Children herded like cattle into Maryland courthouse for forced vaccinations

reply to post by BlueBottle

It's too late. Run, hide, pray.

Um correct me if im wrong but isn't the purpose of the right to bear arms in the US for the citizens to rise up against an oppressive government?

Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force...Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
~George Washington

reply to post by Zoltan


Gee, it sounds like I would be heathier if I started smoking again insead of taking govn't vacines. The have pushed the wrong buttons too long now. It's time for peeps to stand up for ourselves.

Just my two cents....

I have some major issues with the chemicals used in vaccines and would never let my kids near them inless absolutely necessary.

And if i was forced by penalty of a fine or jail sentence because i had forgotten to fill in an exemption form i would be furious, so i can see where all the emotion in this thread comes from.

BUT.... to those who are considering it....

Resorting to violence is not the answer, by taking this method of action, if there is an NWO or even if its just a fascist gov. you are playing directly into their hands.

Civil unrest would be the perfect excuse they have been looking for to instate martial law, and then huge amounts of blood will possibly be spilt in protest.

I BEG people to reconsider peaceful action before turning to violence. Dont lower yourselves to their level please.

Protect your kids by not exposing them to a posible [civil] war, use your brains and not your fists, there is more than one way to bring giants down.

Anyway peace everyone.......

Argos

[edit on 22/11/07 by Argos]

I made a thread about violent revolution in the USA before this was posted, as I thought you guys were already justified in taking your government back by force.

Unfortunately, after a page or so of replies, the thread was moved to 'slug-fest' then locked and trashed.

Two seperate moderators and two seperate actions.

I still believe that Americans NEED TO WAKE THE HELL UP! and take back their country.

reply to post by Enrikez

I still believe that Americans NEED TO WAKE THE HELL UP! and take back their country.

Thats what i am talking about in my post. There are more guns on the streets in the US than in the armoury. If everyone just rose up the military would have no time to react, not to mention there may be military personnel who join the uprising. Also the US wouldn't be able to bomb their own cities without effecting huge losses to their own economy and wouldnt be in their best interests to do so. And finally if enough people rise up the US govt would not have enough money, time, space and manpower to effectively jail and persecute everyone who was involved.

In no way am i involved in or endorse uprisings. Just a thought though.

Hi There,

I am incredulous that this can happen in America. Slow and incremental ratcheting up of the ante is occurring...it seems deliberate to provoke an outrage and backlash to which martial law can be issued...all timed towards the elections. One wonders what else thay have up their sleeves?

It is essential that a calm and dignified claim to one's 'traditional' American way of life is continued. Any kind of violent uprising will play the whole country into their hands...by that route your enslavement is hastend. I know it is easy for me to say these things from the UK, but many of us fear for you, if you fall, we'll be next, or worse, having to fight Americans in order to free Americans.

Peaceful civil disobedience is the way to go, such as strikes (already being organised), stop buying their products, stop being a cog-in-their-machine, basically. My heart goes out to you all, follow the path and tactics of the civil rights movement, no matter how capable of violence you are, no matter how much they bait you...keep the protest and the struggle peaceful...otherwise, you'll lose.

Best wishes

Well, lets see.....who is the largest employer in the state of Maryland? Why, it's the National Security Agency. Does that surprise anyone?

These forced innoculations are just plain wrong, and illustrate government totally out of control. Or maybe more like government totally IN control?

[edit on 11/22/2007 by TheAvenger]

Sorry canadian person but a violent revolution in the U.S?

What are the non-funded citizens going to do?

Use small arms
Face off against goverment and military branches

lol

Being more humane there are less violent options available that would also make it harder for them to trace you with face recognition software (protesting is no good and violence is effective but... you like breathing).

You guys gotta think harder. There's options available that don't include guns and standing around with a sign and getting wet.

[edit on 22-11-2007 by amanbuthimself]

[edit on 22-11-2007 by amanbuthimself]

reply to post by amanbuthimself


Well how about you enlighten us then?
If there were better alternatives that worked someone would have tried it already. There are far worse police state countries than the US and i don't think there have been many success stories as of late. While i dont agree that a violent approach is the best one, what can you do once the system that prevents corruption becomes corrupted, when there is nobody left who will save you except for yourself. What what you do if you suddenly found that democracy was dead and that you lived in a police state?

reply to post by metaldemon2000


How about writing to your elected representatives? How about when the time comes voting for the person you will think represent your values?

reply to post by amanbuthimself


Oh and i forgot to mention. Even with the super strict arms laws in Canada, one can still legally aquire a small armourys worth of weapons. I l know a few people who have a ridiculous amount of legal weaponry. So i can just imagine the kind of arsenals some US citizens might own. Also i might add that it is not hard to produce homemade explosives and artillary it is basic chemistry and physics that can be learned at the early high school level. And finally i am talking about a massive uprising not a small one with a few guys and a pickup truck. Im sure that some military personell might have a problem with killing thousands of their own countrymen as they might be friends and family and may either stand down or join in. It may even turn into civil war if it got real serious. While nobody actually wants these things to happen it may be the only option available if everyones freedoms were in jeopardy.

reply to post by Chyort


Funny.
Providing said elected official actually reads your letter (doubtful) it would only be used as a joke around the water cooler at the office.
We all know elected peoples dont care about the little guy, that stopped after WWII. Also the good guys never get elected into office anymore. It isn't hard to rig an election anymore. Just looked at the times Bush got elected. Look at what happens to people in China when they try to get together to fix the system, jail or death.

reply to post by metaldemon2000


Wow this thread got off topic.

How do you know that? I've written my representatives and have recieved responses back.

So before WWII the elected officials cared about the little guy? I'm sure virtually every group that was a minority would have disagreed with you. What about during the Civil War? What about during the 1800's when big business like the railroads had (arguably) more control than the federal government? As an American, we have more rights and more ways to change the system than ever before.

If people dont react to this now, they never will react to anything.

This is horrifying and very sad.

I have to admit its very clever by the authorities to have fascism that doesnt look like fascism. It doesnt appear to be a police state on the surface because the sheep still think the president is doing all this to protect them.


[edit on 22-11-2007 by Copernicus]

reply to post by Copernicus


The President is not doing this.

It is the government of Maryland.

[edit on 22-11-2007 by Chyort]

the "its against my religion" card doesnt seem to be of much use in a situation like this?

reply to post by Chyort



AH sorry i was referring to Canadian politicians. They used to do things like send money to war widows and poor families. I admit to knowing nothing about American politics in the early 1900s. Aside from that, local representatives will respond yes but they have very little power in the grand scheme of things. You think Bush will write you back saying sorry for all the dictatorship like oppression, we'll stop the wars now, sorry my bad? I don't think so. He would probably have you added to the list of potential terrorists. And this is what i am talking about. Forget the small fry, the guys at the top run the show. And as for the other comment someone wrote about it's the state thats enforcing it not the Pres, think again. Do you actually believe any state can just go ahead and do whatever the heck it want's to against the Presidents wishes? My guess would be no, he would step in and put a stop to it immediately. Meaning, while Bush doesn't nesscessarily endorse these actions, he certainly isn't doing anything to stop it.

Originally posted by trig_grl
the "its against my religion" card doesnt seem to be of much use in a situation like this?

No but i bet if you say your a terrorist you wont have to go through with it.

The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves and would be throwing tea right and left right now if they could. What the hell's the matter with people in this country?

[edit on 23-11-2007 by ibgrimme]