Second-grader suspended for drawing

Have we lost our collective minds? The woman I am dating grandson just turned 6 (because of his birthday he is in kindergarden even though he is too old for it) is constantly getting into trouble for this sort of thing. He is just being a boy but his teacher apparently has no sense or understanding of the difference between just being a kid and a kid with problems. The other day he got into trouble for touching the glitter on a little girl's jeans.

Give me a break... such an attitude will cause problems, not solve them.

pure insanity.
i just don't get it.
things have changed a lot since i was in school.

i used to skip every damn class and chill in the art department with my favorite teacher.
she was very cool. nobody seemed to mind that i stayed in that same room all day.

i would do charcoal drawings and scratch boards of serious carnage man...
crazy stuff.
know what happened?

she hung quite a few of them in her classroom.

i wanted to be a tattoo artist and she is the only one that ever tried to kick start me in gear.
i never did become one but that is what i wanted and she let me have all the time/suplies i needed to hone my art...

reply to post by watch_the_rocks


It is getting absolutely crazy. My own Son wrote a short story all about some one killing people. (he was in year 3) It was absolutely hilarious but I must admit I was like OMG. I still have it and will bring it out on his 21st!

The principal called me in to discuss it and I said "well, its creativity...what about Quentin Tarantino?" Look at his movies etc. He is an artist! Look at the bloody news!! That everyone watches...

Not that my Son watched any of that but yanno? What about the Grand Theft Auto Games and Vice City? Its ok for them to be on sale, available to 15 year olds?? What a huge contradiction.





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I used to draw all the time in class it helped me concentrate, I had good grades & now Im an artist

Don't really have much to add that hasn't already been covered except that the Washington Times needn't be included in anything, ever. It's a moonie newspaper. I'm glad you included related links because I won't give traffic or support to a publication I am vehemently opposed to.

So, the child claimed that he drew a "water pistol"? After drawing a cyclops, mummy and a ghost the last thing on this lad's mind was a water pistol! Desert Eagle more like!

While individuals should be allowed to draw whatever they want (as a professional painter that's what my bread and butter is earnt by), instead of putting his hand up and saying "Yes I drew a gun.... but it's obviously there to shoot the monsters that I foolishly portrayed without thinking of the skateboarders' safety!", the little toe-rag lied!

Water-pistol indeed!

So if every single post in this thread is in defense of the kid and generally upset at the "no tolerance" madness how do these policies get through in the first place? Who is supporting these things and asking their board of ed to institute them? Somebody has to be in favor of this madness otherwise it wouldn't exist.

I'm defending the child's right to draw what he wants (please note that I would not condone or support the said drawings if he were to publish them and inflame public opinion and result in terrible consequences - perhaps leading to the rise of a new Hitler, for example).

However, he's obviously lied about the gun being a "water-pistol". Telling lies is wrong..... very wrong indeed. The sooner this little Baron Munchausen is punished for his soiling of all that is good and true the better!

Needless to say, the punishment for being a barefaced liar would be a separate from the suspension punishment for drawing the gun.

reply to post by watch_the_rocks


the school system's going crazy-------foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child-----it takes time for them to mature--------the school administration is acting more immature than the kids they are suppose to teach--------i hated school with a passion----they used to beat me to make me attend-----i was born at a poor time ? 1947------and i still hate schools that our countries punish the kids with.

Mommy, what did I do wrong??

This action is bound to confuse the kid. I doubt he even understands what he did wrong or why he was suspended. Christ, even *I* have trouble understanding it.

reply to post by DenyAllKnowledge


Lying is a problem now? Any sane person should be expected
to lie when made the target of a PC witchhunt in this terror-fear
driven madhouse. If we dealt with lying when it occurs at the
highest levels of government (imagine that) things would be a
lot calmer, and a picture of a gun would no longer be confused
with a gun.

The NWO's clearly afraid of guns. I don't think that's anything
for them to worry about. People are such robots that they can't
even do a good imitation of wakefulnss while driving. When a
SWAT team of twenty wakes you up at 3:00 AM to search your
house, and all the others on your block, for firearms, you'll know
it's over. Before then , it's business as usual. Afterwards, the
death camps.

On the bright side, one possible solution to our NWO problem
might be a resurrection of the cold war strategem of mutually
assured destruction. When the population gets up to speed on
scalar weapon technology, even a small portion of it, the
Constitution will be restored by default. A succor punch is a
good start, as well as making and distributing a lot of orgonite.
You can't guess how potent this stuff is 'til you've seen it in action.

www.ethericwarriors.com...

The goal is defeating your enemies with mind control, and
interdicting of their mass mind control program on a grass roots
level. Not by arguing, but by undermining its energetic basis using
etheric methods. On the surface it just looks like good
salesmanship, when it's visible at all.

These technologies have been used for years to empower the
NWO, so it's not as if they're ethically out of bounds for our use
in resisting it. Non-predatory and anti-coercive efforts have a
distinct edge in this arena.

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"Liberal" and "conservative" are just labels we put on people, usually
as ad hominem attacks, rather than go through the effort of debating
particular issues.

It seem kind of mean spirited to blame people for being victims of
brainwashing.

Ahhhahahahahahaha
I'm so glad I went to school when Children were allowed to have a degree of free will.

reply to post by The_wand_mirror


This situation is what the psychologists call "crazy making."
The very foundations of reason are assaulted time and time again through conflicting actions of those who are expected to have much more wisdom.
In a country whose very fundamental right to bear arms is paramount to the the intentions of its founders.....it becomes an act of insanity to punish children for such things.
I have observed this hypocrisy in the education system since i was in grade school, and it has grown worse with the passing of the years and the indulgence in social experimentation by govt and schools alike.
These things are above and beyond the mandate of these institutions to engage in.
It is only because of the fragmentation of our community spirit through self indulgance and sloth(both taught in schools today)that the powers that be may get away with such usurpation of personal sovriegnty.
bergle

This is not a new thing.

Back when I was servin' time in school (70s-80s in Western Canada) the educrats were more concerned punishing kids for what they thought, or what feelings they expressed, than what they did (actions). Burn the "crazies" at the stake, or at least sentence them to counselling. Never mind the bratty clean-cut "normal" kids who bullied others, vandalized school property, smoked dope, and the like.

Maybe there's a historical reason why the cost of heresy and blasphemy is higher than that of violent crime. It's not one I understand myself.

Silly question here : has anyone actully seen the drawing? Second/third hand accounts are of no use since you are entirely dependant on the political stance of the re-teller. Now what if the original drawing was of a gun which also showed the teachers head being blown off and pupils grinning and cheering? Is that OK?

Nobody absolutely nobody can make any honest comment without the full facts.

Lets face it - guns are cool.

reply to post by malcr
Interesting that you brought this up.

This morning on the radio out of Houston, TX, this is being discussed.

The drawing is of a boy, labeled with the name of the subjects friend, and another boy holding a gun, labeled with "me". So the boy in the discussion has drawn a picture of himself shooting his friend with a gun.

I'll see if it has been posted some where.

Here it is:



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