Do you honesty believe UFO's are ET craft 100% ?

I have seen a couple of UFOs, therefore I have no doubt that they exist.
However, I treat the ET explanation as a mere possibility. The UFOs I have seen could have been countless other things.

One thing that I find interesting is the way that UFO descriptions have changed over the years. In the 1950s most of the UFOs were described as saucer shaped. Things began to change. In the 1990s many UFO reports concerned "flying triangles".

In fact, people rarely talk of "flying saucers", it's more about "UFOs" these days - which can describe practically anything unidentified in the sky. Where have all the saucers gone?

It's almost as if the UFOs have advanced as we have advanced. Now, why would that be? Perhaps the UFOs are actually ours? Think about a plane from the 1950s... compare that to a F-117 for example.

I hear you JH80

I've observed the apparent evolution of the UFOs myself from the saucers and cigars to the current variety. The only personal sighting was a massive black triangular object (in the 80s) that defied any explanation in terms of known technology. I've been around since before the 50s so I've seen quite a shift in the types of object reported too.

But as for ET craft I'm still on the fence there so definitely not 100% till one lands in the backyard and they drop in for a BBQ

Yes I do, and the first sightings occured around 1909 when the US calvary was chasing some bandits and chased them to some cave, after they killed the bandits they witnessed these ET crafts there with shock and called them "horse shoe crafts" and the greys they saw were called grey demons. By the 1930's well 1936 to be precise the US knew pretty much who they were all dealing with.

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Depends on how you really want to think about this.

The Technology is all there's.

I would say that 99% of the ships are not our's the last 1% is us and them/us using their's.

No doubt we have produced some interesting craft but I'll even go as far as to bet my life and say our's can't do what thier's can.

Originally posted by JH80

It's almost as if the UFOs have advanced as we have advanced. Now, why would that be? Perhaps the UFOs are actually ours?

This is certainly a possibility (and I believe in a lot of sightings this is indeed the case) however if some UFOs are indeed of extraterrestial origin is it not plausible that just as our aerospace technology continues to evolve and the shape and specifications of our vehicles changes accordingly so too would the technology of our ET visitors?

I think we have a tendancy to assume that their technology is the zenith of what is technically possible and therefore has stopped evolving, however it may be that they are only a few centuries ahead of us and still have much to learn and correspondingly their designs continue to change as a result of new scientific breakthroughs.

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Hi Ready4WhatEver,
Do you have a source for that story?

Of course I don't.

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object

It's just many of these are so unearthly that it seems to be the only logical explanation for many of them.

That, or they are photoshops.

Originally posted by helium3
Im just curious to know if all you guys believe 100% that UFO's are ET craft piloted by aliens?

I am guessing but here is my opinion as a believer...

90-98% of UFO sightings are natural phenomena, black ops man made craft, other objects such as chinese lanterns etc. Insert mundane explanation of your choice here > <

These, I'm not interested in. It's the remainder that I would like to see progress in terms of the acceptance of the possibility that SOME are ET craft and a resultant mindset to study, catalogue and research to try and establish that this is indeed a phenomena worthy of scientific mainstream study that excludes the scorn and ridicule that is currently associated with the field.

I'd wager that the majority of UFO's we see are actually ours, and the ET ships are cloaked and much more advanced.

Do you honesty believe UFO's are ET craft 100%

you said the word "Believe" 100% so.......

Some people "believe 100% that knomes are real beings.


But I know what you meant.

and I would have to say yes I Beleive 100% that some of the U.F.O's observed are and were of ET origin and intelligently controlled.

why?

It was aug 2005, I had been decorationg my bedroom, and had the curtains taken off,

I called it a day because it was gettin late, I set my bed up facing the massive window I have n climbed in bed.

I lay there for 10 mins looking out and up at the dark blanket sky when somthing apperied from the right hand side of the window,

rough estamate that I can give is it was 500-800 ft in the air and maybe the same distance away from me, I cant work the size out but I'd say it could have been the size of a large van upto the size of a jumbo jet.

apperace was eliptical/ but quite stubby as in not long and flat. more stubby than a saucer.

the whole object was self luminent, no lights just self luminent all over with a haze around it, but never changing it was constant.

movement speed on average was around 2x faster as a plane at low altitude.

but not constant speed , slighty eratic an not ficed trajectory ,it was ajusting up and down maybe 30-40 ft every second or two.

it came 75 percent across from the right of my field of vision, and stopped DEAD behind a low cloud. and stayed there for approx 20 seconds.

at around 10-15 seconds it was still another appeired from the right, at a much higher speed towards the first object, untill also behind the same cloud and both out of view, untill another 10 seconds and the both carried on there same trajectory leftwards slowl but always gaining speed , untill they wer so fast they got small really fast, and soon disaperied into the leftwards horizon.



well thats the best description I can give of it. as I was decorating non of my cams docking stations were set up and both my video and digicam were FLAT!

woiuld of been a cool vidio but , thats life.



so after witnassing that and the intellijent behavoir of them,,

I beleive 100% that they were intelligent ET controlled objects.

that dosent make it so.

but I "Beleive" 100% that that is what they were. and to myself acknolwages that natural phenomenom would be impossible for what I saw.



100% without a doubt in my mind. so "some" of the Videod/photographed UFO's might be of the same origon, because I can't be the only person in the world to have witnesses these in all there glory.


cheers for readin that too.

Well I think UFOs are powered electrically and exhibit a nature and response
that is explained by such phenomena as one shown and developed and
hinted at by Tesla.

Would Tesla recognize the UFO as his design?
Tesla never having seen a UFO or the FOO over Germany... well perhaps
Tesla did read about the FOO in the German papers he had delivered.
OK, lets say Tesla heard about the FOO and realized his electrical flying craft
was built and was going to make an announcement to get back his
stolen rights.. and was killed in 1943... I think so...thats what happened.

See Man Made UFOs 1945 to 1995 for examples of uncensored news reports
at the closing days of WWII.

Any questions on how it flies on electricity I will try to explain the
conspiracy theory as best I can.

So I honesty believe that "UFO's are ET craft" is a 100% secret govenment
cover for stolen Tesla designs.

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Yes, the saucer was mostly one big plasma motor.... enveloping the whole
craft in a ball of light. The FOO or the saucer are examples.

The triangle still has one big center motor but has three extra that
give off light mostly due to interference with the center thruster
which may remain dim.

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There is no 100% in any phenomena as far as science and this reality. A definition of Alien/ET need be stated first anyway, but such an accurate definition will only define the askers knowledge and the limits of understanding.

"ET" , or Extraterrestrial can be defined as many things. Inanimate rock from another world, biological entity from virus-like or bacteria or the India fall of "Red Rain" all the way to superior intelligent biological, sentient cyborg or robotics and then energetic organisms and spirit-like beings.

So, no for me. I believe personally that many are extraterrestrial craft in our atmosphere and above it, but I also believe that there are other "things" that might actually be terrestrial but alternate dimensions and similar that exist just out of our frequency of resonance that sometimes intrude into ours due to geomagnetic or electromagnetic fluctuations and other dimensional openings both natural and elicited, as sometimes beings that can control these effects transit into our resonance (world).

Look up, look down, look within and without. Just LOOK! Life is everywhere in this universe.

ZG

I don't see where there has been any conclusive evidence presented that these UFO things are ET ships. That they're either ET, or "ships."

They might be, but then again they might be a lot of things. Since ET aliens remain unproven, saying that UFOs are ET ships is every bit as valid as saying they're leprechaun cars. Using an unknown to "explain" an unknown.

Most of the things people see are misidentifications of human aircraft. Some are figments of wonky perceptions. Some are hoaxes. The number of real, honest to goodness experienced by people UFOs is incredibly tiny. I would say on the order of maybe a half dozen a year in the entire world, if that.

The continuing lack of researchable, testable physical evidence suggests that these UFOs represent something that is not only unknown, but perhaps unknowable by us, given the limitations of our own perceptions and intelligence. It's a puzzler.

Even when the so-called "aliens" themselves tell their abductee/contactees that they're ETs from other planets, why should we believe them? The aliens, that is. These aliens could be big fat liars, among other things. So I don't know of any good evidence that would indicate these things are ET ships.

Two Words: Mind Control

Ever hear of it.

Consider it done with lots of tax dollar funding to prosper the ET possibility
with Carl Sagan and others.

Why. Just so you get off the Air Force and government backs about what
the UFO is.

Why. The UFO flier is man made from man's engineering ideas and is
Top Secret, so they can't tell and would rather promote and critize the
ET and UFO all at the same time, confusion is their best cover.

As I can see form the posts on any forum.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Why. The UFO flier is man made from man's engineering ideas and is
Top Secret, so they can't tell and would rather promote and critize the
ET and UFO all at the same time, confusion is their best cover.

I would say that some UFOs are certainly secret human aircraft, however, there are some accounts that are just so strange that they go way beyond just a misidentification of some kind of nuts-and-bolts airplane, no matter how advanced.

This strange, ultra-weird stuff -- psychic effects, weird visions, time distortions, etc. -- suggests that there's something happening that doesn't have anything to do with secret aircraft. Something that has to do with our basic perception of reality.

The Jacques Vallee books are good sources for information about these other kinds of encounters, which don't get the same kind of press and attention as the simple flying saucer or triangle sightings.

It's just not as simple as secret technology and human craft. It would be nice if it was.

A UFO is an unidentified flying object. So how are we supposed to answer that question? If it's unidentified it's unidentified. Which means it could be anything. An ET craft I haven't seen yet.

Originally posted by tommyknockers
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Hi Ready4WhatEver,
Do you have a source for that story?

My source is phil schneider, if you havent seen hes last video yet then here is the link he explains it well. And for those of you that dont know he was killed during a police raid and had more than a dozen attempts on hes life that were all documented. Which to me proves that he is credible, and he also has worked on D.U.M.B.S. (deep underground military bases).

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Yes, the saucer was mostly one big plasma motor.... enveloping the whole
craft in a ball of light. The FOO or the saucer are examples.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

The triangle still has one big center motor but has three extra that
give off light mostly due to interference with the center thruster
which may remain dim.

When Tesla speaks, I listen; he is on some other sniff.

Originally posted by helium3
Im just curious to know if all you guys believe 100% that UFO's are ET craft piloted by aliens ?. I know 100% that UFO's are real having seen 2, but i have to admit im not 100% sure that what i witnessed was a ET craft. Maybe im hesatent because one i accept UFO's are in fact ET craft im forced to totally reevaluate everything i have ever know. So my point is do we not believe/accept in Aliens because the proof is simply not there ?, or because we cannot handle the reality we are faced with once we accept it ?.

helium3,

No way! A UFO label refers to any object/phenomenon observed in our atmosphere that appears to fly, hover or move in any way, yet at first cannot be indentified. Of course most UFOs turn out to be airplanes, birds, clouds (including swamp gas!!!), bright planets and stars, the ISS and balloons. Roughly a fifth of all UFO sightings (based on Blue Book findings) is "un-known", meaning they defy all earthly explanations, even after scientific analysis.

So, answering your question, I am guessing the greater part of the true "unknowns" are ET craft, some piloted by non-human visitors. The remnant are kept in the air with considerable difficulty by U.S. pilots! Maybe we can also include the Isaaccaret type drones, operated under U.S. control?

smilodon