Weird skull like thing near Opportunity

i still would like to know where the thing is now, and how it got there.everyone seems to be forgetting that it couldn't have moved unless it was alive, or something that is alive moved it. has nasa said anyhting about this?

Well if you want an explaination about this....thing, I suggest someone start emailing NASA like crazy. It worked with the "color" issue, so it might work with this.

Ok,

I am not sure about the other two images, so I will stay with the original one. It sticks out of the ground. How can it stick up out of the groung like that? It could be a rock that was formed by wind or lifeless water erosion, but it could be something else. For the first time I am seeing something that might be an indication of a life form.

This object could have been a tree of some sort. Nothing says it would have to look like trees from earth. Maybe it is a stump. As far as it being a skull, I find it hard to believe that a life form on another planet would have similar traits to life on this planet. So I don't buy that.

What I am trying to say is, yes...that could be a rock. No body in this forum can say that it isn't for sure, but it also could be something else.

Originally posted by Flinx
Well if you want an explaination about this....thing, I suggest someone start emailing NASA like crazy. It worked with the "color" issue, so it might work with this.

Well theres a good way to ruin any chance of an official response to a query from this website ever again...

Spamming is not how we got an answer to the color queries.

Originally posted by Springer

The "bends" is a serious condition caused by too much pressure exerted upon the gasses you breathe. Your body REQUIRES the proper amount of oxegyn no matter what depth or pressure you are at.

The avoidance of the bends, the REASON for mixed gas diving, in very simplistic terms, is to keep your body from dealing with excess nitrogen the same way a coke does, by allowing it to bubble right up to the top.


Okay so if Nitrogen causes the bends, then why would they use Nitrogen in the "deep sea air" mix, if you only need Oxygen ????

Is there something more to our respiration process that science really has not told us.

how could it be something like a rock or a tree, when the thing is CLEARLY NO LONGER THERE. There is quite a bit of RAW pictures from SOL 3 on, that for some interesting reason no longer show that object to be there.

Only if NASA is directed to give us (the public) an answer will we get an answer.

Originally posted by robertfenix

Originally posted by Springer




Okay so if Nitrogen causes the bends, then why would they use Nitrogen in the "deep sea air" mix, if you only need Oxygen ????

Is there something more to our respiration process that science really has not told us.

It's quite simple really. Oxygen is poisonous under pressure.

www.bluebubble.com...

If ONE rock has this strange anomaly then there must be other "rocks" that would be of similar construction, maybe not with TWO almost indentical "spires" and maybe not with orange spike like protrusions on the bottom and maybe not the fact that the "rock's" main body is clearly above the level of the sand, hence the reason there is a shadow projected under it and to the side.

But hey I guess its possible that a rock could form like that. Highly unlikly though considering the vast array of rocks samples that we see in that crater that , well look like rocks and meteor fragments as we expected.

So how this "inanimate" rock or tree stump moved to well outside the view of the rovers 360 pan camera, well I guess we will never know.

Open your mind to the possibility of life on other planets and you will be able to accept what you are seeing for what it really is.

Open your mind to the possibility of life on other planets and you will be able to accept what you are seeing for what it really is.

Oh, my mind is open to all the possibilities, but until we know, "what is really is" anything said is speculation. Who know if we will every get confirmation as to what it really is. Could it be an inanimate object, like a rock? Sure. Could it some some type of creature on the the surface? Sure.

Originally posted by Leveller
It's quite simple really. Oxygen is poisonous under pressure.

www.bluebubble.com...

Plus they are working on Liquid Breathing (we do it in the womb) and this helps with decompression cause in theory there is none. PLEASE NOTE, it is something that they do use for medical applications, and are working on it for diving


www.chm.bris.ac.uk...

Originally posted by robertfenix
Is there something more to our respiration process that science really has not told us.

You really want me to bring back the moron awards dont you?

It is not the responsibility of 'Science' to tell you all there is to know about every subject. It is all out there, you just have to get off your arse and go and research the subjects. You do not learn by sitting there making up your own theories based on isolated points.

If you wish to understand how humans make use of the atmosphere we breathe, go out and find out, don't challenge well tested and understood scientific theories because you only learnt today that the Atmosphere isn't mostly Oxygen. Understand these things first.

It is a component of all living organisms. Nitrogen is essentially a carrier for oxygen in air.

So there for without Nitrogen a human would be unable to process the oxygen ???

As I stated already that Oxygen (pure) Oxygen is deadly to humans because it is an OXIDANT. Equivellant to a "free radical" it can cause your cells to break down.

So then which do you need more, the Nitrogen as a carrier or the Oxygen which it carries. What happens if you have no Nitrogen ? The oxygen that you breath in, is allowed to saturate all of your long tissue to such a high degree that the "free radicals" the excess oxygen that your blood stream can not support begin attaching themselves to other particles within your cells simply breathing in draws in trapped hydrogen O2 particles (water) and soon enough the excess oxygen in your system begins to form fuild in your lungs and you die.

???????? So therefore Nitrogen is VITAL to the respitory system for you to breath and continue to breath.

Here is a good site to explore if you are interested in the medical aspects of diving

www.scubamed.com...

How did we go from "a lil critter on Mars" to
Diving?

I know, I know read the thread. sorry

atmosphere is not just oxygen, I was the one who pointed it out, because people were saying how could a living organisim survive in Mars's atmosphere with such a low concentration of oxygen and with a composition of "air" that is different then here on Earth.

I am quite well aware of how the human respiration system works, thanks.

I just think people are close minded when it comes to what conditions can or can not support life.

With the example of what do you think the "air" composition was like on Earth say 5,000 years ago. Do you really think it was the same as it is now ?

How about the "air" composition in major cities and the populations that live within them, heard of smog ? What happens to those people when they visit a "smog" free city or move to a rural area in another state ? Are there considerable effects that we can observe with regard to changes in respiration.

ABSOLUTLY.

So please come down off your high horse and at least read the threads so that you will understand that you are not dealing with an uneducated, speculation raising, nobody.

on the assumption that IF life was on Mars in a major way and whether slowly or due to some catastrophe on the planet the atmosphere changed and whether or not life could have adapted on Mars to some extent, enough to survive in the current Mars atmosphere.

So began the discussion of what "air" really is here on Earth. And what Humans need to breath in to have a functioning respritory cycle. Combined with the question of if the human respritory system has evolved and adapted to the changing enviroment, due to pollution, human industry, dust, depletion of the CO2 echo system from the worlds scorched earth habits etc.

Could humans over time adapt to an "air" composition radically differenet than what it is today ? If so then, under assumption, could other life on other planets adapt to the changes in their enivroment as well.

Kano. You seem to know alot about life in the universe and how every bloody lifeform around space naturally must behave just like the beasts down here. That a creature which has been created in an environment where there is little or no oxygene, doesn't mean that it will behave like a creature which has been created anaeobic in an environment where oxygen is available. For all we know this could be the remains of a species which lives on carbon dioxide, which through an unknown biologic mechanism similar to photo syntesis makes co2 react to produce oxygene just to spit fire at your arse. Your poorly hid ignorance shines just as moronic glorious around your skull.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

I don't think you are nobody.

Originally posted by robertfenix
With the example of what do you think the "air" composition was like on Earth say 5,000 years ago. Do you really think it was the same as it is now ?

Very similar to what it is now.

How about the "air" composition in major cities and the populations that live within them, heard of smog ? What happens to those people when they visit a "smog" free city or move to a rural area in another state ? Are there considerable effects that we can observe with regard to changes in respiration.

As far as gases in the atmosphere caused by pollution (CO, SO2, O3, etc). They are measured in ppm, well under 1%. Particulate matter is typically measured in micrograms/cubic metre. Also a very small amount, percentage wise.

I'm curious as to where you are planning on going with this. The fact remains that

***slaps forehead in disgust

can we stop arguing symantics here, why are concerned as to what it breathes, if it even breathes at all. I don't think this should be an issue. There is nothing wrong with speculating that the little bugger is a "sand crab" or a "tree" or a "rock"

We all agree it is anamolous and that is all that should matter.
Now people on both sides of the this argument should just go back to finding images, enhancing them and presenting them in an unbiased manner. Let each individual speculate freely and come to their own personal conclusion. Post your point and move on. Educated people can read all the posts, look at the pics and formulate their own theories.

Now who has some new pictures of this thing?

and if you don't work on enhancing what you already have.

Originally posted by Hamilton
Kano. You seem to know alot about life in the universe and how every bloody lifeform around space naturally must behave just like the beasts down here. That a creature which has been created in an environment where there is little or no oxygene, doesn't mean that it will behave like a creature which has been created anaeobic in an environment where oxygen is available. For all we know this could be the remains of a species which lives on carbon dioxide, which through an unknown biologic mechanism similar to photo syntesis makes co2 react to produce oxygene just to spit fire at your arse. Your poorly hid ignorance shines just as moronic glorious around your skull.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Gee, Mikromarius, I never thought you could be more aggravating than you typically are...but it seems that taking on a new username has, in fact, lit your aggravation afterburners!