Oak Island Could Give Up It's Secrets Soon!!

reply to post by II HAL II


Let's keep this Oak Island thread going. I've made a few comments on ATS about it, and I'd like to see it played out.

Just another update for those interested..

It seems things have gone quiet on Oak Island, the latest news back in April mentioned the dig was on hold until sometime this spring or early summer. They also said they were going to keep quite on any findings...

"Whatever results we have we're going to keep to ourselves for now," Mr. Blankenship said. "We're going to wait until we've got a bird in the hand [before we make any announcements]."

www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk...

I guess they've started digging by now... not sure??? I can't find any news on this story since April.

reply to post by II HAL II


I have wondered whether or not this could be a practical joke of some kind by the pirates. Why would they bury their loot so they couldn't get it themselves? If I were one of the pirates, I would be quite upset about it and make the ones who made my share inaccessible walk the plank.
Still, this is a fascinating treasure hunt, so keep us updated.

I was down that way a while ago, but you are not allowed anywhere near the Island without EXPRESS PERMISSION.

I had even heard stories of them meeting you with a riflle on the Causeway.

Don't think anything is going to happen for a while.

reply to post by kidflash2008



I did think that myself at one point but how could pirates get so deep underground when we can hardly do it now in this age.... there is some serious engineering involved in this pit and the surrounding traps. Way too much work was involved to be a hoax especially when you consider the date it was done.

The only thing I can think of is that it was intended to be recovered at some point... and whatever is down there must, must be valuable.

reply to post by Grailkeeper


The site is on private property. The owners don't want anyone to hurt themselves and then sue the owners stating they didn't post any signs (or whatever one files a frivolous lawsuit for). I wouldn't want anyone on my property digging for a treasure and leaving a hole for my family or pets to get hurt.

reply to post by II HAL II


I'm just thinking they knew about the traps and put a little bit of treasure there to keep enemies digging and trying to find the loot. I'm guessing the treasure is not very valuable, but there may be objects and other items of interest in there.

Originally posted by II HAL II
For anyone interested in the Oak Island mystery there is some good news regarding the Money Pit.

If you've read my comments on other Oak Island threads, you'll note that I have mentioned the legendary "Shreddies" map. I am privileged to have been sent a pdf of this document, and if you feel the need, U2U me, and I'll send a copy along. But don't show anybody, cuz it's a secret, eh?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


U2U sent... thanks

What is it? never heard of it before... or is it just a joke?

Originally posted by II HAL II
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

U2U sent... thanks

What is it? never heard of it before... or is it just a joke?

In the early '60s, if you bought a specially marked box of Nabisco Shreddies cereal, you could get one of a series of treasure maps tucked inside. The one that always stood out to me was Oak Island...probably because it is in Canada. Heady stuff for a 7 yr old! I was sent a copy by a fellow enthusiast on another forum. So...not a joke. U2u on it's way back to you, Hal.

Perhaps, just perhaps, some things so evil, are/were buried in such a way as to (hopefully) never see the light of day again!

I (for one) would think, if they have gone to so much trouble to ‘hide/engineer’ this burial, then it is one of two things – fabulous wealth, or something so evil and terrifying that we should ‘let sleeping dogs lie’.

Which would you choose?

H

OR a place made to hide stuff, utilized, then emptied.

reply to post by Hanslune

If you bother to read about the construct of the design you would be able to clearly see that it does not make any sense for it to have been used for storage then emptied out.

But then you probably believe that the mummy of Khufu was robbed in 'ancient times' by bandits who then made off with the estimated 12 ton lid and then resealed the Great Pyramid on their way out...

Hint, suit up!



edit: to add 'lid'

[edit on 26-8-2008 by TheWayISeeIt]

reply to post by Havalon


I am one who thinks they built it to throw off other pirates. They could of thrown in some gold coins to make people think something is valuable down there. The other pirates would then try to dig a hole that keeps flooding itself, while the original owners of the treasure make off with the loot. If I was a pirate, I would want my share of the booty, and would of killed the guy if he put my share in an unreachable pit.
You have to think like a pirate to figure this one out.

Howdy Twisi

If you bother to read about the construct of the design you would be able to clearly see that it does not make any sense for it to have been used for storage then emptied out.

Hans: Why? Please show evidence that it hasn't been? It would seem you don't like to think outside the box, open your mind to other possibilities.

But then you probably believe that the mummy of Khufu was robbed in 'ancient times' by bandits who then made off with the estimated 12 ton lid and then resealed the Great Pyramid on their way out...

Hans: Why are you trying to change the subject? If you are interested in that question start a thread on it instead of trying to hijack someone elses thread.

Hint, suit up!

Hans: Looks like you don't like other people having opinions that differ from your own. Why is that? For myself I would never tell you to "suit up" I'd ask instead that you try to be more open to opinions other than your own and of course to try and study, lots of study. LOL. But then I'm into truth and research and you seem to be into bombastic statements.


[edit on 26/8/08 by Hanslune]

reply to post by Hanslune


Helloo Hans -

Here is why it baffles plausibility that someone bothered to dig the hole for the hell of it. I will excerpt as apects of the design and then link to an article that goes into much greater detail about the elaborate design:

It took the three discoverers 8 years, but they did return. Along with The Onslow Company, formed for the purpose of the search, they began digging again. They quickly got back to 30 foot point that had been reached 8 years ago. They continued down to 90 feet, finding a layer of oak logs at every 10 foot interval. Besides the boards, at 40 feet a layer of charcoal was found, at 50 feet a layer of putty, and at 60 feet a layer of coconut fiber.

They hit water. Because -

As it turns out, an ingenious booby trap had been sprung. The Onslow Company had inadvertently unplugged a 500 foot waterway that had been dug from the pit to nearby Smith's Cove by the pit's designers. As quickly as the water could be pumped out it was refilled by the sea.

This discovery however is only a small part of the intricate plan by the unknown designers to keep people away from the cache.

At 98 feet the drill went through a spruce platform. Then it encountered 4 inches of oak and then 22 inches of what was characterized as "metal in pieces""; Next 8 inches of oak, another 22 inches of metal, 4 inches of oak and another layer of spruce. The conclusion was that they had drilled through 2 casks or chests filled will coins. Upon pulling out the drill they found splinters of oak and strands of what looked like coconut husk.

Interestingly, the earth encountered beneath the bottom spruce platform was loose indicating that the pit may have gone even deeper. A later group of searchers would find out how much deeper.

The Truro Company returned in 1850 with plans to dig another parallel hole and then tunnel over to the Money Pit. Just like before, as they tunneled over, water began to rush in. They brought in pumps to try to get rid of the water but it was impossible to keep the water out. During the pumping someone noticed that at Smith's Cove during low tide there was water coming OUT of the beach.

This find lead to an amazing discovery - the beach was artificial.

It turns out that the pit designers had created a drain system, spread over a 145 foot length of beach, which resembled the fingers of a hand. Each finger was a channel dug into the clay under the beach and lined by rocks. The channels were then filled with beach rocks, covered with several inches of eel grass, and then covered by several more inches of coconut fiber. The effect of this filtering system was that the channels remained clear of silt and sand while water was still allowed to flow along them. The fingers met at a point inland where they fed sea water into a sloping channel which eventually joined the Money Pit some 500 feet away. Later investigations showed this underground channel to have been 4 feet wide, 2 1/2 feet high, lined with stone, and meeting the Money Pit between the depths of 95 to 110 feet.

At 126 feet, wood was struck and then iron. This material is probably part of the material that fell during the crash of the Pit. On other drillings the wood was encountered at 122 feet and the iron was missed completely indicating that the material may be laying in a haphazard way due to the fall.

Between 130 and 151 feet and also between 160 and 171 feet a blue clay was found which consisted of clay, sand, and water. This clay can be used to form a watertight seal and is probably the same "putty"; that was found at the 50 foot level of the Pit.

The major find was in the gap between the putty layers. A cement vault was discovered. The vault itself was 7 feet high with 7 inch thick walls. Inside the vault the drill first struck wood, then a void several inches high and an unknown substance. Next a layer of soft metal was reached, then almost 3 feet of metal pieces, and then more soft metal.

When the drill was brought back up another twist was added to the whole mystery. Attached to the auger was a small piece of sheepskin parchment with the letters "vi"; "ui"; or "wi"; What the parchment is a part of is still in question.

And it just keeps on going in terms of the complexity of the engineering that went into the design of the pit. You can read more HERE

It seems like a lot of trouble to go to after you have already TAKEN the contents out, no? To further make an obvious point, here is a diagram of the pit as they unsderstand it so far.

Hans: Why are you trying to change the subject? If you are interested in that question start a thread on it instead of trying to hijack someone elses thread.

That's what I intend to do and what "Hint, suit up!" meant. Until then -

Cheers!
TWISI

I've been reading about this Oak Island mystery since i was a young lad, and amazingly, it remains unsolved.
As has been pointed out, the complexity of the construction goes far beyond simple engineering!
digging 200 feet+ and building the water canals at the time it was built could be considered an engineering marvel!

Who could have built it? what lies at the bottom??
Its true, the time is nearly here, if they haven't found out yet...

Hopefully they will say something and not keep the mystery to themselves

reply to post by TheOneEyedProphet


Howdy OEP

Yeah I've been interested in it for decades. It was one of the first mysterious things I came across.

Considering the amount of digging there and the depth they have gone to (41/55 meters) I would suspect that if anything was there it would have been found. The fact they went past the distance recorded by the people who claimed they drilled down and found x & y is telling. However we wish the new attempt all success.


A thread from 2005 at the Hall of Ma'at on the Oak Island thingy

[edit on 26/8/08 by Hanslune]

HANS SAID: Yeah I've been interested in it for decades. It was one of the first mysterious things I came across.

So... you know all about ithe "Oak Island thingy" and are standing by your statement that it is reasonable that it is simply:

HANS SAID: a place made to hide stuff, utilized, then emptied.

And as to:

HANS: The fact they went past the distance recorded by the people who claimed they drilled down and found x & y is telling.

Umm, what is your point here...? (beside perhaps a feint and dodge)

Cheers!
TWISI

Nope that was just a speculation to explain why nothing has been found.

The fact they went past the distance recorded by the people who claimed they drilled down and found x & y is telling

Quote from the wiki

Around 1967, Daniel C. Blankenship and David Tobias formed Triton Alliance, Ltd. and purchased most of the island. In 1971, Triton workers excavated a 235-foot (72 m) shaft supported by a steel caisson to bedrock. According to Blankenship and Tobias, cameras lowered down the shaft into a cave below recorded the presence of some chests, human remains, wooden cribbing and tools; however, the images were unclear, and none of these claims have been officially confirmed. The shaft subsequently collapsed, and the excavation was again abandoned. This shaft was later successfully re-dug to 181 feet (55 m), reaching bedrock; work was halted due to lack of funds and the collapse of the partnership.

Unquote

You will note that the shaft was dug out PAST the distance reportedly by the auger bit dudes.

Nothing found.

Umm, what is your point here...? (beside perhaps a feint and dodge)

"feint and dodge", of what Twisi? Remember we all don't live in your paranoid fantasy world. I'm not resposible for Oak Island and needless to say I don't have anything to hide and fient about [laughing at you]