UK UFO

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
I'm coming off ornery and I don't mean to be. As you can see by my grammatical errors I need to take a nap. Too bad sleep is for the dead and people not as awesome as me.

Humans. That's it. Humans. Give your species some credit.

Okay, you have me confused with this post. Please don't tell me you are claiming to be non-human...

Oh, wow.

*sigh*

The mind of a conspiracy theorist. Cute.

I'm off to sleep. I am all over the map tonight. I'll stand behind Beachcoma while I'm away. Listen to him. He's this infinite tap of information. I think he actually maybe a higher species. Take notes.

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Awww... shucks. You're embarrassing me

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues


Oh, wow.

*sigh*

The mind of a conspiracy theorist. Cute.

I'm off to sleep. I am all over the map tonight. I'll stand behind Beachcoma while I'm away. Listen to him. He's this infinite tap of information. I think he actually maybe a higher species. Take notes.

Well you're not the only one... I think this cheap budweiser is getting to me...

Sure, our militaries might have these crafts, but how exactly do you know they weren't built and created solely by humans?

Probably because there's no proof of them being created by Aliens? Not to mention flying wing and stealth technology have been around for decades. How can ANYONE come to the conclusion that Aliens built stealth aircraft?

• There is no proof
  
• All historical evidence shows flying wing technology and stealth is nothing new
  
• Stealth flying wings are by no means a exotic design by todays standards, they've been around for decades
  

I have no clue whatsoever as to what the triangular craft people sight, I have no clue what UFOs; that I have witnessed are. But the notion that Stealth flying wings are Alien technology is just incorrect.

[edit on 17/10/07 by JimmyCarterIsSmarter]

Cool, I found a good topic I have been discussing this on another thread which was not exactly named correct. But anyway, as people have probably posted here before there were a number of countries researching Saucer shaped craft (including Canada), after World War II a lot of scientists went missing from Germany along with their projects. All of a sudden a new home is created for researching both Bombs and Avionics 'Area 51'. Soon after it was created the whole Roswell thing came about.

Take a look at history and as someone else posted here craft have been released from Area 51 research at least 20-30 years after their first test flights. Nothing as of yet 'Saucer Shaped' has been released but we know from evidence that these shaped craft were taken on by the American Government after World War II. Maybe this whole releasing of new aircraft - stealth or whatever gives them a cover up for what they are actually doing in Area 51? Based on this data theres a 61 year gap of technology research going on. Area 51 over the past 2 years has expanded extremely (check out Dream Land Resort website for latest Satellite photos).

Next thing is the people who claimed to have worked at Area 51, main being Bob Lazar who claims to have worked in S-4. They all come out with the same story (probably because the government pay them??), out of the god knows how many thousands of people who work there it seems odd that only a select few have come out with these 'similar' stories. Bob Lazar contradicts himself on near enough every interview, first he says they were still 'Reverse Engineering' Alien craft, the next he says on his first days of working there he saw a test flight of a UFO. This comes to question how they would do such a flight if they were still reverse engineering the craft. A week after Bob Lazar's first Interview in Las Vegas he gets video footage (from a distance) of the US Government test flying a UFO moving exactly like reports of UFO's (non conventional to how we know flight).

Make up your own mind but I think something is going on with this, and it seems tat it's not just the American Government which is in on this even tho it is being researched in their territory.

Originally posted by Zemouk
Take a look at history and as someone else posted here craft have been released from Area 51 research at least 20-30 years after their first test flights.

Sorry, thats not true.

The longest one was the F-117, and that was from 1977 to about 1988 in its various guises..

Originally posted by neformore

Originally posted by Zemouk
Take a look at history and as someone else posted here craft have been released from Area 51 research at least 20-30 years after their first test flights.

Sorry, thats not true.

The longest one was the F-117, and that was from 1977 to about 1988 in its various guises..

It wouldn't take 61 years to just make a normal moving plane Stealth with the amount of scientists and workers they have in Area 51... also if they have released new craft in 2005 then they must have something more superior that they are working on. Just seems odd that 100mph UFO shaped craft are seen over USA at the end of World War II and they find them to be German; next minute everything to do with this shaped craft is hidden and stopped by the media and the Government just as Area 51 is set-up.

Just been reading up again about the SR-75 project (nothing new to this forums I know, as I read about it on here years ago), apparently started soon after the SR-71 was made public. Late 70's is what ex area51 employees have said for when it's first test flights were (but who can trust ex employee's?). Claims of Mach7 speed and considering the US Government has not released another plane like the SR-71. The SR-71 was released in 1966. Apparently the SR-75 has been spotted on radar and also in the air. Conspiracy I know because nothing has been released, but just think why would the US Government have built a Mach3.3 plane in 1966 and not made anything faster since? 41 year gap, seems quite odd!

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Actually, the one-piece composite skins on these stealth aircraft are radar proof materials also in addition to the angular deflective designs. Some of these materials where engineered with understanding of so-called "recovered" technology. Col. Philip Corso and others document for these advances, and they coincide with actual design time lines.

ZG

Wheres the UFO. all I see is an aeroplane with nothing said about it.
It looks nothing new to me either, Ive seen aeroplanes like that 10 years ago at least.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues

Originally posted by Diplomat
I don't think the transformers movie has much to do at all with people thinking that military crafts are reverse-engineered from alien technology. People have been saying that for decades...

People have been wrong for decades. Natural propulsion, propeller propulsion, jet propulsion, jet propulsion with a stealth exterior. What's so advanced about that? The wedge design has been around since the 50's too, and even had a stint with propeller motors. It's just boring old earthly physics.

You may think so but they are far beyond what we called "boring old earthly physics" my friend. Take a look at what i saw back in 2003 and see what kind of propulsion systems they are using. Below is the link to the thread i made some time ago trying to find infomation on what i saw that night. There is no dout i my mind that what i saw was a spin off of the B2 as it looked basicly the same but what powered it was vey special indeed.

Link: www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This plane sounds very much like the TR-3B which ex Area-51 workers are claiming to be the UFO based craft. Some photos below of sightings:



This is what a select few co-workers of Area51 claim to be the result of reverse engineering of a 'Space Craft' / UFO found at a crash site... Sounds more like the Roswell story moved on by the US government. Apparently they have made 3 versions of this craft TR-3A/B/C.

Edit: This is what Edgar Fouché said:

One operational TR-3B is
now stationed in Scotland, another in Diego Garcia, and the other TR-3B is
at Papoose. To my knowledge there are only 3 of the 600 feet Operational
Models. I believe there were only two or three 200 feet prototypes built.

Would make sense of the area you were in, as chester is very far north of England / North Wales border.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by Zemouk]

OK.

There is no evidence, whatsoever, that there is a craft called the TR3-B in existence.

The pictures linked in the post above show an artists impression of the 1989 Belgian Triangle UFO, an alleged picture of the actual UFO taken in 1989 and oddly, the same image repeated.

The TR-3B is an internet myth.

Originally posted by neformore
OK.

There is no evidence, whatsoever, that there is a craft called the TR3-B in existence.

The pictures linked in the post above show an artists impression of the 1989 Belgian Triangle UFO, an alleged picture of the actual UFO taken in 1989 and oddly, the same image repeated.

The TR-3B is an internet myth.

The same internet myth that other ex Area 51 workers claim to exist and be the craft every one of them explains as for being made from reverse engineering of alien craft. They said the Stealth Bomber was made from Alien craft technology (as in the metal they used). Bit of a strange recurrence here? Plus the Belgium image was not just an image it was a video and is on YouTube.

Bob Lazar released footage of a craft flying exactly like a UFO a week after his first interview as he claimed to know testing times and filmed the video for more proof of his case. He came out with the same UFO story that America was testing craft based on alien craft. Also Edgar Fouche explained the seen and radar tracked SR-75 along with this new TR-3B information. I'm not saying that these peoples stories are 100% true, but some of what these people say is exactly what the US has done with previous planes released from Area 51. A lot of people claim to have seen the 'Triangle Plane' (not just in America).

Edgar Fouche Site

The SR-71 still holds the World Speed Record for a plane of normal movement; why would America suddenly stop advancing plane speeds in 1966?

Belgium air force even had it on radar and sent planes to intercept it.

I’m going to have to say……humanity got to the technological point sometime in the 60’s where we could go to the moon and back in a few hours, without the aid of alien tech, but we have gotten so advanced, that the public can’t be in the know how, about it, because the government structure we have had for the past 50 years, wood crumble if the new…..sort of old…. technologies got out to the public.

At some point in the 60’s as well, we made contact with aliens, and we then had even greater advances the public wouldn’t have a clue about. The fact is, if the aliens hadn’t come when they did, the government wouldn’t need to cover the advanced tech, because we would have no outside universal problems to destroy our government way of life..

There’s a better explanation through this link…

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In referance to the first Post : I've read something about this craft. Apparently its a design for One of the Latest UCAV's. Very Cool Stuff.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by Bradenbeattie]

Originally posted by andre18
I’m going to have to say……humanity got to the technological point sometime in the 60’s where we could go to the moon and back in a few hours, without the aid of alien tech, but we have gotten so advanced, that the public can’t be in the know how, about it, because the government structure we have had for the past 50 years, wood crumble if the new…..sort of old…. technologies got out to the public.

At some point in the 60’s as well, we made contact with aliens, and we then had even greater advances the public wouldn’t have a clue about. The fact is, if the aliens hadn’t come when they did, the government wouldn’t need to cover the advanced tech, because we would have no outside universal problems to destroy our government way of life..

There’s a better explanation through this link…

youtube.com...

youtube.com...

youtube.com...

I personally don't believe that the US has been in contact with Aliens for technology, it's just a story the government want everyone to believe that's been going on since 1945. Also if we have made contact why are organisations like SETI still trying to make contact with Aliens and spending millions on amplifying signals?

Also the main sponser of SETI is guess who?... NASA.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by Zemouk]

Maybe UFO's are really secret black military projects using anti gravity! I bet no one thought of THAT!

Originally posted by Zemouk


I personally don't believe that the US has been in contact with Aliens for technology, it's just a story the government want everyone to believe that's been going on since 1945.

To me that doesn’t make sense, because they keep saying it never happened, if they wonted people to believe such a thing, they wouldn’t say it wasn’t happening

Also if we have made contact why are organisations like SETI still trying to make contact with Aliens and spending millions on amplifying signals?

I’ve read about how seti has actually found plenty of et signals, it’s just that the government wont let them tell the public. “and spending millions on amplifying signals” they have to keep the public thinking we are still searching for them, if they stop, then it may seem that we’ve already found a signal.

Also the main sponser of SETI is guess who?... NASA.

I’ve also read plenty on how NASA is corrupt, and already knows about the ET’s…



NASA's Deceptions Pt.1
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[edit on 19-10-2007 by andre18]