Do you honesty believe UFO's are ET craft 100% ?

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Well I think UFOs are powered electrically and exhibit a nature and response
that is explained by such phenomena as one shown and developed and
hinted at by Tesla.

Would Tesla recognize the UFO as his design?
Tesla never having seen a UFO or the FOO over Germany... well perhaps
Tesla did read about the FOO in the German papers he had delivered.
OK, lets say Tesla heard about the FOO and realized his electrical flying craft
was built and was going to make an announcement to get back his
stolen rights.. and was killed in 1943... I think so...thats what happened.

See Man Made UFOs 1945 to 1995 for examples of uncensored news reports
at the closing days of WWII.

Any questions on how it flies on electricity I will try to explain the
conspiracy theory as best I can.

So I honesty believe that "UFO's are ET craft" is a 100% secret govenment
cover for stolen Tesla designs.

Electricity, funny you say that.

I havnt seen anything myself, but a few people i know have. What struck me as odd was where one of the people saw one. They saw the craft going over a massive electricity sub station type thing and he said it seemed as though the craft were stealing the electricity. A few other people I know have seen them go into the ocean. Again they were like the plasma balls/orange white.

Ive come across thier same stories from all over the world, people seem to report the same thing. Water and electricity and plasma balls seem to have something in common.

I do believe 100% that UFOs are controlled by Extraterrestrials, but of all the UFO sighting, I think only around 5% are truly worthy of being classified as "ET Controlled Crafts".

It's easy to disprove many videos, such as the now infamous Haiti Video, but UFOs caught flying over the Earth in space that take 90 degree turns and form formations are hard to disprove.

Also implants, abductions, and other alien based phenomena are both false and true. Some implants may be just a household item, but others are other-worldly. Some abductions are just in your head, as I believe, the rest to be real.


Maybe we'll know for certain that aliens are real in 2012, but like any sane person, I have a doubt (not saying it won't happen though).

How many types of ufo's have been identified ? dozens and dozens of varying shapes and sizes, far to many for any one or two prototypes we might be developing secretley.
And for what it is worth, one human to another and in the intrest of honesty
the things that have happend to me, I am 100% certain they are real and 100% sure that knowing does have an affect on you, I think you will find that the people that know just cant relate to the rest of the population and withdraw from it
weird huh.

Originally posted by Monsterenergy791
It's easy to disprove many videos, such as the now infamous Haiti Video, but UFOs caught flying over the Earth in space that take 90 degree turns and form formations are hard to disprove.

The videos show something, but what? What makes you think they're extra-terrestrial alien things? What is the line of evidence that links the one thing with the other?

It's not like they couldn't be something else. Just off the top of my head, what if these little zipping, glowing things are human souls? I'm not saying that they are. But why couldn't they be? Remote viewers describe traveling in orbit, often held to the Earth by glowing silver threads. You could say souls don't exist, but then again, neither do aliens.

As far as I know, some UFOs are the wandering souls of human beings, both alive and dead, as the glowing, pulsating ectoplasmic energy interacts with the magnetic field of the earth. See the problem?

I have mused over an idea for some time that the UFO pheonomena. Based on the observation that someone else spoke of before, on how our...encounters have changed as the years go by.

What if these events aren't real in the way that we think they are, but rather some interpretation of the event in the only way our brains have the means to - like dreaming, relying on the library of symbols that we have to pull from.

Like some disturbance in the time/reality, a flux of some sort. We know that certain things can have an effect on our brains, including EMI.

Clearly I haven't some Grand Mal theory worked out, but there's something here that seems right to me, moreso than thinking that in all of the infinite universe other people are traveling here to scare farmers.

I started looking into this, to see if anyone else has thought of this, and of course I found that this isn't any new idea. But that makes it no less intriguing to me.

For example, this is an interesting thought too:

One thing that is notable about the Fortean "window areas" are a high degree of geomagnetic disturbance. The same EM fields causing the disturbances in electronic hardware may also be disrupting the 'wetware' of the brain. Nonetheless, some EM phenomena generated in these zones - in particular the so-called "Earthlights" - are very physical and real. The very odd behavior of some Will-O-Wisps/Spook Lights/Ball Lightning has suggested to Vincent Gaddis and others that these may be forms of intelligence, "electro-animals," with purposive behavior. One simplistic explanation of the Fortean occurences in these areas is that contact with these EM entities produces hallucinations, and causes the person to see whatever his belief system is likely to accept - a flying saucer, a hairy ape, a ghost, an angel, a talking tree, or whatever. An alternative explanation, advanced by Paul Devereux, is that these energy-balls are subject to psychokinetic molding, into whatever we want to see.

www.fiu.edu...

Actualy its much more logical that about 95% of true Unexplained UFOs are black projects not ETs. Pluss with the advancements in black world tech in the past 60 years we've become very good at keeping ETs out of our airspace.

Originally posted by Osyris
Actualy its much more logical that about 95% of true Unexplained UFOs are black projects not ETs. Pluss with the advancements in black world tech in the past 60 years we've become very good at keeping ETs out of our airspace.

And with some ET technology possibly thousands or even millions of years in advance of Earthly tech, even "black tech", we'd be powerless if the ETs really wanted to be here.

Personally, I think the aliens, with a few rare exceptions, keep away from Earth. It's the slum planet of the galaxy. There's nothing here they want.

Sadly i think we will never know the "truth" on the subject of UFO's. In the 40's/50's the US government legitimently investigated the UFO phenomenon and and for what eva reason decided from that point on to hide/deny there findings.

the truth is in here it just doesn't get any more credible than this folks.

[edit on 22-10-2007 by ready4whatever]

Originally posted by Jadette
Clearly I haven't some Grand Mal theory worked out, but there's something here that seems right to me, moreso than thinking that in all of the infinite universe other people are traveling here to scare farmers.

That's both funny and profound at the same time.

Originally posted by Jadette
I started looking into this, to see if anyone else has thought of this, and of course I found that this isn't any new idea. But that makes it no less intriguing to me.

Thinking outside the box... gee what a concept.

Excellent post, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

reply to post by ready4whatever


Perhaps they got a clue to the truth
found in this pdf download book.

This would be too advanced but its available.

Originally posted by IAmTetsuo
There's nothing here they want.

Either that or the word is out and the whole Galaxy knows Earth girls are easy.

reply to post by helium3


I believe that we are vicious bumbling barbarians (look at the muslims' viciousness. The end of civilization over here would bring back our own savage bent (especially the best fighters on Earth: the Celt/Saxon cross) real quick). We may think highly of own technology but we don't have the gray matter to understand nor replicate those craft. Remember, from witness account, was it John Lear who said it looked like the motivating force of the craft entailed a telepathic union between the craft and the giant-cabbage brained ET. The dumbest ETs probably have I.Q.s ten times or more of Einstein.

Originally posted by humanunnaki
The dumbest ETs probably have I.Q.s ten times or more of Einstein.

Well, I like to give old humanity a little more credit. We've done pretty well for ourselves, considering our inherent limitations. We're clever, that's for sure, and in a pretty short time we've invented cars and vaccines and computers. Not bad.

And I wouldn't be too quick to assume that aliens are all super-geniuses, either. Maybe they have a knack for interacting with machinery, possibly as a result of bionic or genetic manipulation, but I've never heard that they were tremendously great musicians or artists. So maybe they're more like robots that do one thing well but don't really have any flair or joie de vivre.

There are a lot of ways of measuring intelligence, and intelligence is not necessarily the most important thing in life. Intelligence is not directly proportional to happiness.

very well stated Nohup

Einstein was a probability expert and science fiction writer.
Albeit great for nuclear physics and A bomb, but also atomic
and electrical physics that is the root of the laser and solid state
electronics. The laser and solid state should be touted as impossible
to discover without Einstein's contributions.

Einstein was given a status job by Planck due to popular demand.
No peer review. He was not part of the Illuminati but was important
to them.

Gravity waves will never pass peer review yet kooks come on
physics forums with all sorts on nonsense. There is just some
things the Illuminati won't do.

Now Tesla knew the same University Physics as the founders of
atomic and electrical physics and developed the modern theories
that were stolen and are now held secret. So basically, Tesla might
be more important to some people, but we don't know about it.

reply to post by KTK


Very good observations, thank you.

Power lines might be some sort of path that can be followed.

If an electrical craft as Tesla might envision, then power would have
to be generated internally. The atmospheric effect of millions of
volts see bottom right picture is perhaps an oval light cloud.

Perhaps levitation as well... physics class never went too high in voltage
with coils involved.

Originally posted by humanunnaki
reply to post by helium3

 

I believe that we are vicious bumbling barbarians (look at the muslims' viciousness. The end of civilization over here would bring back our own savage bent (especially the best fighters on Earth: the Celt/Saxon cross) real quick). We may think highly of own technology but we don't have the gray matter to understand nor replicate those craft. Remember, from witness account, was it John Lear who said it looked like the motivating force of the craft entailed a telepathic union between the craft and the giant-cabbage brained ET. The dumbest ETs probably have I.Q.s ten times or more of Einstein.

I agree on the viciousness part. Human evolution is stuck in a morass of neuroconservatism, and real progress - social and political as well as technological - cannot be made until humanity evolves. I don't mean individuals all repressing their savage instincts and become Zen-like in the same way as the Vulcans on Star Trek. I mean "normal" humans accepting the fact that there are mutants among them who just might be the way of the future. Mutants who have replaced savagery with savantry!

There is no human society that truly values knowledge. Some pretend to do, some grudgingly value it in certain situations, some have a hypocritical love-hate relationship to knowledge. It's not so much the dumbest ETs being smarter than Einstein (though it's probably true), but that ET society has made the quantum leap into being truly knowledge-based, and truly tolerant of their most knowledgeable individuals.

Originally posted by Nohup

Originally posted by humanunnaki
The dumbest ETs probably have I.Q.s ten times or more of Einstein.

Well, I like to give old humanity a little more credit. We've done pretty well for ourselves, considering our inherent limitations. We're clever, that's for sure, and in a pretty short time we've invented cars and vaccines and computers. Not bad.

And how long did it take (say) the Zeta Reticulans to invent cars, vaccines, and computers?

And I wouldn't be too quick to assume that aliens are all super-geniuses, either. Maybe they have a knack for interacting with machinery, possibly as a result of bionic or genetic manipulation, but I've never heard that they were tremendously great musicians or artists. So maybe they're more like robots that do one thing well but don't really have any flair or joie de vivre.

Does anyone have a genuine example of alien art or music?

If you are saying that ETs are autistic by human standards, that may well be true. Maybe art, music, poetry, and philosophy can have only a minor role in a mighty interplanetary civilization. As for Earth art, some of it is truly impressive. But never forget the term "starving artist" either.

Hi

From what I´ve seen there are both alien UFO´s and terrestrial ones. John Lear has talked about black projects and the fact that there are craft that can do things that seem to be impossible, it is naive to think that the F-117 or the B2 bomber are as advanced as it gets.

On the other hand there are plenty of sightings of craft that cannot possibly be terrestrial, I have not seen so many of them on anglo-speaking sites, but if you search around for Spanish and French websites you will be able to see pictures and read accounts of things that are out of this planet.

As far as giving a percentage, I really don´t know.

Carry on

Camilo