they dig up something unexpected, but still worth a fortune.

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Originally posted by sandwiches
You guys are going to love this.
Ancient Aliens 2010 Ep 4 "Close Encounters" features a huge segment on Oak Island!

Thanks for the link. I enjoyed the segment provided but ultimately I would put more credence in my Shreddies map.

Which is to say: "Don't step in that, Wilbur..."
The adventure continues.

reply to post by sandwiches


I did see that, and they also conclude it might be the Ark of the Covenant, or one of the portions of the Knights Templar treasure (or both). Maybe the airing of that will get the authorities to grant the permits needed to continue digging.

i've always had a feeling it were the templars that built the money pit. I believe the sinclairs came to america in the 1400's and if they did they would be the best group of people to build such an ingenious pit, since they were master builders. Some of the most amazing cathedrals were built by the templars.

I have been trying to find a site in a north eastern state that is a round watch tower that could have been built around 1400's. If anyone knows what i'm talking about, please reply.

reply to post by BeastMaster2012


I found out what it's called, Newport Tower.

en.wikipedia.org...(Rhode_Island)

I think that also could have been done by the Templars because of it's round design. I think they picked up building round buildings from Muslim architecture and started to use it in their own buildings and churches. The key to the newport tower is figuring out the alignment of the windows, either to the sun, stars or a planet like Venus.

reply to post by kidflash2008


carbon date of 1700+/- 80 years
www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk...

carbon date of 1670+/- 80 years
www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk...

ruler found in pit
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reply to post by radarloveguy


Thank you for posting the links, this adds even more to the mystery of what is down there. It would also rule out the Templar Knights also as the one date is not as old.

I don't get why they think there "must be" treasure down there. Maybe it's just a hydraulic system for some other purpose? Perhaps exploring it is very dangerous and deadly for a very good reason... it's a machine you're not supposed to go inside!

reply to post by sandwiches


If it is a machine, what was it used for? That would make it another mystery as there does not appear to be anything else on the island mechanical in nature. Even if there is no treasure, Oak Island is a compelling enigma.

reply to post by kidflash2008
In the video it shows how they poured red dye into a shaft and it came out in 3 places around the island. When the ocean swells, the money pit fills up with water under pressure. Surely this could have a purpose other than just hiding something...

I think it's a leap to assume the most sacred object in all of Christianity is at the bottom... If the Ark of the Covenant still exists, it will be somewhere more accessible. Heck, the moon would be easier.

It would be cool to decode that tablet, though. The island definitely holds a secret.

That tablet ... my thought as well:

What if the .\. is how to close the water gate, the whole item a series of instructions to be done in a certain order so that it works correctly. The up and down triangles the current around the island, so you can locate on the proper access holes.


Then again, they were big into star gazing, so some of it might be sight lines.

Just a thought ... intriguing little item.

i dont think it was made by pirates but its ignorant to assume a pirate wouldnt be smart enough to dig a hole like that. from the drawings ive seen its actually quite simple and not complex at all. it would have just taken awhile to do all that work.