Why didn't this start WWIII

Originally posted by Jovi1
To say not all Jews reject Christ really means little. The vast majority of them do in fact reject Jesus do they not? hence according to your own logic makes them no better than animals in your eyes does it not? I am not the one disparaging an entire group of people on the basis of their religous beliefs you are, I am not the one advocating a World War to force people of another belief to force them to mine you are, over a building no less. And again Isreal may be entitled to the land on the basis of their religon, but most certainly do not use their religon in regards to how the strangers in their land should be treated so they are as much to blame for their own problems as anyone else.

[edit on 20-10-2007 by Jovi1]

Amazing yet wrong! A good percentage of Jew do follow Christ. However, those that do not are of the chosen people and will have a chance to change before the lake of fire comes to them. There is no WAR in this post to FORCE any religion on anyone. Only to punish those who defile holy places. Israel is entitled to the land because GOD gave it to them. Are you aware there is a good number of NON-jews and arabs in the Israeli government? That many jews, gentiles, and arabs have co-existed for years in Judea!

Yet, it is the homocide bombing Palatrash that murder innocents in Israel.
(note....Palatrash is derived from the entire region throwing away the Palestinians. They were welcome in Israel until they kept blowing themselves up!!!!!!

Did you go to public school?

No i didn't but it is quite obvious you were homeschooled and poorly i might add. You know obviously nothing about being a Jew or Judaism in general to follow Christ to a Jew is a kin to commiting heresy. Yes currently out of a Parliment of one hundred and twenty members twelve are Arab. The title of this thread states clearly what your intention is war on Islam, so if your war isn't about conversion then it must be about extermination, way to go. All you have to do is look at your location and mood to easily tell you are full of hate and anger. And just what exactly makes it Holy? is it because some kids placental fluid dripped on the ground as he was being born. I know why don't we just make the whole region holy because we can't pin down exactly where Jesus may or may not have stubbed his toe then we can run out and punish all of them for defiling the Holy Land. Until you can produce proof other than the Jewish BELIEF that God gave them that land then the Palastinians are just as much entitled to it. Their religous beliefs no matter how misguided I or anyone else feel they are, are no less valid than yours.

[edit on 10/21/2007 by Jovi1]

Originally posted by astmonster
Yet, it is the homocide bombing

clear kool-aid drinking right here.
ANY bombing is a homicide bombing!

Palatrash that murder innocents in Israel.

...again with the ethnic slur
and again with the ignorance.
more palestinian civilians have been killed by israeli military forces than israeli civilians killed by all suicide bombings and related attacks from palestinians

the palestinian people are the ones who need to be crying out about the murdering of innocent civilians, not the israelis

Did you go to public school?

listen, public school is probably a much better experience to make a person grow than something like home school...which is what seems to be your educational background.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
listen, public school is probably a much better experience to make a person grow than something like home school...which is what seems to be your educational background.

Private School was the best. Public teachers were stupid even in fred flintstone days.

You stated more palatrash have been killed by Israeli than Israeli by palatrash. Prove it..............provide data from a credible source.

Oh, never liked koolaid...................

Again, palatrash is not a "slur" it is a fact, they have been swept around by everyone since 1948. With all the mighty Arab powers around ask "why"? Lebonon treated them so well as did Jordan.

Originally posted by astmonster
You stated more palatrash have been killed by Israeli than Israeli by palatrash. Prove it..............provide data from a credible source.

stop using that slur, seriously

i need to provide data? israel openly admits it themselves, but here's the data

ok, here's one from the BBC news service

Israeli security forces killed 660 Palestinians in 2006 - three times more than in 2005, according to an Israeli human rights group.

B'Tselem, which monitors human rights in the occupied territories, said the figure included 141 children.

At least 322 had taken no part in hostile acts, the group said.

In the same period, the number of deadly Palestinian attacks on Israelis has fallen - 23 Israelis were killed in 2006 compared with 50 last year.

news.bbc.co.uk...

hmm...23 israelis killed in 06..
660 palestinians... 322 that hadn't taken part in any hostile acts and 141 children...

Oh, never liked koolaid...................

then i wonder why you drink so much of it

Again, palatrash is not a "slur" it is a fact, they have been swept around by everyone since 1948. With all the mighty Arab powers around ask "why"? Lebonon treated them so well as did Jordan.

...no, it's a slur. it's a label you made up to dehumanize a group of oppressed people

This discussion isn't about homeschooing vs. public schools. Please stay on topic and avoid the use of unnecessary ethenic slurs. It's perfectly fine for you to dislike one group or another, but keep it civil please.

Originally posted by Jovi1
No i didn't but it is quite obvious you were homeschooled and poorly i might add. You know obviously nothing about being a Jew or Judaism in general to follow Christ to a Jew is a kin to commiting heresy.

As with all "heresies," those labeled "heretics" are 90% of the time the ones who are closest to the truth. Heresy is a term that major world religions came up with in an effort to keep people in the dark.. "Oh if you think for yourself, you're a heretic. Only if you follow the canon are you obtainers of the truth." Jovi, let them think it's heresy if they want.The truth is still the truth.



[edit on 22-10-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

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Wow thanks for the data, I am impressed, the Israeli's have killed better than 10 to 1 for every Israeli death. Now that is impresssive!

However. the group you site is like "moveon.org". or AirAmerica or CNN. How about UN data?

Religion as we've been taught is a simple distraction. Something to way our attention away from what is actually happening.

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
Religion as we've been taught is a simple distraction. Something to way our attention away from what is actually happening.

Most "religion" as taught today is a distraction. However, faith in GOD and his son Jesus is not religion, it is TRUTH and salvation from the evil on this planet. The same evil that allows palestinians to defile a holy place with imunity yet a simple cartoon of a false prophet causes riots and death.

Faith is not a religion, it is knowing the truth in your heart.

Originally posted by astmonster
reply to post by madnessinmysoul

 

Wow thanks for the data, I am impressed, the Israeli's have killed better than 10 to 1 for every Israeli death. Now that is impresssive!

yeah, especially when it comes to civilians!
honestly, that statement disgusts me

However. the group you site is like "moveon.org". or AirAmerica or CNN. How about UN data?

no..they are an unbiased source. do i really need to refer to UN data when the UN has repeatedly sanctioned israeli for it's actions?

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


I think you misunderstood the meaning here in so much as I was illustrating that for Jew to accept Christ goes against what it is that religon in particular believes, for a Jew to accept Christ is to revert to polytheisim pure and simple, it would be considered a step back for them.

And no faith in God and Jesus is your Truth and all one needs to do is look at your tirade on here and tell it is yet a Truth you have not accepted otherwise you would not be justifing the slaughter of anyone for locking themselves in a church. The truly evil people in this world are the ones like you that demand for others to fight wars for your faith, this is not what Christ would have taught and you should know that. And just how do you think you would respond if one day someone showed up on your front door and told you that you had to give up your home because God said it belonged to these other people instead, i doubt you would just give it up.

[edit on 10/24/2007 by Jovi1]

Originally posted by Jovi1
And no faith in God and Jesus is your Truth and all one needs to do is look at your tirade on here and tell it is yet a Truth you have not accepted otherwise you would not be justifing the slaughter of anyone for locking themselves in a church. The truly evil people in this world are the ones like you that demand for others to fight wars for your faith, this is not what Christ would have taught and you should know that. And just how do you think you would respond if one day someone showed up on your front door and told you that you had to give up your home because God said it belonged to these other people instead, i doubt you would just give it up.

[edit on 10/24/2007 by Jovi1]

How many times does the Lord instruct the Israeli's to kill those who defy the law? God instructions to Joshua to destroy entire cities of every living thing....

When Jesus drove out the moneychangers he did it with a whip! He overturned tables and was ANGRY.

Jesus taught love thy neighbor but not passive restraint of law breakers. The "law of moses" is clear and Christ did not change it.

Do you really think you are not to defend your home and family from those who would destroy them? Do you really think God does not want you to defend HIS holy places from heathens?

When Christ was taken by the romans and peter drew his sword and cut of an ear, Jesus said "now is not the time" he didn't say "never draw your sword again".

Was the defeat of Hitler going to happen by "passive" means? No "God fearing" and "just men" rose up and destroyed evil.

When Christ does return to this planet it is with a "SWORD".

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


You can't do it can you.............your data is BS as is your source. How about we look at overall data of the murder of innocent Israeli's since 1948 vs what has been done to the "palestinians" (ouch that hurt Byrd) in the same time by Israel...................