High Alert Operation Topoff Warnings For Oct 16, 2007

Originally posted by eagle32
The best thing you can do is start enjoying life instead of wasting it crawling round like scared little puppies.
If something happens it happens, Dont be a victim of maybe's and go for a walk.
If you have kids then do what I did today, take them out somewhere, even if its a walk around with no destination, just go, a park maybe, kick a damn ball about.
Stop reading crap made up by schoolkids.

Wow If I was the messiah (if there is such a thing) Id be angry at you people for wasting time and watching life pass you by before I even turn my attention to any terrorists.

I didn't believe this was anything.However many people have your mindset about important issues and choose to ignore them.

It is very possible to still enjoy life and still do the simple stuff,and also put give some well needed attention to important issues..Again by important issue I'm not talking about this whole sittuation.

fearmongering at its worst..

those involved with TopOff IV know that is simply an excercise... nothing more nothing less...



move on, there is nothing to see here.


Trust me, I know

This is just another exercise.

There was one in Northern California (in the East Bay) last month. There were many Govt agencies (incl Military) it was a 50 hour event.

Its called training!!

I believe that one was called Urban Defense.

It's also a way to showcase new technologies (IE The reason I know about it).

The primary goal of all TOPOFF exercises is to promote unity of effort. These exercises improve the capability of government officials and agencies, both within the U.S. and abroad, to provide an effective, coordinated, strategic response to all aspects of a WMD attack.

Originally posted by ATruGod
This is just another exercise.

There was one in Northern California (in the East Bay) last month. There were many Govt agencies (incl Military) it was a 50 hour event.

Its called training!!

I believe that one was called Urban Defense.

It's also a way to showcase new technologies (IE The reason I know about it).

Just to add to ATruGod's point above, here is a little light reading for those who havent researched/realised there has been a 1,2 and 3 before TopOff4 (Top officials Drill #4) No offence to those that have.

Source

The first TOPOFF was held in May 2000 in Denver, Colorado and Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Denver participants faced a simulated chemical attack, while New Hampshire participants were confronted with a biological attack.

TOPOFF 2, conducted in May 2003, included over 8,000 participants in Seattle, Washington and Chicago, Illinois and involved significant participation by the Canadian Government.

TOPOFF 3, held April 4-8, 2005 and sponsored by DHS's Directorate for Preparedness, was the most comprehensive terrorism response exercise ever conducted in the United States, simulating biological attacks in New Jersey and chemical attacks in Connecticut. It involved over 20,000 participants representing more than 250 federal, state, and local agencies; private businesses; volunteer groups; and international organizations.

That does'nt mean that nothing is going to happen during this exercise, these could be genuine counter terrorism leads which are being addressed.

Would our gov's want to cause panic accross half the country by telling us all what realy goes on?

Exercise Vigilant Shield 08 is running in conjunction with TopOff4 as part of the national level exercise 1-08 along with other exercises around the world in Australia, United Kingdom and the teritory of Guam between 15th-20th/10/2007

Objectives and a whole lot more HERE

reply to post by St Udio


Sorry I don't work for the government but because the way you are asking for particular semantics in the wording makes me wonder if you do?

Look on this document let the viewer decide. For the record I felt something akin to being sick to my stomach and something was very wrong on Sep 10th, 2001. - throughout the evening.) The next day my gut feeling was well confirmed.

Last night I felt nothing of the sort. I honestly do not believe that anything was going to happen, but the real point is raising awareness. People steal, rape and loot because they THINK they can get away with it - its no different for the government and its crooked members. If their caught and watched chances are they will not try it.

I would happily look like a fool 1000 times than be proved right once - especially about something like that .

Nope...nada......nothing..........all is quiet...............still waiting.............AND............nope.... I am amazed that a 7th floor CIA dir took a VACATION! Holy smokes that is a sure sign that the end is near. Good catch on the document story, cool read even if it was a fake.

They just showed a minute and a half piece on the news from Phoenix. Didn't really say much. Showed some footage from Portland and some guy saying how its an exercise for authorities to communicate better or some crap. Nothing else, all is quiet or is it???

What will tomorrow bring and what will they tell us about it. Probably nothing but I'll keep an eye open.
Damb news on TV is worthless.

Nuff said

[edit on 17-10-2007 by pweagle]

Ya its just a Drill a test, what are you all afraid of? I'm not afraid of this gov, i mean c'mon that is what they want you to do shake in your pants, and be scared, becouse there " Might" be a bunch of these drills allover the world? becouse there might be some terrorist. I'm sure, that they don't have time, to test in all the cities, in this life time.

I'd be scared if it was some kind of natural disaster, thats going to wipe out civilizations, But this new world order deal will never happen the gov is dreaming. It's like a dream they have..they wish..but i highly doubt it will ever happen.

[edit on 17-10-2007 by 1111111111111]

only about an hour and 20 min here

reply to post by LogansRun


No no, I was referring to the supposed terror drills that happened on 9/11 and 7/7.

Has there ever been anything that can back that up? I hear people reference it but I have NEVER seen a legitimate source collaborate the story.

Just outside Montreal there's a nearby army base. Oddly almost daily there have been Huey fly overs going on a month now.Something that rarely happens around here.

[edit on 17-10-2007 by dnlxv]

reply to post by dnlxv


I live in Montreal and have noticed more military planes than usual. I live in TMR so I always hear fly overs for planes landing at Dorval airport, but the military planes are WAY louder. They make my whole room shake.

Oh Well,

October 16th has come and gone. What was all this about????

It seems another ATS thread has gone to the dogs. I'm still waiting for something to happen. This has been a bust.

You guys got any warnings for holloween? Will we still be here?

Let me know so I can stop paying the bills.

thanks.

I believe one of the active regiments on tour in Afghanistan is a Montreal regiment (i know its French). Perhaps its equipment and other supplies, are either going to, or getting prepped for Afghanistan.

OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wait... what? ..This was suppose to happen on the 16th?

Where's that damn edit button...

[edit on 20-10-2007 by porschedrifter]

Originally posted by ProfTom
Oh Well,

October 16th has come and gone. What was all this about????

It seems another ATS thread has gone to the dogs. I'm still waiting for something to happen. This has been a bust.

You guys got any warnings for holloween? Will we still be here?

Let me know so I can stop paying the bills.

thanks.

LOL.

I haven't read anything for Halloween....but Ive read lots on something going down in 2012 Or is it 2009? Wait, I think I read 2011?

:so confused:

I just wanted to make a short post to share what I learned last week about these exercises.

I have it on good authority from an individual in one of the acronyms that the exercises that were to take place last week will actually take place this week. Inaccurate dates were leaked to the press, so these exercises wouldn't be compromised (and I'm sure for other reasons...).

Also, the number of U.S. cities will be much larger than the two indicated in the releases. There will be many more cities, and these exercises will be taking place in many countries around the world. My sense was, just as U.S. city names were deliberately left out, that many other countries not indicated may be involved as well. The feeling I got was that these exercises would be massive. We will see...

Another individual in the Northern Virginia area also shared with me that at some point last week that he saw a train heading from the Chantilly, VA area toward Washington, DC, carrying desert camouflaged military Humvees. What struck me is that he said it seemed like ten minutes had passed before the train finally disappeared. He said there were an unbelievable number of Humvees on this train.

So my question regarding this incident alone would be, why are they shipping so many Humvees the week OF the exercises and not before? Connecting the dots, I'd say that this supports what my contact said, and that the exercises will also take place in or around Washington, DC this week.

But offering my two cents on whether or not Martial Law will be imposed, or whether or not there will be a 9-11 scale attack somewhere, I have to say that I don't believe either will occur. It's easy to become alarmed, seeing the direction this administration has been headed thus far, but I don't honestly feel we are in danger of either.

My contact had advised previously on the subject of detainment camps and Martial Law. It is totally possible that I was deliberately mislead, or that this person on the inside wasn't "in the loop", but the sentiment was that I painted a fairly good picture with the Halliburton camps, etc., but that it just wasn't possible. The comment was that this country is too well armed. Any attempt at Martial Law would cause the country to implode. This is coming from inside this acronym.

The comment about the picture I painted being well constructed, but untrue was sort of a wake up call to me. It is possible to be a really good puzzle maker - putting certain pieces together, but sometimes our puzzles just won't come into contact with reality.

I'm not saying this isn't a reckless administration, whose criminal and unethical actions aren't surprising and concerning - and for which they should be held accountable. What I AM saying is that extending the ideologies and motivations of those few "crazies" at the top all the way down through the ranks at every level to effect something like Martial Law without a clear reason or need for doing so is to sacrifice reason on the altar of paranoia (I like poetic imagery haha).

To me, for 9-11 conspiracy theorists, Martial Law should have been effected then; but it wasn't. With this government's tendency to avoid alarming the public unnecessarily (I'm removing George and his cronies, Chertoff, Cheney, etc. - actually this administration from the equation), I can't see how they would have had this philosophy of keeping the public calm, only to toss it out the window; especially, by an act presumably perpetrated by this same government.

If several dirty bombs go off at different locations - and we would need to see at least three different major cities affected, there would still be no need to enact Martial Law. What you have, plain and simple, are several devices spreading a contaminant. The affected areas would be cleared, locked down, neutralized, and an investigation would ensue. You don't effect Martial Law and send the country into a police state.

Take a look at the horrifying and absolutely devastating effects that a large-scale dirty bomb can render on a helpless populace, living within 3 1/2 miles of this devastating devastation,

Radioactive uranium, plutonium, cesium and cobalt emit high energy ionizing radiations. High energy radiations, such as x-ray/gamma-ray, electrons, protons and neutrons emitted by radioactive materials can produce cancer.

SOURCE

My dear Lord, the folks living within 3 1/2 miles of this detonated bomb, if wind conditions are favorable, and they aren't able to quickly get indoors, suffer an unimaginably slow, possible, development of cancer, for which their only hope - if they get cancer, is a program of about six treatments, one every three to four weeks, of Chemotherapy, or a schedule of Radiotherapy. My God the HORROR!!

Is there no hope for these poor folks, contaminated with this material?

Radioactive dust can be washed off the skin and contaminated clothing should be discarded to reduce external exposure...

TIME: Most radioactivity loses its strength fairly quickly. Limiting the time spent near the source will reduce the amount of exposure.

SOURCE

Our lord is a merciful lord. If you think I'm mitigating the effects of a dirty bomb, and you think my sources are off the mark, take a look at the effects of the Chernobyl incident,

The accident destroyed the Chernobyl-4 reactor and killed 30 people, including 28 from radiation exposure.

A further 209 on site and involved with the clean-up were treated for acute radiation poisoning and among these, 134 cases were confirmed (all of whom apparently recovered).

Nevertheless 19 of these subsequently died from effects attributable to the accident. Nobody off-site suffered from acute radiation effects.

SOURCE

Anyway, here are a couple of sites with detonation maps to give you an idea of worst case contamination scenarios, given prime wind conditions, etc:

Site 1, Site 2, and Site 3

If you still maintain that if we see several dirty bombs that the president will make the call he's been ostensibly waiting to make (i.e., declare Martial Law), then I will reiterate what this individual on the inside stated, and that is that this country would implode. This administration and everyone involved would effectively dismantle the structure that provides these individuals with their power.

Not that there aren't insane individuals at the top of this administration drooling at the prospect of a police state - it's just that their insane utopia and our reality will not meet. Virtually every sane member of Bush's staff has distanced themselves from him, or left office for various honorable reasons. And virtually everyone else insane enough to ride that train has resigned, has been forced to resign, has been indicted for one reason or another, or clearly should be.

The above doesn't paint a picture of cohesion and unity within the administration; it really is a case of the Madness of King George...Or will it be a case of Julius Caesar?